derekshank Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Not impressive times from Beanie Wells. A bit surprising. I read that he also looked a little rigid in positional drills, and his hands were just OK. It will be interesting to see if this hurts his stock significantly. The fears that Mike Brown will take him in the first are subsiding... but will he be able to resist taking him if he's there in the 2nd? My guess is no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Wells in the 2nd I could live with simply because he wasn't taken in the firstI heard everett Brown was only 6'1? seems like Orakpo for sure be first end taken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 I'll tell you what.....Brian Orakpo running a 4.63 and 260+ pounds might've put him in at #6. They talking him up pretty good on the NFL Network, too. I wasn't too high on this guy, but you can't deny that he has rare athleticism and good college production.Maybin looks good, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Conner Barwin just made himself a ton of cash. Ran a 4.66 forty with a 40-inch vertical and a 10-8 broad jump. I'd be really happy with him in the 2nd round.Plus, he's an Adam Sandler look-a-like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 I'll tell you what.....Brian Orakpo running a 4.63 and 260+ pounds might've put him in at #6. They talking him up pretty good on the NFL Network, too. I wasn't too high on this guy, but you can't deny that he has rare athleticism and good college production. So is it safe to resume talking about Orakpo at #6? Because I didn't get much support for the idea when I brought it up months ago. Until somebody steps up and proves they're better....he's still my guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Orakpo woulld be a terrific pick. Would prefer Raji, but hell I don't think you can go wrong with either one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Yeah, I'd be happy with either one. I think Raji in the 1st and Barwin in the 2nd could make our defense dominant. Sign Brown and get Benson in the fold prior to the draft and we're talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Bengals met with S Rashad Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Bengals met with S Rashad JohnsonGood stuff. He's certainly a playmaker but a bit thin for S, you might think.I really liked him at the Senior Bowl. I find it slightly odd that the Bengals are looking at FS types. Marv spoke highly of Lynch and I would think they would like to have Crocker back to start at FS. Maybe the Bengals have other plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Zimmer said he wants a cover safety. Johnson had 11 picks in two seasons. Don't be too suprised if he is our third round pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Bengals met with S Rashad Johnson Well, he fits the profile of the hybrid FS/CB Lewis is always talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackwoods Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Why is mack falling though I saw NFLDraftcountdown have unger go first even though they had mack higher rated....Even if we signed Jason Brown I would be up for taking Mack and putting him at LG...then you have a very capable center backup.PS,agreed Army bring in Mack!If we sign Jason Brown and then draft Mack, we will be moving Brown to Guard (He is going to command guard money and he played 06 and 07 at guard for the Ravens)It is a good year for us to have an issue at center because the draft and FA is very deep at center. We have six to choose from between Brown, Birk, Saturday, Mack, Unger, and Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackwoods Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Jason Cook, TE, South CarolinaWOW6'5'', 245 pounds and ran a 4.50 forty, 10-3 broad jump, 41 inch vertical and 23 reps in the bench press. Had more bench press reps than Oher and Monroe and will run a faster 40 than a lot of the WR's tomorrow. Only Vernon Davis has run a faster 40 amongst TE's in the last 10 years. The questions are is he a football player or workout warrior and would the Bengals even look at this guy in round 2? Unbelievable performance, nonetheless.Those are solid numbers, but their is NO WAY IN HELL we draft him in round 2. Their is way to many needs on this team and they have 3 mil a year invested in Utech who should have a solid rebound year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackwoods Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 maclin didn't run as fast i was hoping, still a pretty solid 4.40, but i thought he would be low to mid 4.3. at 6'2 199 heywood-bey probably made him self some money running a 4.32.other notables from a size/ speed perspective:hakeem nicks- 6'1 212 4.49marko mitchell- 6'4 218 4.48kenny britt- 6'3 218 4.48louis murphy- 6'2 203 4.33Gotta put Johnny Knox in that group, too. He measured around 6'0'' and 199 and ran the 2nd fastest forty in the last decade at the combine.What combine are you watching? He ran a 4.34 which is the third fastest among WR's in this draft and he is slightly under 6 foot. http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/combine/wr.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackwoods Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 I'll tell you what.....Brian Orakpo running a 4.63 and 260+ pounds might've put him in at #6. They talking him up pretty good on the NFL Network, too. I wasn't too high on this guy, but you can't deny that he has rare athleticism and good college production. So is it safe to resume talking about Orakpo at #6? Because I didn't get much support for the idea when I brought it up months ago. Until somebody steps up and proves they're better....he's still my guy.I am with you, I was a little dissapointed that he only pushed 225 up 31 times (Which is good, but not for his workout hype) He looked great prior to getting hurt and he had a great attitude. If Curry, Smith, and Monroe are gone I think he should be our pick. He isn't Gholston which is what some people may fear in him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 I'll tell you what.....Brian Orakpo running a 4.63 and 260+ pounds might've put him in at #6. They talking him up pretty good on the NFL Network, too. I wasn't too high on this guy, but you can't deny that he has rare athleticism and good college production. So is it safe to resume talking about Orakpo at #6? Because I didn't get much support for the idea when I brought it up months ago. Until somebody steps up and proves they're better....he's still my guy.Feel free hair gogo Orakpo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 If Curry, Smith, and Monroe are gone I think he should be our pick. I'm betting Curry and Jason Smith off the board at #6. And FWIW, I'd take Orakpo over Monroe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 If Curry, Smith, and Monroe are gone I think he should be our pick. I'm betting Curry and Jason Smith off the board at #6. And FWIW, I'd take Orakpo over Monroe.How do you feel about Orakpo versus Aaron Maybin. I think Maybin is going to be an incredible pash rusher but Orakpo probably gives you more in the run game. Maybin at 249 pounds ran just as fast as Orakpo and could easily gain more weight under an NFL program. He's a Merriman type player, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 I have always considered Orakpo to be one of the true blue chippers in this draft. Maybin, not even close. But Maybin has the one thing that will tempt every NFL team to lose it's collective heads. That being, the best first step in the entire draft. It's rare stuff and by itself gives Maybin almost unlimited upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Maybin ran a 4.88 at 236 pounds at the Combine, according to what I have readSo.....uhm......just no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 He measured in at 6'4'', 249 pounds and had bulked up 16 pounds since the end of the season. He was also the top performer in the vertical jump, broad jump and 20-yard shuttle (which is a better indicator of short speed and explosiveness, IMO). His unofficial time according to multiple sources was around 4.78. Throughout the combine, it looks like the electronic times were slower than their unofficial times and Maybin ran a 4.57 on campus last season. I think he's the player shooting up draft boards the fastest, along with Connor Barwin. Here's a decent video on him, from Todd McShay:http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3919153&a...egoryid=2459789 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baraka Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 He measured in at 6'4'', 249 pounds and had bulked up 16 pounds since the end of the season. He was also the top performer in the vertical jump, broad jump and 20-yard shuttle (which is a better indicator of short speed and explosiveness, IMO). His unofficial time according to multiple sources was around 4.78. Throughout the combine, it looks like the electronic times were slower than their unofficial times and Maybin ran a 4.57 on campus last season. I think he's the player shooting up draft boards the fastest, along with Connor Barwin. Here's a decent video on him, from Todd McShay:http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3919153&a...egoryid=2459789i like maybin and brown better than orakpo. orakpo just seems a bit stiff and from what i've seen only has a bull rush, that works in college but i'm afraid it'll get stuffed in the nfl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 He measured in at 6'4'', 249 pounds and had bulked up 16 pounds since the end of the season. He was also the top performer in the vertical jump, broad jump and 20-yard shuttle (which is a better indicator of short speed and explosiveness, IMO). His unofficial time according to multiple sources was around 4.78. Throughout the combine, it looks like the electronic times were slower than their unofficial times and Maybin ran a 4.57 on campus last season. I think he's the player shooting up draft boards the fastest, along with Connor Barwin. Here's a decent video on him, from Todd McShay:http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3919153&a...egoryid=2459789i like maybin and brown better than orakpo. orakpo just seems a bit stiff and from what i've seen only has a bull rush, that works in college but i'm afraid it'll get stuffed in the nfl.Don't get me wrong, Orakpo is far from the worst the Bengals could do with the #6 pick. I think I'd even be OK with it. It just seems like Orakpo is similar to 2 players we already have on the roster in Geathers and Odom. We need a guy with quickness and explosion to get around the huge OT's in our division. Maybin could come in right away and be a factor with his speed and quickness on 3rd downs and take over for Jeanty as a starter in year 2. Rivers and Maybin on the outside would give us one of the most athletic pair of OLB's in the league. I'll also agree that Rak looks a little stiff and Maybin is clearly the better athlete, although he might not have the functional strength of Rak. Maybin is probably going to be in the 260 range at LB before it's done (the guy looks like a slim TE), while Orakpo really doesn't have the frame to get much bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baraka Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 i agree with the rak pick not being a total disaster, but if maybin can get to 255-260 range, look-out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 See what I mean? Given the chance you guys will quickly talk yourself out of a 3-down DE who could easily make the switch to OLB in favor of smaller vastly rawer but a more athletic tweener type. And at #6 no less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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