IfItsBrownFlushItDown Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 madden ---- 2005 u can create a fan its going to be awsomehow does that make the game better??? Create a fan how f**king gay.... are they gonna havea mall where you can pick outfit's for him also? That's cuz they have nothing to go back and fix. ESPN had to go back and make improvements on the actual game, whereas Madden could get creative and add another detail outside of the actual games. It doesn't necessarily make the game any better, but it makes it more interesting for the Madden fans who just keep coming back year after year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B24 Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 madden ---- 2005 u can create a fan its going to be awsomehow does that make the game better??? Create a fan how f**king gay.... are they gonna havea mall where you can pick outfit's for him also? That's cuz they have nothing to go back and fix. ESPN had to go back and make improvements on the actual game, whereas Madden could get creative and add another detail outside of the actual games. It doesn't necessarily make the game any better, but it makes it more interesting for the Madden fans who just keep coming back year after year... To say Madden had nothing to go back and fix is ridiculous. What about the play of the DB's in Madden? Also the repetitious plays are not recognized by the by the game. You can run the same play over and over without the computer picking up on it. Another thing, it's pretty cool that a player can catch up to a player that's got 20 more speed point attributes. Haven't played it for a few months so that's all I can think of.I'm not saying that ESPN doesn't have it's own problems, but Madden has just as many if not more problems.Madden is popular because of blind loyalty. EA could release Tecmo Bowl and name it Madden Football and people would argue that it's better than ESPN Football.Fan Creator is a useless feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfItsBrownFlushItDown Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 I shouldn't have said have nothing to fix, but less. I do agree B24 that Madden has its flaws...but I have played both games, alternating between the two, and from what I've seen, ESPN definately had some work to do. Madden did restructure the D for this year but I didn't think it was something that HAD to be done. Its not like your defensive players weren't capable of tackling or anything, but offense was definately more overpowering than defense. So I guess I am forced to retract my previous statement...MADDEN ISN'T PERFECT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitansFan Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 madden ---- 2005 u can create a fan its going to be awsomehow does that make the game better??? Create a fan how f**king gay.... are they gonna havea mall where you can pick outfit's for him also? lol i dont know i just think its going to be fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 im sorry but the DB's in madden react better and more realistically than on espn football. There are just minor adjustments that madden needs to make, mind u they need to make the same on espn. like making it random like 5% chance that u can block a kick...otherwise no matter where u line up u cant get in every single time. (idiots do it online all the time)2nd they need to not allow u to pick the same play over and over. If u run the same play more than 2-3 times in a game it gets batted down/picked etc. And u can definately not run the same play twice in a row. theres other minor stuff but i cant think now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 madden ---- 2005 u can create a fan its going to be awsomehow does that make the game better??? Create a fan how f**king gay.... are they gonna havea mall where you can pick outfit's for him also? That's cuz they have nothing to go back and fix. ESPN had to go back and make improvements on the actual game, whereas Madden could get creative and add another detail outside of the actual games. It doesn't necessarily make the game any better, but it makes it more interesting for the Madden fans who just keep coming back year after year... To say Madden had nothing to go back and fix is ridiculous. What about the play of the DB's in Madden? Also the repetitious plays are not recognized by the by the game. You can run the same play over and over without the computer picking up on it. Another thing, it's pretty cool that a player can catch up to a player that's got 20 more speed point attributes. Haven't played it for a few months so that's all I can think of.I'm not saying that ESPN doesn't have it's own problems, but Madden has just as many if not more problems.Madden is popular because of blind loyalty. EA could release Tecmo Bowl and name it Madden Football and people would argue that it's better than ESPN Football.Fan Creator is a useless feature. they could put a turd in the case and a note that says please play madden 2004 this year, and your $50 donation is appreciated and it would still out sell espn it's just pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 im sorry but the DB's in madden react better and more realistically than on espn football. There are just minor adjustments that madden needs to make, mind u they need to make the same on espn. like making it random like 5% chance that u can block a kick...otherwise no matter where u line up u cant get in every single time. (idiots do it online all the time)2nd they need to not allow u to pick the same play over and over. If u run the same play more than 2-3 times in a game it gets batted down/picked etc. And u can definately not run the same play twice in a row. theres other minor stuff but i cant think now.... Na i think in espn it's made for you to take control of the db's as soon as you realize pass, and expect you to manually cover the wr yourself. it meant to be more user done, and not all computer stuff. ESPN is really built for online and between human oppenents, I'll admit ESPN really aint all the great when playing the computer, but then again i don't live in 1994 where i found it fun to playthe computer in football. I'd rather beat another human being.ESPN is all about human gameplay...it dictates how good u r at that game, i can beat people 60-0 with the bengals over pats, because my oppenent sucks other times i lose like maybe 24-34 because the guy doesn't just sit on the D line the entire game and expecting the computer to defend for you. You got the controller switch players and make a play on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kchrpm Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 Personally I prefer a game where my players are smart enough to do their job... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 I've never played ESPN because, well I DO have a loyalty towards Madden for the easy game play and realistic features. I have also read a ton on Madden 2005 and they are revamping the AI on both sides of the ball and adding a TON on the computer defense.They've revamped the engine and supposedly have made the improvements that should crush ESPNs version. EA Sports is about video games and most of my games are created by EA. I haven't bought a game created by ESPN, because they are in the business to soley make a profit. While EA makes a profit, they pride themselves on great games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Stripes Posted June 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 i cant wait for madden 2005... aug. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbarian Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 madden ---- 2005 u can create a fan its going to be awsomehow does that make the game better??? Create a fan how f**king gay.... are they gonna havea mall where you can pick outfit's for him also? That's cuz they have nothing to go back and fix. ESPN had to go back and make improvements on the actual game, whereas Madden could get creative and add another detail outside of the actual games. It doesn't necessarily make the game any better, but it makes it more interesting for the Madden fans who just keep coming back year after year... To say Madden had nothing to go back and fix is ridiculous. What about the play of the DB's in Madden? Also the repetitious plays are not recognized by the by the game. You can run the same play over and over without the computer picking up on it. Another thing, it's pretty cool that a player can catch up to a player that's got 20 more speed point attributes. Haven't played it for a few months so that's all I can think of.I'm not saying that ESPN doesn't have it's own problems, but Madden has just as many if not more problems.Madden is popular because of blind loyalty. EA could release Tecmo Bowl and name it Madden Football and people would argue that it's better than ESPN Football.Fan Creator is a useless feature. they could put a turd in the case and a note that says please play madden 2004 this year, and your $50 donation is appreciated and it would still out sell espn it's just pathetic. Turning,Is the like the same s**t that Metallica has been putting on CDs for the past 10 years???I'm pretty sure that Lars Ulrich and James Hetfield could take a giant s**t on a CD, and people would still fork over their $12.99 for it at Best Buy.Metallica sucks now. They've sucked for 10-15 years now.In my opinion, they haven't put out a CD since Masters of Puppets.Oh yeah, and since someone mentioned TECMO BOWL--I just wanna say that I wanna see that game re-released!!! Lawrence Taylor on that game kicked ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 im sorry but the DB's in madden react better and more realistically than on espn football. There are just minor adjustments that madden needs to make, mind u they need to make the same on espn. like making it random like 5% chance that u can block a kick...otherwise no matter where u line up u cant get in every single time. (idiots do it online all the time)2nd they need to not allow u to pick the same play over and over. If u run the same play more than 2-3 times in a game it gets batted down/picked etc. And u can definately not run the same play twice in a row. theres other minor stuff but i cant think now....Na i think in espn it's made for you to take control of the db's as soon as you realize pass, and expect you to manually cover the wr yourself. it meant to be more user done, and not all computer stuff. ESPN is really built for online and between human oppenents, I'll admit ESPN really aint all the great when playing the computer, but then again i don't live in 1994 where i found it fun to playthe computer in football. I'd rather beat another human being.ESPN is all about human gameplay...it dictates how good u r at that game, i can beat people 60-0 with the bengals over pats, because my oppenent sucks other times i lose like maybe 24-34 because the guy doesn't just sit on the D line the entire game and expecting the computer to defend for you. You got the controller switch players and make a play on the ball. well i agree with u there but theres one problem i have with your argument. In madden u have the choice of switching onto the DB and playing coverage or letting the computer do it. Otherwords, eitherway works on madden. On espn football u MUST click on the player for it to play coverage and have a chance. The problem with that is sometimes it doesnt click on the right guy etc and u get burned to a crisp cuz of the crappy coverage skills by the computer. At least on madden if u switch late or dont switch at all, u got a chance to make a stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kchrpm Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 EA Sports is about video games and most of my games are created by EA. I haven't bought a game created by ESPN, because they are in the business to soley make a profit. While EA makes a profit, they pride themselves on great games. ESPN doesn't create them, Sega pays them to use their name, logo, people, etc etc.And EA is in it to make money. They make more money by making good games. If they could make more money by making s**tty games, they would.One needs only look at their earlier Bond licensed games to realize that not all of their products are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 I've never played ESPN because, well I DO have a loyalty towards Madden for the easy game play and realistic features. I have also read a ton on Madden 2005 and they are revamping the AI on both sides of the ball and adding a TON on the computer defense.They've revamped the engine and supposedly have made the improvements that should crush ESPNs version. EA Sports is about video games and most of my games are created by EA. I haven't bought a game created by ESPN, because they are in the business to soley make a profit. While EA makes a profit, they pride themselves on great games.u must be mixing up stuff here....all madden 2005 is a roster update of 2004 with online play, and they are still charging $50.ESPN is selling there copy for $20...How the hell can u possibly say ESPN is going for profit and EA ISN't.My god man that;s gotta be the most insane thing i've ever seen typed.ESPN has made so many Improvements on 2k5 that it is not even funny, madden hasn't done a damn thing dude.EA is all about profits...they make it the cheepest way possible and then hype the hell out of it and sell like 3 million copis.seriosuly going off Kchrpm said.They;re actually making a goldeneye bond game just ot profit off the N64 game. That game could be miserable and it will still sell 5 million copies because people will see the GOldeneye lable and buy it.DOn't ever feed me the that worthless bs about espn trying to make money ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daredevil25 Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 I was firmly convinced ESPN would be the better game, until I learned of Madden's new direction towards defense. I've always complained that Madden was too WR friendly and having better coverage would help it. Right now I'm still on the fence about both games, but thanks to the team I play, ESPN holds the advantage thanks to QB evade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 u r gona love qb evade with vick, not to mention the new rb moves with the right joystick, you can make dunn look like a mini barry sanders, also the wr's u have will be quite the explosive offense.U will love the game, just remember to go the the mini camp practice mod yo figure out the move's.I'd also look into xbox live, it offer quite the fun game vs real oppenents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daredevil25 Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Yeah, that's the really sweet thing, but I also like that Madden has taken a swap to a more defensive oriented gameplan. I may get ESPN first and Madden second, but I'm pretty sure whichever game a family member gets will be the opposite of my choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 http://www.espnvideogames.com/news/movie.php?id=604i thought u guys might like this video it show the final score between the jet's and bengals.It shows the jets mulling over a 45-3 loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 http://www.espnvideogames.com/news/movie.php?id=585&gid=7MY GOD, i actually felt like i was watching sportscenter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 ill be getting madden for xblive. i cant remember my handle but i think its jditty47..if its not ill post after i get it to whoop up on u fools:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 cool i'm on xbl a lot with the 1st person shooters.mine's two78live4ever.I'll be getting EA ncaa and espn football. Maybe madden, but the game is a couple steps behind espn and 2.5x the price i just don't see myself doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebdula Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Madden ownz ESPN.. Does anyone know how to make your custom playbook appear in your profile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 I haven't bought a game created by ESPN, because they are in the business to soley make a profit. While EA makes a profit, they pride themselves on great games. This has nothing to do with the football argument,but don't kid yourself about EA.I'm an on-line flight-sim player,starting with the original Airwarrior.About four years ago,EA purchased the rights to the game,and from the first moments there were major problems.They moved the game to an incredibly laggy server,and refused to fix the problem...the bad connects were always the players fault.The game was horribly unplayable,and people(including me)stopped playing and paying,and as a result the game was killed off.EA single handedly killed the most popular on-line flying game,just four months after after an airwarrior convention in Seattle where they were showing off Airwarrior IV,because they weren't willing to fix problems that THEY created after taking the game over.They had an incredibly arrogant attitude about the problems,and would blame the players systems or connects despite the fact that all of us played the game with no problems before they took over.To top it off,they then raised the monthly fee for playing a game they had made unplayable.The game lost most of it's player base just seven months after EA took over.So if you think that EA is better than ESPN at making games because of some mythical "pride" they have,I have to disagree.EA is ALL about the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Just another EA Brainwash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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