Ickey44 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I wouldn't mind giving him a shot. He hasn't fared too well in Minny, but their receivers suck up there. I'd actually like to see what Lil' Palmer can do as well and I think we'll get that chance on Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 So I brought it up in the Favre thread and will address it here as well, but there is a report that the Vikings would be willing to trade Tavaris Jackson for a mid to low round draft pick. So I ask, what do you guys think ?? They said there is even a possibility of releasing him. Now I'm sure we will have a better idea after Thursdays game agains the Pats, but it does present an interesting situation as I view Jackson as a better option than either O'Sullivan or Palmer v2.0. If he could be had with a 4th or 5th do you do it ??I replied in that thread. I wouldn't be against it. He can throw the ball, his problem is decisions making. Whether or not the pros think that's a terminal problem - he's too stoopid - or an experience problem coming from a small school combined with poor coaching will determine who picks him up and for what price I guess.I personally would for a 4th or 5th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Any word if Rey is healthy enough to play? According to Bearcat it all depends on the humidity. Either you are stupid enough to interpret what I said as that, or you are not. Its pretty much that simple. Did you miss the smilie face I offered as a clue I might be joking? Or do we NOT respect the smilie around here? Harrumph, I say. Regardless, I think the only reason we're talking about this is because you're so stupid you forgot Maualuga's injury was pre-existing. In fact, I doubt even you give much credence to your half-wit theory about humidity and dehydration, but because you wrote it and threw it against the internet you're now stuck with it. And there's the rub. Because when you start from a position of ignorance, which you most certainly did, and then couple it with your already well established history of dishonesty, half-truths, and laughable embellishments we end up with a moronic Groundhogian manifesto about humidity, dehydration, and penny pinching being the cause of a hamstring injury that originally took place months ago and thousands of miles away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet23 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Any word if Rey is healthy enough to play? According to Bearcat it all depends on the humidity. Either you are stupid enough to interpret what I said as that, or you are not. Its pretty much that simple. Did you miss the smilie face I offered as a clue I might be joking? Or do we NOT respect the smilie around here? Harrumph, I say. Regardless, I think the only reason we're talking about this is because you're so stupid you forgot Maualuga's injury was pre-existing. In fact, I doubt even you give much credence to your half-wit theory about humidity and dehydration, but because you wrote it and threw it against the internet you're now stuck with it. And there's the rub. Because when you start from a position of ignorance, which you most certainly did, and then couple it with your already well established history of dishonesty, half-truths, and laughable embellishments we end up with a moronic Groundhogian manifesto about humidity, dehydration, and penny pinching being the cause of a hamstring injury that originally took place months ago and thousands of miles away.Is groundhogian a real word? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickey44 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Nobody respects the smiley anymore....sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Yeah, Jackson has had some issues and part of the reason Favre is there to begin with, but he has continued to improve. Even with sharing snaps, Jackson still got some time and when he started the last 4 games of the season, his numbers did look good. In his last 4 games he had a QB rating of 115.4, had a 64% completion percentage, threw an average of 185 yards per game, 8 TD's to 1 INT, and ran 15 times for a 5 yard average. He has had some problems fumbling as well, but I think he continued to progress within their system and am quite shocked they are willing to just let him go.Maybe that indicates more than I'm aware, but he certainly peaks my interest more that what we have and if we were willing to make an offer to Vick, I would think they would have to view Jackson are more ready to go than Vick currently is and would help our situation. Just saying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Is groundhogian a real word? Well, how about Groundhoggian? Because sometimes an extra G makes all the difference, ehh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickey44 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Yeah, Jackson has had some issues and part of the reason Favre is there to begin with, but he has continued to improve. Even with sharing snaps, Jackson still got some time and when he started the last 4 games of the season, his numbers did look good. In his last 4 games he had a QB rating of 115.4, had a 64% completion percentage, threw an average of 185 yards per game, 8 TD's to 1 INT, and ran 15 times for a 5 yard average. He has had some problems fumbling as well, but I think he continued to progress within their system and am quite shocked they are willing to just let him go.Maybe that indicates more than I'm aware, but he certainly peaks my interest more that what we have and if we were willing to make an offer to Vick, I would think they would have to view Jackson are more ready to go than Vick currently is and would help our situation. Just saying...I agree completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 The other thing to consider in regards to Jackson is the fact he is only owed a salary of $535,000 this year. When you consider what they were going to offer Vick, they would be getting a QB that is FAR more ready to step onto the field and actually give positive results, if needed, at a FAR less price with FAR less media concerns.You could say that Jackson would have to accept a backup role as long as Carson is healthy, but it's not he's going to be a starter just about anywhere else and given Carson's health concerns, his odds might not be that bad. With his ability to scramble and the offensive weapons the Bengals do have, like I said before, it peaks my interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat1975 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Regardless, I think the only reason we're talking about this is because you're so stupid you forgot Maualuga's injury was pre-existing. In fact, I doubt even you give much credence to your half-wit theory about humidity and dehydration, but because you wrote it and threw it against the internet you're now stuck with it. Pre-existing or no, there is a positive correlation between heat/humidity and hamstring pulls/dehydration. And there's the rub. Because when you start from a position of ignorance, which you most certainly did, and then couple it with your already well established history of dishonesty, half-truths, and laughable embellishments we end up with a moronic Groundhogian manifesto about humidity, dehydration, and penny pinching being the cause of a hamstring injury that originally took place months ago and thousands of miles away.Hmm, that language sounds familiar...where have I heard it before? Oh yeah... Actually, you tell lies and half-truths in nearly every post you write....including todays menu items featuring Andre Smith's holdout and Carson Palmer's future injury. Sadly, tomorrow you'll tell even more lies and half-truths....all in the name of being a better more informed Bengal fan.When Smith holds out and Palmer gets injured, I will take no enjoyment in the fact that you will have been proven wrong once again.Does it hurt for you to be wrong all the time or have you just gotten used to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 The other thing to consider in regards to Jackson is the fact he is only owed a salary of $535,000 this year. When you consider what they were going to offer Vick, they would be getting a QB that is FAR more ready to step onto the field and actually give positive results, if needed, at a FAR less price with FAR less media concerns.You could say that Jackson would have to accept a backup role as long as Carson is healthy, but it's not he's going to be a starter just about anywhere else and given Carson's health concerns, his odds might not be that bad. With his ability to scramble and the offensive weapons the Bengals do have, like I said before, it peaks my interest.No kidding, Mr. Every Second Post I Type Is About Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Hey hey now, I'm only trying to think of ways to improve the roster. Wait a minute, isn't that what the coaches should be doing ??Honestly, I can't even say as I'm a big T. Jackson fan, but simply thinking of what the Bengals were trying to do with Vick and what they stand to gain by giving up maybe a 4th or 5th round pick for him. I suspect tomorrows game will be the tell tail of what they would like to do at the position, but I just think if it was an interest before Carson got hurt, that interest still exists to improve the backup QB position.Either way, just talking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Pre-existing or no, there is a positive correlation between heat/humidity and hamstring pulls/dehydration. I can't blame you for attempting to deflect the issue of whether the injury was pre-existing. After all, it's an important point that blasts your whole rant out of the water. Worse, it's been common knowledge for months yet you seemed blissfully unaware. Regardless, armed with the above nugget-o-knowledge you blatantly and ignorantly attempted to spin Maualuga's current hamstring issues as "evidence" the Bengals were unaware of factors that might delay Rey's rehab. In fact, the very opposite is true. And how do we know that? Because any decision to pull Maualuga from practices, and to delay his NFL debut, is hard evidence the Bengals were indeed aware of the lasting impact and risk associated with a hamstring injury, and were actively managing his rehab by taking precautionary steps to prevent it from becoming worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 No kidding, Mr. Every Second Post I Type Is About Jackson. I think you guys are fixating on the wrong QB. Because I'm all about the Booty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Honestly, I can't even say as I'm a big T. Jackson fan*sniff* *rubs tears from eyes*As my 6 year old told me when I grounded her to her room the other day - and you have to imagine a shrill voice rising in tone with each word - "I dont like you, and I'm not going to be your friend!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat1975 Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Pre-existing or no, there is a positive correlation between heat/humidity and hamstring pulls/dehydration. I can't blame you for attempting to deflect the issue of whether the injury was pre-existing. After all, it's an important point that blasts your whole rant out of the water. Worse, it's been common knowledge for months yet you seemed blissfully unaware. Regardless, armed with the above nugget-o-knowledge you blatantly and ignorantly attempted to spin Maualuga's current hamstring issues as "evidence" the Bengals were unaware of factors that might delay Rey's rehab. In fact, the very opposite is true. And how do we know that? Because any decision to pull Maualuga from practices, and to delay his NFL debut, is hard evidence the Bengals were indeed aware of the lasting impact and risk associated with a hamstring injury, and were actively managing his rehab by taking precautionary steps to prevent it from becoming worse.I don't blame you for dodging the other part of my post. It really makes you look like a schmuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I don't blame you for dodging the other part of my post. Do you mean the part where you once again attempted to evade the issue by portraying yourself as a know-it-all teenage cockbag? Or wasn't I supposed to notice how you keep evading further discussion of a point you alone brought up? Frankly MamaBear, when I think of you all I see is a garden variety dink who probably forgot Maualuga was injured when drafted, and then in ignorance spun a pointless and intellectually dishonest rant about humidity and hamstrings. Good luck with that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I also made a post about John David Booty and the fact the Vikings were said to consider trying to slide him through waivers to the practice squad, thereby not having to get rid of any of the QB's on the roster. If that was the case, then sure, I would be all about making a move to snatch him up. However, that being said, I believe Jackson to be a more "ready now" type of QB that I could see doing well in our system. Honestly, I would just like to see the Bengals make ANY move at all to attempt to improve the back up QB position. It doesn't even need to be either of these two, it just so happens they are the ones that seem to be most likely at this point in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I also made a post about John David Booty and the fact the Vikings were said to consider trying to slide him through waivers to the practice squad, thereby not having to get rid of any of the QB's on the roster. If that was the case, then sure, I would be all about making a move to snatch him up. I don't think they can. Not sure where I stumbled over the news but I read somewhere Booty can't be placed on the practice squad, and probably wouldn't last a week even if they could. Frankly, I've never been a big fan, but Booty is a fairly solid prospect, and he's gracefully accepted his current status as a backup. But most important, he's the guy I think will get shoved to the curb, not Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 It's inexpensive for the Vikings to hold onto Jackson, he knows the system to provide a solid backup, and they don't have to trade him unless they can get something of value for him. Who knows ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat1975 Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I don't blame you for dodging the other part of my post. Do you mean the part where you once again attempted to evade the issue by portraying yourself as a know-it-all teenage cockbag? Nope. I mean this part that you keep dodging. The part where in 5 seconds worth of searching here, I find a post where you are dead wrong (as usual) accusing me of being dead wrong (as usual).Actually, you tell lies and half-truths in nearly every post you write....including todays menu items featuring Andre Smith's holdout and Carson Palmer's future injury. Sadly, tomorrow you'll tell even more lies and half-truths....all in the name of being a better more informed Bengal fan.When Smith holds out and Palmer gets injured, I will take no enjoyment in the fact that you will have been proven wrong once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickey44 Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I don't blame you for dodging the other part of my post. Do you mean the part where you once again attempted to evade the issue by portraying yourself as a know-it-all teenage cockbag? Nope. I mean this part that you keep dodging. The part where in 5 seconds worth of searching here, I find a post where you are dead wrong (as usual) accusing me of being dead wrong (as usual).Actually, you tell lies and half-truths in nearly every post you write....including todays menu items featuring Andre Smith's holdout and Carson Palmer's future injury. Sadly, tomorrow you'll tell even more lies and half-truths....all in the name of being a better more informed Bengal fan.When Smith holds out and Palmer gets injured, I will take no enjoyment in the fact that you will have been proven wrong once again.You ARE wrong, tool. Palmer DID NOT get hurt because of Smith holding out or poor pass protection. He got hurt diving for HIS FUMBLE. Get it through your thick, impenetrable skull. That's where you're wrong.....again. You thinking one thing had to do with the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Pointless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickey44 Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Then why comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Then why comment?Easy big fella...I wasn't referring to your comments, rather someone who is incapable of simply acknowledging their oversight.We've all been there and had to either backtrack or eat some crow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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