Marvin and the Senior Bowl

[HAPPYJAQ]

Just watched The NFL Network's coverage of the Senior Bowl and they had an interview with Marvin, coaching the North this year. I went back and looked at the rosters he coached the last time he was in Mobile in '04 and wondered about all the players that he had a first-hand look at that we missed:

Michael Turner, RB, N. Illinois

Chris Cooley,TE, Utah State

Nick Hardwick, C, Purdue

Shane Olivea, OG, Ohio State

Travis LaBoy, DE, Hawaii

Shaun Phillips, DE, Purdue

Demorrio Williams, LB, Nebraska

Bob Sanders, S, Iowa

Nate Kaeding, K, Iowa

.....and this was just on the North Squad. Guys who have had decent to great careers so far and were mid-round picks, with the exception of Sanders, who was a 2nd round pick, I believe. Also in Mobile that year on the South squad were:

Philip Rivers, QB, NC State

Matt Schaub, QB, Virginia

Greg Jones, RB, Florida State

Mewelde Moore, RB, Tulana

Jerricho Cotchery, WR, New York Giants

Devery Henderson, WR, LSU

Ben Watson, TE, Georgia

Jaks Grove, C, Virginia Tech

Sean Lockhlear, OT, NC State

Darnell Dockett, DT, Florida State

Tommy Kelly, DT, Mississippi St.

Dontarrious Thomas, LB, Auburn

Nathan Vasher, CB, Texas

We did manage to add Madieu Williams, Keiwan Ratliff and Greg Brooks (all on the South squad) through the draft and Kyle Larson and Ronnie Ghent is UDFA's. Two of those players (Williams and Ratliff) were called "reaches" at the point in which they were drafted, indicated that the Bengals felt they had a better read on those players that the draft analysts did. Clearly, the Senior Bowl is a great opportunity to evaluate talent but the Bengals obviously missed out on a lot of good players that could've been helping the team right now. We basically the same coaching staff in tact, I hope that the Bengals do a better job of scouting players this time around.

[HAPPYJAQ]

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...rosters2004.htm

[AMC]

Well considering the Bengals had 100 picks that year, your theory holds true.

[BengalByTheBay]

Well considering the Bengals had 100 picks that year, your theory holds true.

NICE! Exactly what I was thinking....everybody's a genius after the fact.

[GregCook]

Well considering the Bengals had 100 picks that year, your theory holds true.

NICE! Exactly what I was thinking....everybody's a genius after the fact.

Doesn't matter whether he coached the Senior Bowl or not, his drafts have be mediocre at best, lousy otherwise. See 2005 in comparison to 2004 for lousy drafts. That is the main reason this team has been falling apart since 11-5 in 2005 IMHO. Not enough impact players from his drafts.

[TJJackson]

errr.....we drafted Two Carry in r1 in 2004.

sucked.

[Kazkal]

Ya but can't fault coaching him at senior bowl for that didn't 2carryperry have 0 injury problems before coming here? maybe it's our staff :|

[Bearcat1975]

Ya but can't fault coaching him at senior bowl for that didn't 2carryperry have 0 injury problems before coming here? maybe it's our staff :|

You get what you pay for.

How many years in a row will the Bengals have that "darn bad luck" with the injury bug.

Agreed that Marvin's drafts have been about a poor as I have ever seen.

Maybe if he had the resources, he would have a chance. Marvin didn't do a very good job painting Mike Brown's office either, so don't be too hard on him. He's stretched pretty thin.