Whur CHad At? Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Guys, there are still a lot of old farts still out there available for the picking! They will come at the cheapest price and make little to no impact! Just what we need!What about :WR Marty Booker- He is old, slow and can make no impact! Who needs Coles!?!OT Wayne Gandy-I think he is 37, so perfect!!!!!!!!!!DT Keith Traylor- I think he is almost 40C Mike Flynn-Mid to Late 30'sC Mike Flannagan- Lates 30'sCome on, screw these young guys lets go OLD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baraka Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 lame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Actually, we do need an older very experienced center to groom the rookie center we'll draft, so bring on the long-in-the-tooth centers, please - as long as they are willing to play for vet min **and** to fill the mentor role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat1975 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 ok I admit I chuckled a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vettespd20 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 UM ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icehole3 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Flynn and Flannigan are light years ahead of Girlcheck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Actually, we do need an older very experienced center to groom the rookie center we'll draft, so bring on the long-in-the-tooth centers, please - as long as they are willing to play for vet min **and** to fill the mentor role Wait for it. It'll be Ghiacuic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Actually, we do need an older very experienced center to groom the rookie center we'll draft, so bring on the long-in-the-tooth centers, please - as long as they are willing to play for vet min **and** to fill the mentor roleWait for it. It'll be Ghiacuic.Sadly at this point, I wouldn't be in the least bit suprised... The rookie would be starting by game 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 If a new center, vet or rook, comes in here and can't unseat Guychick -- you might as well cut them on the spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 If a new center, vet or rook, comes in here and can't unseat Guychick -- you might as well cut them on the spotThen EVERYONE should be ALL OVER taking the top Center prospect that could be sitting there in the 2nd without thought.They will go very quickly after we pick in the 2nd !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 If a new center, vet or rook, comes in here and can't unseat Guychick -- you might as well cut them on the spotThen EVERYONE should be ALL OVER taking the top Center prospect that could be sitting there in the 2nd without thought.They will go very quickly after we pick in the 2nd !!!That's why I don't like the idea of not addressing the Center position prior to the draft. It locks you in to a position. Suppose the guy the Bengals want it already gone. They are still forced to address the position and will probably have to reach... and that's not how you build through the draft. Go sign Duke Preston freeing up options in the draft and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 If a new center, vet or rook, comes in here and can't unseat Guychick -- you might as well cut them on the spotThen EVERYONE should be ALL OVER taking the top Center prospect that could be sitting there in the 2nd without thought.They will go very quickly after we pick in the 2nd !!!That's why I don't like the idea of not addressing the Center position prior to the draft. It locks you in to a position. Suppose the guy the Bengals want it already gone. They are still forced to address the position and will probably have to reach... and that's not how you build through the draft. Go sign Duke Preston freeing up options in the draft and call it a day.Don't get me wrong here Derek, I've been ALL about getting a vet Center in here. That's why I was going on and on about Brown (They could have gotten him). Birk was an option, but wanted nothing to do with the Bengals. Hell even Jake Grove could have been the stop gap we needed, but he a Dolphin now. The remainder of the guys are sadly no better than Ghiaciuc and with that being the case (I will admit maybe it's not) the Center position needs to be addressed early. I'm honestly not to familiar with Preston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 If a new center, vet or rook, comes in here and can't unseat Guychick -- you might as well cut them on the spotThen EVERYONE should be ALL OVER taking the top Center prospect that could be sitting there in the 2nd without thought.They will go very quickly after we pick in the 2nd !!!That's why I don't like the idea of not addressing the Center position prior to the draft. It locks you in to a position. Suppose the guy the Bengals want it already gone. They are still forced to address the position and will probably have to reach... and that's not how you build through the draft. Go sign Duke Preston freeing up options in the draft and call it a day.Don't get me wrong here Derek, I've been ALL about getting a vet Center in here. That's why I was going on and on about Brown (They could have gotten him). Birk was an option, but wanted nothing to do with the Bengals. Hell even Jake Grove could have been the stop gap we needed, but he a Dolphin now. The remainder of the guys are sadly no better than Ghiaciuc and with that being the case (I will admit maybe it's not) the Center position needs to be addressed early. I'm honestly not to familiar with Preston.Preston is a good run blocker who weighs 326 lbs, and thus would probably fare better against NT's than Ghiaciuc. He's not a pro-bowler by any stretch... but he's an upgrade. Most importantly in my mind he doesn't force the Bengals hand in the draft. They could still draft a C in the 2nd round if the guy they want is there, and Preston should be able to help develop him. If not, they're not forced to reach because of not having a starter on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walzav29 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I haven't heard anything about Guichec. Are they even talking to him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Preston is a good run blocker who weighs 326 lbs, and thus would probably fare better against NT's than Ghiaciuc. He's not a pro-bowler by any stretch... but he's an upgrade. Most importantly in my mind he doesn't force the Bengals hand in the draft. They could still draft a C in the 2nd round if the guy they want is there, and Preston should be able to help develop him. If not, they're not forced to reach because of not having a starter on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Isn't Preston the guy that got into the fight during a game last year while the team was lining up for the field goal? He's a good player. though. The Bills signed Hangartner to replace him.Could be. Maybe he and Whitworth could get together and remove John Henderson's eyeballs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat1975 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 If a new center, vet or rook, comes in here and can't unseat Guychick -- you might as well cut them on the spotNot necessarily.The Center for the Bengals calls out assignments to the rest of the line. They tried giving that responsibility to Palmer but it was just too much for him at the time. Braham was a master at this. He got pushed back as much as Guicheic, but made up for it by calling a solid blitz game. The knowledge of how to call a good game as a Center in the NFL only comes from experience. I could see Guicheic becoming a pretty good one if that lightbulb ever comes on for him. Braham was a converted guard as many here remember. It wasn't until late in his career that he really came into his own.But as of now it has not for Eric Guichaiechaeiouc. He still would be light years ahead of any rookie though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 C. Trent says ex-Bronco RT George Foster is, has, or will soon visit the Bengals. Foster was with the Lions last season, but played sparingly and by some accounts badly. Bengal fans will remember him not so fondly for the low block that took out Tony Williams. That said...George Foster | OT Complete player profile Full Name: George A. FosterBorn: June 9, 1980Macon, GAHeight: 6-5Weight: 338 lbs. Age: 28Pos: OTExperience: 6 yearsCollege: GeorgiaDrafted: Year:2003 Round:1 Pick:20, Broncos Insider Analysis Grade 59 Expert's Take Foster is coming off his sixth year in the league and was only active for four games. He was injured most of the year, which hindered his progress as an NFL lineman. He has great size with above-average strength and athleticism. He has long arms and solid initial quickness to keep defenders at bay, but is inconsistent to play with good pad level and knee bend. He tends to overextend at times and get out of position because he is too aggressive. He hasn't improved as rapidly as most would have hoped. He has good natural power, once engaged, but is not initially explosive off the line of scrimmage. Foster has been a bit of a disappointment thus far, but has the tools to be a productive player in the league, if he can continue to develop his technique and consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baraka Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 looks like a RT to me. hopefully alexander can coach him up, if this comes to fruition. he's still young and has a good name for the nati. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Unfortunately, our OLine coach would have coached Munoz into becoming an average player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 C. Trent says ex-Bronco RT George Foster is, has, or will soon visit the Bengals. Foster was with the Lions last season, but played sparingly and by some accounts badly. Bengal fans will remember him not so fondly for the low block that took out Tony Williams. That said...George Foster | OT Complete player profile Full Name: George A. FosterBorn: June 9, 1980Macon, GAHeight: 6-5Weight: 338 lbs. Age: 28Pos: OTExperience: 6 yearsCollege: GeorgiaDrafted: Year:2003 Round:1 Pick:20, Broncos Insider Analysis Grade 59 Expert's Take Foster is coming off his sixth year in the league and was only active for four games. He was injured most of the year, which hindered his progress as an NFL lineman. He has great size with above-average strength and athleticism. He has long arms and solid initial quickness to keep defenders at bay, but is inconsistent to play with good pad level and knee bend. He tends to overextend at times and get out of position because he is too aggressive. He hasn't improved as rapidly as most would have hoped. He has good natural power, once engaged, but is not initially explosive off the line of scrimmage. Foster has been a bit of a disappointment thus far, but has the tools to be a productive player in the league, if he can continue to develop his technique and consistency.Sounds like Stacy "The Franchise" Andrews to me. That could easily be the Andre Smith scouting report in 2013, too. Bring him in. Maybe our O-line guru can coach him up. Aren't we using that Denver zone-blocking scheme now? He might end up being a decent backup here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Aren't we using that Denver zone-blocking scheme now? He might end up being a decent backup here. If I remember correctly one of the criticisms made after Foster was traded to Detroit had to do with him being a poor fit in anything but a zone blocking scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackwoods Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Unfortunately, our OLine coach would have coached Munoz into becoming an average playerWe should bring in the HOF to be our Oline coach! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baraka Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 paul alexander has always been known as one of the best o-line coaches in the league. he's had two years now where he's been given garbage and all of a sudden he becomes the scapegoat. sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 paul alexander has always been known as one of the best o-line coaches in the league. he's had two years now where he's been given garbage and all of a sudden he becomes the scapegoat. sad.I'll give Whitworth and Collins a call, let them know you think they are garbage, see what proceeds from thereand no, Paul Alexander is not known as such. Unless by "always" you really meant "never". Then yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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