kevinc1129 Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 ESPN is reporting that the Reds sent Adam Dunn to Arizona for three prospects.http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3529966 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwalling Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Hmm... Griffey's gone, so is David Ross, Homer's back in L'ville (where he belongs). Do we really have a chance of letting Votto, Bruce, Phillips, Edwin, and Keppinger develop? We could add some professional hitters with more contact and less strike outs to the outfield through free agency and some more pitching depth and actually look like a professional baseball team next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 The days of the Reds being a contender each year have come and gone. Every team has some guys with big contracts but now the Reds highest paid player is a pitcher that is having a down year and a second basemen that is also having a down year. Is it something in the water? Why is it that as soon as a Reds player gets a big contract he goes down the crapper? Well now next year we get to look forward to a team with 3 semi star players and a bunch of role players. Yippee! Is it too early to look forward to the 2010 season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 I haven't been a big Dunn fan for a couple years now as I got tired of always hearing how he really prepared prior to the start of the season and then when the season began, you would never have known it... That being said, how do you replace his numbers in this lineup ?? I've been saying this whole season how I couldn't understand how the Reds weren't putting runs on the board with this lineup and now you take Dunn out of the mix. The youngsters that everyone has been claiming will be the next big thing haven't impressed enough for me to be that excited.The pitching is still ridiculous and our big off season pick up in Cordero has not really helped to the extent I'm sure the organization had intended when they paid him all that cash. While some still contend that this season wasn't going to be the Reds year, as it would serve to set up next season, I would argue that the lack of development will not make next year any more appealing than this year. This club still needs some serious help before anyone could call them a contender.Bottomline up front: The Reds suck !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickey44 Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 How did they even trade him? I thought the trade deadline was a week ago or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Prior to the deadline, I lobbied lazily for the Reds to deal one of their two big trade items -- Griffey or Dunn. I was worried they'd get rid of both, because the result as I see it would be the worst offensive team in the division, short of maybe Pittsburgh. It happened, so hopefully I was incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc1129 Posted August 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 How did they even trade him? I thought the trade deadline was a week ago or so.If a player clears waivers without another team claiming him, he can still be traded after the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickey44 Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Wow, how did he clear waivers? Why wouldn't the Dbacks just get him that way instead of trading for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 The bottom line is this, The REDS are better off without the dead weight of Dunn in left field. We're better off without these two guys. Dunn is horrible. Yeah he hits bombs 40 times a year, so what, he has the most strike outs too. Dunn wasn't worth the time. Griffey's done, he's way past his prime.Things would've looked a lot better with Hamilton still in the lineup, but look who we got. Volquez got his 14th win yesterday. I think we're heading in the right direction. David Ross was garbage too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGrizzlyBaer Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Wow, how did he clear waivers? Why wouldn't the Dbacks just get him that way instead of trading for him?if you claim a waiver you have 2 days to work out a trade or else the player stays on his original team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 The bottom line is this, The REDS are better off without the dead weight of Dunn in left field. We're better off without these two guys. Dunn is horrible. Yeah he hits bombs 40 times a year, so what, he has the most strike outs too. Dunn wasn't worth the time. Griffey's done, he's way past his prime.Things would've looked a lot better with Hamilton still in the lineup, but look who we got. Volquez got his 14th win yesterday. I think we're heading in the right direction. David Ross was garbage too.You obviously don't follow baseball very much. Sure Dunn strikes out and he isn't great in the field, BUT he hits 40 homers per year and is only behind A-Rod for most homeruns since 2004. On top of that he knocks in 100 runs, scores 100 runs, and walks 100 times each year. How about this little information nugget, Dunn's career on base percentage (which I think is a million times more important that batting average) is higher than.....Pete Rose's career on base percentage. Yeah that's right, higher than the all-time hit king. There is no player on the roster nor available as a free agent, that is going to fill in for Dunn's numbers. Hopefully the rumor is true and the Reds do get Micah Owens as part of this deal...If they do, that will prolly spell the end of Homer Baily as a starter. With Homer's fastball, he will probably end up in the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickey44 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Wow, how did he clear waivers? Why wouldn't the Dbacks just get him that way instead of trading for him?if you claim a waiver you have 2 days to work out a trade or else the player stays on his original team.Never knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 The bottom line is this, The REDS are better off without the dead weight of Dunn in left field. We're better off without these two guys. Dunn is horrible. Yeah he hits bombs 40 times a year, so what, he has the most strike outs too. Dunn wasn't worth the time. Griffey's done, he's way past his prime.Things would've looked a lot better with Hamilton still in the lineup, but look who we got. Volquez got his 14th win yesterday. I think we're heading in the right direction. David Ross was garbage too.You obviously don't follow baseball very much. Sure Dunn strikes out and he isn't great in the field, BUT he hits 40 homers per year and is only behind A-Rod for most homeruns since 2004. On top of that he knocks in 100 runs, scores 100 runs, and walks 100 times each year. How about this little information nugget, Dunn's career on base percentage (which I think is a million times more important that batting average) is higher than.....Pete Rose's career on base percentage. Yeah that's right, higher than the all-time hit king. There is no player on the roster nor available as a free agent, that is going to fill in for Dunn's numbers. Hopefully the rumor is true and the Reds do get Micah Owens as part of this deal...If they do, that will prolly spell the end of Homer Baily as a starter. With Homer's fastball, he will probably end up in the bullpen.Dunn's garbage, bottom line. He hits HR's. Most winning teams can't have the lack of ability in left field... Pete Rose didn't use steroids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 The bottom line is this, The REDS are better off without the dead weight of Dunn in left field. We're better off without these two guys. Dunn is horrible. Yeah he hits bombs 40 times a year, so what, he has the most strike outs too. Dunn wasn't worth the time. Griffey's done, he's way past his prime.Things would've looked a lot better with Hamilton still in the lineup, but look who we got. Volquez got his 14th win yesterday. I think we're heading in the right direction. David Ross was garbage too.You obviously don't follow baseball very much. Sure Dunn strikes out and he isn't great in the field, BUT he hits 40 homers per year and is only behind A-Rod for most homeruns since 2004. On top of that he knocks in 100 runs, scores 100 runs, and walks 100 times each year. How about this little information nugget, Dunn's career on base percentage (which I think is a million times more important that batting average) is higher than.....Pete Rose's career on base percentage. Yeah that's right, higher than the all-time hit king. There is no player on the roster nor available as a free agent, that is going to fill in for Dunn's numbers. Hopefully the rumor is true and the Reds do get Micah Owens as part of this deal...If they do, that will prolly spell the end of Homer Baily as a starter. With Homer's fastball, he will probably end up in the bullpen.Dunn's garbage, bottom line. He hits HR's. Most winning teams can't have the lack of ability in left field... Pete Rose didn't use steroids.IMO Dunn isnt on roids, he is just a big, almost fat dude with exceptional bat speed that allows him to hit the ball a country mile when he connects. Dave Kingman JR. He is not garbage when the hitters in front of him produce, but when most of his HR's come with no one on base he is not as valuable. He seems to have helped the D-backs so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 The bottom line is this, The REDS are better off without the dead weight of Dunn in left field. We're better off without these two guys. Dunn is horrible. Yeah he hits bombs 40 times a year, so what, he has the most strike outs too. Dunn wasn't worth the time. Griffey's done, he's way past his prime.Things would've looked a lot better with Hamilton still in the lineup, but look who we got. Volquez got his 14th win yesterday. I think we're heading in the right direction. David Ross was garbage too.You obviously don't follow baseball very much. Sure Dunn strikes out and he isn't great in the field, BUT he hits 40 homers per year and is only behind A-Rod for most homeruns since 2004. On top of that he knocks in 100 runs, scores 100 runs, and walks 100 times each year. How about this little information nugget, Dunn's career on base percentage (which I think is a million times more important that batting average) is higher than.....Pete Rose's career on base percentage. Yeah that's right, higher than the all-time hit king. There is no player on the roster nor available as a free agent, that is going to fill in for Dunn's numbers. Hopefully the rumor is true and the Reds do get Micah Owens as part of this deal...If they do, that will prolly spell the end of Homer Baily as a starter. With Homer's fastball, he will probably end up in the bullpen.Dunn's garbage, bottom line. He hits HR's. Most winning teams can't have the lack of ability in left field... Pete Rose didn't use steroids.Your ignorance multiplies with each post. On Base Percentage has zilch, zero, nadda to do with homeruns and power. Just to show you a few examples...I would write them in crayon for you if this wasn't on the computer.Mark McGwire career .394 OBPCecil Fielder career .345 OBPDave Kingman career .302 OBPBarry Bonds career .444 OBPPete Rose career .375 OBPAlbert Pujols career .424 OBPAlex Rodriguez career .389 OBPCal Ripken Jr career .340 OBPSammy Sosa career .344 OBPHank Aaron career .374 OBPBabe Ruth career career .474 OBP *WoW!@Adam Dunn career .381 OBPDunn is higher than Pete Rose, Cal Ripken Jr., Sammy Sosa, and Hank Aaron...all Hall of Famers or should be in the Hall guys. How some of you guys can knock this guy is beyond me. Sadly if he does end up with a Hall of Fame career, he will probably go into the hall wearing the jersey of another team in which he found success with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickey44 Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 I was all for getting rid of Griffey, but not Dunn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 I know Dunn was on roids for a FACT, I'm not sure if he still is... Some chick I know hangs out and bangs him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 I know Dunn was on roids for a FACT, I'm not sure if he still is... Some chick I know hangs out and bangs him.Yep and I know for a fact that Barrack Obama is a member of Al-Queda I have a friend that bangs his head of security.... Dunn has been big and donkey strong since High School...he played TE and QB in college at Texas. If you would have said he did roids back in the 80's yeah maybe...but the way things are now, not a chance. Take that argument somewhere else because it's garbage. So how come you aren't arguing the facts about Dunn and instead just jumped on the "he's on roids" rant? Fact is he is a producer and the Reds made a huge mistake by not resigning him. They simply can not replace a guy that puts up the stats he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 I know Dunn was on roids for a FACT, I'm not sure if he still is... Some chick I know hangs out and bangs him.Yep and I know for a fact that Barrack Obama is a member of Al-Queda I have a friend that bangs his head of security.... Dunn has been big and donkey strong since High School...he played TE and QB in college at Texas. If you would have said he did roids back in the 80's yeah maybe...but the way things are now, not a chance. Take that argument somewhere else because it's garbage. So how come you aren't arguing the facts about Dunn and instead just jumped on the "he's on roids" rant? Fact is he is a producer and the Reds made a huge mistake by not resigning him. They simply can not replace a guy that puts up the stats he does.I was hoping they would get something a little better for him but was ready for him to not be on the team, and find it strange that he did not end up in the AL as a DH. I also find it strange that after so many less than stellar defensive plays that anyone would still support him as a feilder. He is a very good hitter and RBI man and would make a great DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 I know Dunn was on roids for a FACT, I'm not sure if he still is... Some chick I know hangs out and bangs him.Yep and I know for a fact that Barrack Obama is a member of Al-Queda I have a friend that bangs his head of security.... Dunn has been big and donkey strong since High School...he played TE and QB in college at Texas. If you would have said he did roids back in the 80's yeah maybe...but the way things are now, not a chance. Take that argument somewhere else because it's garbage. So how come you aren't arguing the facts about Dunn and instead just jumped on the "he's on roids" rant? Fact is he is a producer and the Reds made a huge mistake by not resigning him. They simply can not replace a guy that puts up the stats he does.I'm not the type of person to just make up lies... Roids are still being used in MLB. Anyway, you say he's a producer? His average for the month of August is........... .192!!! He's hit 2 HR's, 9 RBI's, 28 Strike Outs. His strike out % is .359... The only FACT about Dunn is that he is WAY overrated. He may hit 40 Hr's a season, but they do not come consitantly with hits. He goes on streaks. Other than hitting 40 hr's and getting 100 rbi's when they matter the least, he's horrible in the outfield... The Reds are better without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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