gregstephens Posted March 17, 2009 Report Posted March 17, 2009 Enough with the drama. Cutler's vastly overrated in his own eyes. Shut up and play and or sit out. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 17, 2009 Report Posted March 17, 2009 Yeah Cutler is very emotional, but he has come on to be a pretty good QB and went to the pro bowl while setting the Denver passing record for yards last season. The only argument I have is, with all his development, it has translated into a 15-17 record as a starter. It wouldn't suprise me to see the Broncos try to trade him for some good picks and make a move to get a guy in the draft they like more as McDaniels "type of QB".All that being said, I actually kind of agree with Cutler in the fact that McDaniels straight up lied to his face in saying Cutler was his guy and there was no thought of trading him. That was an outright lie and agree that it would be difficult to trust him after that. The head coach and QB just can't have a relationship like that and have it NOT affect them on the field. Cutler just comes off as a whiner and it puts people off. Quote
gregstephens Posted March 17, 2009 Author Report Posted March 17, 2009 Yeah Cutler is very emotional, but he has come on to be a pretty good QB and went to the pro bowl while setting the Denver passing record for yards last season. The only argument I have is, with all his development, it has translated into a 15-17 record as a starter. It wouldn't suprise me to see the Broncos try to trade him for some good picks and make a move to get a guy in the draft they like more as McDaniels "type of QB".All that being said, I actually kind of agree with Cutler in the fact that McDaniels straight up lied to his face in saying Cutler was his guy and there was no thought of trading him. That was an outright lie and agree that it would be difficult to trust him after that. The head coach and QB just can't have a relationship like that and have it NOT affect them on the field. Cutler just comes off as a whiner and it puts people off.I agree McDaniels shouldn't have lied. I also agree with Cutler's initial outrage if that was the reason for the outrage. However, it appeared to me the outrage was more because the Broncos had the audacity to consider trading him. If that is the case, Cutler needs to get over himself. If the outrage is because of the lying, fine. Sit down with the team and coach, clear the air and move on. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 17, 2009 Report Posted March 17, 2009 Yeah Cutler is very emotional, but he has come on to be a pretty good QB and went to the pro bowl while setting the Denver passing record for yards last season. The only argument I have is, with all his development, it has translated into a 15-17 record as a starter. It wouldn't suprise me to see the Broncos try to trade him for some good picks and make a move to get a guy in the draft they like more as McDaniels "type of QB".All that being said, I actually kind of agree with Cutler in the fact that McDaniels straight up lied to his face in saying Cutler was his guy and there was no thought of trading him. That was an outright lie and agree that it would be difficult to trust him after that. The head coach and QB just can't have a relationship like that and have it NOT affect them on the field. Cutler just comes off as a whiner and it puts people off.I agree McDaniels shouldn't have lied. I also agree with Cutler's initial outrage if that was the reason for the outrage. However, it appeared to me the outrage was more because the Broncos had the audacity to consider trading him. If that is the case, Cutler needs to get over himself. If the outrage is because of the lying, fine. Sit down with the team and coach, clear the air and move on.Agree if Cutler is being a bitch to be a bitch. No one is above being traded and cetainly not a QB that has up to this point done nothing for his team outside of 15-17. Going to the pro bowl is about his own accomplishments. I will say though that the reports had Cutler going into the meeting to figure things out and all intentions of being a Bronco and they didn't give him the feeling they viewed him as the guy they wanted.Once again, that's if reports are accurate... Quote
fattyjay Posted March 17, 2009 Report Posted March 17, 2009 Well to shed some light on the local viewpoint, most of the fans here seem to be siding with the team. Talk show hosts included, they are tired of the whining that Cutler has shown a propensity for. On a less discussed but related topic, the Broncos are also shopping their TE Tony Sheffler, who by the way is good friends with...Jay Cutler. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 17, 2009 Report Posted March 17, 2009 Yeah, I think it's easy to paint Cutler in that way because he has shown no decline in his whining ways, but it doesn't excuse the fact that McDaniels lied to his face. I can see both sides of this one and if the Bengals should happen to benefit from this in the shape of a trade up, then I'm really happy about it. I honestly don't see that happening either though. Quote
BengalByTheBay Posted March 17, 2009 Report Posted March 17, 2009 Yeah, I think it's easy to paint Cutler in that way because he has shown no decline in his whining ways, but it doesn't excuse the fact that McDaniels lied to his face. I can see both sides of this one and if the Bengals should happen to benefit from this in the shape of a trade up, then I'm really happy about it. I honestly don't see that happening either though.This whole fiasco is simply good entertainment from somebody who doesn't care all that much (one way or the other) about the donkeys. In my opinion, teams build around QB's like Cutler and this appears to be the case of a coach who can't swallow his pride and a QB who (to all appearances) may actually want to be traded. Cutler's record has a lot to do with the fact that he had very little "grooming" period and his defense flat-out sucked a$$ last year. He's a good, borderline great, QB and if I'm the brand new coach I do everything, including mowing his lawn in a Cutler jersey, to keep him in Denver. Franchise QB's don't grow on trees. If they don't and this stuff keeps up -- pretty much just good entertainment from where I sit. Quote
derekshank Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 Yeah, I think it's easy to paint Cutler in that way because he has shown no decline in his whining ways, but it doesn't excuse the fact that McDaniels lied to his face. I can see both sides of this one and if the Bengals should happen to benefit from this in the shape of a trade up, then I'm really happy about it. I honestly don't see that happening either though.I heard McDaniels is not interested in trading Cutler for draft picks. I guess he doesn't want to rebuild from scratch. I take it to mean he's not interested in starting his coaching career with a rookie QB. This means to me that if they trade Cutler, it will be to a team that can trade them a QB... like St. Louis or Philly. I don't see the Bengals benefiting from this in terms of a draft position trade. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 Agreed Derek and there is now a report about Cutler's agent attempting to get Cutler traded (WITH Cutler's knowledge) prior to the team trying to get Casell to come there in the trade. If this is true, I would like to nominate Cutler as the biggest BITCH in the National Football League !!! Quote
gregstephens Posted March 18, 2009 Author Report Posted March 18, 2009 Agreed Derek and there is now a report about Cutler's agent attempting to get Cutler traded (WITH Cutler's knowledge) prior to the team trying to get Casell to come there in the trade. If this is true, I would like to nominate Cutler as the biggest BITCH in the National Football League !!!It just feels good when it's someone other than a Bengal, doesn't it? Quote
HairOnFire Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 It just feels good when it's someone other than a Bengal, doesn't it? True enough. Personally, I'm not tired of the Cutler story for precisely that reason. I've got no dog in the fight, no emotional ties whatsoever, and I get to see how other franchises handle the type of soap opera that seems to be more common by the day. Frankly, I find all of this rather amusing and I will probably continue to feel that way.........as long as Cutler doesn't end up in Cleveland. Quote
Esiason#7 Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 It just feels good when it's someone other than a Bengal, doesn't it? True enough. Personally, I'm not tired of the Cutler story for precisely that reason. I've got no dog in the fight, no emotional ties whatsoever, and I get to see how other franchises handle the type of soap opera that seems to be more common by the day. Frankly, I find all of this rather amusing and I will probably continue to feel that way.........as long as Cutler doesn't end up in Cleveland.That's what I'm worried about. Brady Quinn strikes no fear in me at all, but if Cleveland got Cutler then I'd be just a little bit more nervous than usual about playing Cleveland. Quote
fattyjay Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 And add to that, what if Cleveland after acquiring Cutler doesn't take a defender at #5 and instead takes Crabtree to put opposite Edwards? That would be a little scary. Quote
Spor_tees Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 And add to that, what if Cleveland after acquiring Cutler doesn't take a defender at #5 and instead takes Crabtree to put opposite Edwards? That would be a little scary.Cleveland is going to need some kind of receiver...they traded Winslow...and now if Stallworth gets convicted he is going to jail. That leaves them with one good WR and Jurivicious coming back from a missed season. Not god news for whoever is the Brown's QB. Quote
BengalPimp Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 The way I see it, Cutler was only going to be moved if the Broncos were able to get Matt Cassell. I cant necessarily blame McDaniels for wanting a player who he knows, and played for him before. That said, Cassell is a Cheif and Cutler should shut his trap, because they arent going to trade him now. P.S. Dude, you're a professional athlete, you CANNOT expect to NEVER be involved in any type of trade rumor. It's part of the job. Somebody should tell this guy that players RARELY spend their entire career with the same team. Who really knows? Maybe they're scared his Diabetes might affect him in some way, maybe not now, but a few years down the line. Quote
HairOnFire Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 Cleveland is going to need some kind of receiver...they traded Winslow...and now if Stallworth gets convicted he is going to jail. That leaves them with one good WR and Jurivicious coming back from a missed season. Not god news for whoever is the Brown's QB. For those who missed it, Cleveland cut Joe Jurivicious(sp?) a couple of weeks ago. Furthermore, when Winslow was dealt it was reported by several sources that Braylon Edwards was also on the block. I'm pretty sure that idea went out the window along with whatever plans they might have had for Stallworth, but you do have to wonder if Braylon Edwards is still a factor in Clevelands long-term plans. Quote
whizzo Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 jurevicious gone, winslow gone, stallworth soon to be suspended, edwards being shopped... sounds like they've got a pretty big shortage at WR... might entice them to go for crabtree in the draft - orakpo would drop to us Quote
BengalByTheBay Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 *bump*Looks like Cutler may be out ... stay tuned. Pretty fun viewing. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 Cutler = B*tchI do agree that its at least nice to have another team experiencing more drama than our team is... Quote
derekshank Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 Cutler = B*tchI do agree that its at least nice to have another team experiencing more drama than our team is...On NFL Live today, Cutler was the opening and closing story... but in the middle the talk was Sanchez. All the analysts agreed that if he gets past Seattle, that a team will likely be looking to trade past Jacksonville to get him.Good news for the Bengals possibly? Quote
Kazkal Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 Hope so I think 12 would be perfect spot for maybe a Maualuga ? if the bills don't jump on him. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 Cutler = B*tchI do agree that its at least nice to have another team experiencing more drama than our team is...On NFL Live today, Cutler was the opening and closing story... but in the middle the talk was Sanchez. All the analysts agreed that if he gets past Seattle, that a team will likely be looking to trade past Jacksonville to get him.Good news for the Bengals possibly?I was about to post that in another thread and then thought that both QB's would almost certainly mean either J. Smith or Monroe will fall to us at #6 and it would be to difficult to see the Bengals trade away the chance to take one of those two. Quote
HairOnFire Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 Bears Give Up Big Package For CutlerPosted by Mike Florio on April 2, 2009, 5:20 p.m. Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com reports that the Chicago Bears have sent two first-round picks, a third-round pick, and quarterback Kyle Orton to the Broncos for quarterback Jay Cutler and a fifth-round draft pick. Quote
BengalPimp Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 Bears Give Up Big Package For CutlerPosted by Mike Florio on April 2, 2009, 5:20 p.m. Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com reports that the Chicago Bears have sent two first-round picks, a third-round pick, and quarterback Kyle Orton to the Broncos for quarterback Jay Cutler and a fifth-round draft pick.Apparently it was a 1st & 3rd this year and the 2010 1st rd pick along with Kyle Orton. Seems like they gave up an awful lot....but they're going to be tough this season....real tough with that D. Quote
derekshank Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 Cutler = B*tchI do agree that its at least nice to have another team experiencing more drama than our team is...On NFL Live today, Cutler was the opening and closing story... but in the middle the talk was Sanchez. All the analysts agreed that if he gets past Seattle, that a team will likely be looking to trade past Jacksonville to get him.Good news for the Bengals possibly?I was about to post that in another thread and then thought that both QB's would almost certainly mean either J. Smith or Monroe will fall to us at #6 and it would be to difficult to see the Bengals trade away the chance to take one of those two.The draft really seems to be falling the Bengals way. 1 of 2 things will happen. Either one of the 2 top OT's will be there... and they nab him, or Sanchez is available, and someone (like the Broncos) wants to trade up to get him.Of course option C is that the neither OT is available, the Bengals ignore all trade offers, and reach for a LS or Punter. Quote
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