If only the Bengals could play defense and run the ball

[HAPPYJAQ]

All I have to say is, I absolutely LOVE the way that all of the "NFL analysts" and pundits have already counted the Bengals out for this game. This team has responded to adversity all season, especially in these types of situations. It's hard to believe that people are putting so much stock in last week's game, in a game in which the Bengals managed as if it were preseason. People who think that Marvin will not be prepared for Rex, his running game, and his defense, are without question drunk. We've seen this team for years, albeit in different colors.

That said, I'll be shocked if the Bengals lose against the Jets tomorrow.

Call me crazy, but I'm thinking Ravens vs. Bengals (at home), for the AFC Championship.

[Ickey44]

Yes I did: that "point" is an out-and-out lie. It's complete BS. 60,000+ people showed up every week to root for their team -- and that was without any threat of a blackout.

Last I recall, we only sold out two games this year without a local company coming in to get the last 1500 to 2000 tickets. So yeah, the Steelers game and Chiefs game (IIRC) sold out without help. Every other home game had a black out threat.

That being said, I don't think it has anything to do with the fans not supporting their team. I think it's more to do with the economy and the outrageous cost of going to a game now.

[HairOnFire]

Lance ignores them, and you ignore them, in favor of a handful of message board posters and one idiot who called his show before the season.

Well, to be perfectly fair, all you're doing is ignoring a different group of people. For example, the type of fan who is all too common on fansites like this very messageboard. In fact, aren't you the very same poster who complained loudly about how so many threads were being disrupted by negative fans you immediately branded as "haters"?

And are you really going to pretend this franchise dosn't have a small army of fugtarded revolutionaries who claim winning a championship would do nothing to to change their negativity?

That hardly sounds like just one idiot caller to me.

Of course the Bengals have fine fans, including me, and on occasion...you. But that said, here you are proclaiming Bengal fans aren't the worst in the entire NFL while at the exact same time demanding your right to boo the home team during a playoff game.

[HairOnFire]

That being said, I don't think it has anything to do with the fans not supporting their team. I think it's more to do with the economy and the outrageous cost of going to a game now.

Bulls**t.

Or hadn't you noticed how we've got a starting QB asking the fanbase that does show up to refrain from booing at least one time.

[skyline]

Hair, I agree with you on a lot of points here. Like you, Bengals fans often annoy me to no end.

That said, living in Nashville, I hear fans spewing the same amount of crap in Titansville every day on call-in shows. I don't think the difference in between our fans and others is quite as big as you seem to imagine. What differences we do see are due to all of the years of losing we've had to endure, which can be enough to make the most vividly orange-tinted glasses appear dingy and gray at times.

Regardless, crappy fans in other cities don't give Bengals fans a free pass when they act like skeptial fairweather critics at best. The lack of support for our team is pretty discouraging at times...people bashing Carson for asking fans to show some support in the booing thread for example. Pretty unbelievable. And yet, I've seen the exact same discussion on several Titans boards as well. So, you know...human nature and all of that.

[Ickey44]

That being said, I don't think it has anything to do with the fans not supporting their team. I think it's more to do with the economy and the outrageous cost of going to a game now.

Bulls**t.

Or hadn't you noticed how we've got a starting QB asking the fanbase that does show up to refrain from booing at least one time.

What does that have to do with people buying tickets? That's what I was talking about.

[Ickey44]

Of course the Bengals have fine fans, including me, and on occasion...you. But that said, here you are proclaiming Bengal fans aren't the worst in the entire NFL while at the exact same time demanding your right to boo the home team during a playoff game.

You act like the Bengals fans are the only ones who boo there team. Being a good fan doesn't mean that you have to be pleased with EVERYTHING your team does.

[HoosierCat]

Lance ignores them, and you ignore them, in favor of a handful of message board posters and one idiot who called his show before the season.

Well, to be perfectly fair, all you're doing is ignoring a different group of people.

Yes. I'm ignoring the tiny number of cranks (present company included) who post on internet message boards and call in to radio sports talk shows.

It's always the negative Nellies who dominate these sorts of things. People who are happy with the team usually just change the station, or lurk and laugh.

Isn't the No. 1 complaint of that "small army" over at WDR that there is an absolutely overwhelming number of fans who "don't get it" and keep going to games? Don't they constantly bemoan their status as the enlightened few amongst the mass of sheeple?

Even more to the point, didn't they call off their "project mayhem" disruption activities once the Bengals started wining?

There is plenty of healthy, normal support for the team in Cincinnati, as tens of thousands of ticket-buyers and game attendees attest at every home game.

[HoosierCat]

Or hadn't you noticed how we've got a starting QB asking the fanbase that does show up to refrain from booing at least one time.

You know, I've been to games in Giants Stadium and heard both Jets and Giants fans boo their teams when they played poorly.

Same at Soldier Field with Bears fans.

Heck, I went to Ohio University. All we did was boo the Bobcats, because all they did was lose.

Booing your team when it plays like crap on its own turf is normal fan behavior, not a sign of an abberant fan mentality.

However, I will happily take up a collection to fly you to Cincinnati and put you up in the nicest hotel in town if you promise to go to the game and cheer lustily every time the Bengals throw a pick, fumble, fail to convert a first, miss a FG, get a penalty or any other negative event. Note that this collection will not cover the subsequent medical bills you will have after getting the crap kicked out of you.

[HairOnFire]

And yet, I've seen the exact same discussion on several Titans boards as well. So, you know...human nature and all of that.

Do Titan fans attempt to humilate and embarrass the franchise they claim to support the very moment the team is featured on a nationally televised series? Do they create websites devoted to waging financial warfare on the team they claim to support? Are they so negative their starting QB begs them to stop booing, for once, during the playoffs?

Seriously, I'm asking ya' because I don't know what Titan fans are like. All I know is how happy I'd be if a fairly large portion of this teams fanbase disappeared overnight, never to return. Furthermore, I'm hoping everyone of those so-called enlightened fans stay away from PBS Saturday. Because in my most humble of opinions...ahem....fans like them don't deserve the opportunity to freeze their tiny balls off, and they most certainly don't deserve the right to boo a playoff team.

And yeah, I'm talking directly to the likes of Kid Shula, MomsLikeMe, or any other constantly whining s**theel you care to mention.

[HairOnFire]

However, I will happily take up a collection to fly you to Cincinnati and put you up in the nicest hotel in town if you promise to go to the game and cheer lustily every time the Bengals throw a pick, fumble, fail to convert a first, miss a FG, get a penalty or any other negative event.

Make it happen. I'll happily take your money. And if I can't make it to the game I'll give the money to someone who actually wants to be there.

Note that this collection will not cover the subsequent medical bills you will have after getting the crap kicked out of you.

Let me remind you how I almost got in a fight at the last Bengal game I attended, but the two puke covered guys standing infront of my fists were so drunk they couldn't lift their chins high enough for proper punching.

[skyline]

And yet, I've seen the exact same discussion on several Titans boards as well. So, you know...human nature and all of that.

Do Titan fans attempt to humilate and embarrass the franchise they claim to support the very moment the team is featured on a nationally televised series? Do they create websites devoted to waging financial warfare on the team they claim to support? Are they so negative their starting QB begs them to stop booing, for once, during the playoffs?

Yes to all of those.

There's nothing quite comparable to WDR, but again...Titans fans haven't had to endure the same amount of losing that we have.

That said, they did have a site dedicated to the firing of Jeff Fisher, and several others similar sites have come and gone through the years.

And yes, they boo on a VERY regular basis. It resulted in Vince Young leaving the field in tears and going off the radar for a day or so as I'm sure you remember. Granted, Vince seems to have an amazingly thin skin, but the fans behaved no better then than they do now in Cincy. And this season, of course, they've gone from hating Vince to calling him the team's Savior and then went through the entire cycle again. It's all the same. One week, their running attack is the answer. The next week they should take on a high flying aerial assault even though Vince is and isn't capable of doing so depending on which second you happen to ask the question.

And to top it all, I've witnessed Titans fans cheer when another player gets hurt. It was our own beloved Jeff Blake in fact, when he got hurt against the Titans in their first regular season game at their new stadium. I was there. They then proceeded to boo when he came back onto the field. Very classy.

And yet I often hear Titans fans mentioned as some of the best in the NFL due to how they sell out games, etc.

Keep in mind, I don't despite the Titans fans in general...there are a lot of good ones out there. But the problems we're seeing in Cincy are generally the same.

[HairOnFire]

Keep in mind, I don't despise the Titans fans in general...there are a lot of good ones out there. But the problems we're seeing in Cincy are generally the same.

Fair enough. I stand corrected.

Let the permanent record now show how the Bengals fans who suck, and suck hard, do so only in time honored and conventional ways.

I'm sure we all feel better now.

[HoosierCat]

Let me remind you how I almost got in a fight at the last Bengal game I attended, but the two puke covered guys standing infront of my fists were so drunk they couldn't lift their chins high enough for proper punching.

Oh, now, wait, this sounds like a good story...I haven't heard this one. C'mon, spill.

[bwillycuse]

What was this thread about?

Oh yeah. The Bengals can run and play defense and hidden somewhere deep is a good passing game.

[HairOnFire]

Don't you think hacks like Lance and Doc know their audience and what it wants?

In a word? No.

Well I guess you're going to get your daily serving of s**t anyway, whether you want it or not.

"As John Thornton said last week....at one point in practice last year Carson looked at Simpson and said..."get out of my huddle and stay out til you can figure out the play" --- Lance McAllister, misguided momentum builder

[Ickey44]

Don't you think hacks like Lance and Doc know their audience and what it wants?

In a word? No.

Well I guess you're going to get your daily serving of s**t anyway, whether you want it or not.

"As John Thornton said last week....at one point in practice last year Carson looked at Simpson and said..."get out of my huddle and stay out til you can figure out the play" --- Lance McAllister, misguided momentum builder

What are you talking about?

[HairOnFire]

What are you talking about?

Sorry, but didn't you just media claim hacks like Doc and Lance don't know what their local audience wants to hear? Aren't you implying Cincy listeners and readers don't really feed upon the negativity they're constantly being fed? And yet, one day before a playoff game is to be played Lance props up a year-old quote that paints a negative portrait of a Bengal player who won't even play today.

Just saying...

[Ickey44]

What are you talking about?

Sorry, but didn't you just media claim hacks like Doc and Lance don't know what their local audience wants to hear? Aren't you implying Cincy listeners and readers don't really feed upon the negativity they're constantly being fed? And yet, one day before a playoff game is to be played Lance props up a year-old quote that paints a negative portrait of a Bengal player who won't even play today.

Just saying...

Yes that's what I'm implying because most people I talk to can't stand to read their (Lance and Doc)work. I know that's not scientific proof, but........just saying.