Baghdad_bengal Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 I think I am going crazy here. The Bengals lost to Denver by a fluke play. At the time I thought they never should have enven been oin the situtation where that could occur. No Denver has beaten Cleveland (no shock there) but beat them pretty bad. Green Bay Beat Chicago in week one and then Chicago beat the Steelers. that tells me we may have a pretty good shot this season. I know its early and every year I get kicked in the nuts by the Brown family I am excited again and I promised myself I would not do it again this year. Ok... More analysis.Pittsburgh had a tough win against Tennessee in week 1 and then Tennessee lost to Houston? So if Tennessee had a bad/mediocre team, then maybe Pittsburgh is in serious trouble and we win this week rolling to 2-1. Or am I setting myself up for another kick in the junk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Pittsburgh has an excellent football team. I don't think we can really take much from their loss to Chicago, and even less from the second degree Tennessee loss to Houston. I think the Bengals can win, they're generally playing good football right now. We don't have much of a homefield advantage, so I don't expect that to help us any. We'll have to make certain the Steelers continue to struggle in running the ball and we'll have to pressure Ben. If we can even protect Palmer and score a strong 20 points, I think we'll be okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 I think I am going crazy here. The Bengals lost to Denver by a fluke play. At the time I thought they never should have enven been oin the situtation where that could occur. No Denver has beaten Cleveland (no shock there) but beat them pretty bad. Green Bay Beat Chicago in week one and then Chicago beat the Steelers. that tells me we may have a pretty good shot this season. I know its early and every year I get kicked in the nuts by the Brown family I am excited again and I promised myself I would not do it again this year. Ok... More analysis.Pittsburgh had a tough win against Tennessee in week 1 and then Tennessee lost to Houston? So if Tennessee had a bad/mediocre team, then maybe Pittsburgh is in serious trouble and we win this week rolling to 2-1. Or am I setting myself up for another kick in the junk?It's not a very accurate way to measure a team by comparing who lost to who and by how much. Teams match up with one another differently and there are other important factors to look at. Cin vs. Pitt and Tenn vs. Hou are games where the teams are familiar with one another. Basically, if we used this logic the Broncos are #1 because they beat Cincinnati who beat Green Bay who beat Chicago who beat Pittsburgh who are the Super Bowl champs. But yeah, it's hard not to look at the early match-ups because what else can we look at? I'm feeling that we are better than what was first thought, while the Packers and Steelers are not as strong as what most were thinking. We've got a real chance to win this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalByTheBay Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 It's not a very accurate way to measure a team by comparing who lost to who and by how much. Teams match up with one another differently and there are other important factors to look at. Cin vs. Pitt and Tenn vs. Hou are games where the teams are familiar with one another. Basically, if we used this logic the Broncos are #1 because they beat Cincinnati who beat Green Bay who beat Chicago who beat Pittsburgh who are the Super Bowl champs. But yeah, it's hard not to look at the early match-ups because what else can we look at? I'm feeling that we are better than what was first thought, while the Packers and Steelers are not as strong as what most were thinking. We've got a real chance to win this weekend.I agree with this in that it's not quite this simple. If it was, there wouldn't be such a huge market for gambling because everybody would know the same things as everybody else. In addition to matchup analysis, you've got home field advantages, injuries, and a whole host of other variables involved. I voted "no" on the junk question just because I think the Bengal can hang with Pittsburgh. That doesn't mean they win every time, but it does line up as a legitimate game, rather than the big, bad squeelers coming in to beat up on the hapless Bengals. IMO Pitt. isn't quite as bad as they've shown so far and they will be fired-up for a division game - moreso because of the loss on Sunday. I see the teams as relatively similar right now actually. Both teams are shakey on the o line and both look pretty good on d. Running games are both a little inconsistent, but I can't believe that Pitt's RB's aren't going to get on track relatively soon....week 4 would be good.Biggest factor, however, will be the conference/rivalry as both teams should be motivated and focused. The team that handles that pressure and channels it best may have the advantage and it's hard to argue that Pitt. shouldn't be considered the more "mature" team in that respect. All that said, I hope Odom/Geathers/Peko/Sims open up another can of whupass this week and make it a laugher! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Let's hope Brat and Co realize the way to beat the Steelers is not to force the run. Pounding it between the tackles plays into their strength, not ours. Our mismatches against them come with Chris Henry and Andre Caldwell downfield. They need to establish the pass in order to set up the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 This is a simple math equation people. By the transitive property, the Bengals win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 This is a simple math equation people. By the transitive property, the Bengals win!Shank-o-nomics?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 I can't remember what they call it when you begin your analysis by predetermining the outcome you want most, and then you tweak all of the data until it matches your predetermined wishes. But whatever they call it, that's where my head is at this week. Steelers lose. Bengals win. In fact, I'm so certain of the above I may not bother watching the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I can't remember what they call it when you begin your analysis by predetermining the outcome you want most, and then you tweak all of the data until it matches your predetermined wishes. But whatever they call it, that's where my head is at this week. Steelers lose. Bengals win. In fact, I'm so certain of the above I may not bother watching the game. I believe, from what I remember from college, that is called Statistics. The science of manipulating the data to support your claim. Politicians are experts at this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I can't remember what they call it when you begin your analysis by predetermining the outcome you want most, and then you tweak all of the data until it matches your predetermined wishes. But whatever they call it, that's where my head is at this week. Steelers lose. Bengals win. In fact, I'm so certain of the above I may not bother watching the game. I believe, from what I remember from college, that is called Statistics. The science of manipulating the data to support your claim. Politicians are experts at this.Hey now...as a Stats teacher, I take issue with this statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I can't remember what they call it when you begin your analysis by predetermining the outcome you want most, and then you tweak all of the data until it matches your predetermined wishes. But whatever they call it, that's where my head is at this week. Steelers lose. Bengals win. In fact, I'm so certain of the above I may not bother watching the game. I believe, from what I remember from college, that is called Statistics. The science of manipulating the data to support your claim. Politicians are experts at this.Hey now...as a Stats teacher, I take issue with this statement Sorry, maybe I had a bad Stats teacher in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwillycuse Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I dont think anyone is going into this game expecting a win.But after last weeks showing and the defenses showing in week one, the confidence is there.WHo Dey!!!!(and if anyone saw the Steelers two games - they arent really blowing the doors off anyone and they are without the dude with hair that is getting ridiculously long) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I can't remember what they call it when you begin your analysis by predetermining the outcome you want most, and then you tweak all of the data until it matches your predetermined wishes. But whatever they call it, that's where my head is at this week. Steelers lose. Bengals win. In fact, I'm so certain of the above I may not bother watching the game. I believe, from what I remember from college, that is called Statistics. The science of manipulating the data to support your claim. Politicians are experts at this.Hey now...as a Stats teacher, I take issue with this statement Sorry, maybe I had a bad Stats teacher in college.Haha, no...people abuse stats all the time...either out of ignorance or a blatant attempt to manipulate. The subject itself is worthwhile, though...it's just stupid people that give it a bad name sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 No we aren't. I'm not saying we will win but we have a great chance and have all the tools to do it. We just need to execute. It's in our hands and if we lose it'll be our own fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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