Did anybody else question 2-pt. conversion?

[BengalByTheBay]

Okay, the Bengals give up a TD on the last play of regulation. With no time on the clock, the extra point pending, the score is 38 - 29. So, what do the Jets do? They go for a 2 point conversion that can have no possible impact on their record.

From what I saw, the line on this game was always at 6 or 6.5 in Bengals favor. So, it shouldn't have any impact on the line either right? I mean who cares if they lose by 7 or 8? Which is exactly the point. Why go for 2? Unless somewhere Louie the Thumb teased an extra point in there to take the Jets with the points.

I know, I know, who the hell cares? It just seems incredibly odd to me that any team would go for a 2 point conversion under those circumstances. It definitely makes me go hmmmmmmmm, when it's that close to the line on the game.

(Disclosure: I took the over, so it doesn't affect my wallet one way or the other -- just curious if anybody else smells a rat.)

[Stripes]

Shallow moral victory.

[BengalByTheBay]

Shallow moral victory.

So it had nothing to do with the point spread at all? Okay....maybe it is just me.

[F.Cleveland]

The only thing I can think of is that the game can't end on a defensive penalty and if we fouled them then maybe we would have had to return a kickoff.... But that is probably wrong!

[BengalByTheBay]

The only thing I can think of is that the game can't end on a defensive penalty and if we fouled them then maybe we would have had to return a kickoff.... But that is probably wrong!

I'm pretty sure that a defensive penalty on a 2-pt. conversion would place the ball 1/2 the distance to the goal line and allow the attempt to be repeated. If they scored and there was a penalty, they would be able to take the penalty or decline and take the 2 points. I'm not sure how there could be another play after that with 0.0 on the clock.

BTW - I know this is a completely academic question to begin with. I was in Vegas for the games this weekend though and it got me thinking. It so happens that in college, if there is a TD with no time on the clock, the refs. don't even let the team attempt the conversion if it won't affect the game outcome (which I did not know until it happened on Saturday and I watched a guy who was 1 point away from pushing on the game completely lose it). That's why I was paying particular attention to this play (to see if the NFL rule is different from college -- which it obviously is) and was floored when they went for the 2. I mean, this is a team that plays its home games in New Jersey after all.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

It so happens that in college, if there is a TD with no time on the clock, the refs. don't even let the team attempt the conversion if it won't affect the game outcome (which I did not know until it happened on Saturday and I watched a guy who was 1 point away from pushing on the game completely lose it).

Oh man that's awesome. I'd have paid $10 just to see the look on his face when he realized he wasn't getting the point. I love casino sportsbooks.

[kenyon1977]

OK. They convert the two point conversion and then things get out of hand and a brawl ensues.

The Bengals being the home team could be removed from the game and forfeit.

No player, coach, or other person affiliated with a club may remove that club’s team from the field during the playing of any game, including preseason, except at the direction of the referee. Any club violating this rule will be subject to disciplinary action by the Commissioner, including possible game forfeiture and sole liability for financial losses suffered by the opposing club and any other affected member clubs of the League. [see Section 9.1 (E) of the NFL Constitution and Bylaws.]

[BengalByTheBay]

OK. They convert the two point conversion and then things get out of hand and a brawl ensues.

The Bengals being the home team could be removed from the game and forfeit.

No player, coach, or other person affiliated with a club may remove that club’s team from the field during the playing of any game, including preseason, except at the direction of the referee. Any club violating this rule will be subject to disciplinary action by the Commissioner, including possible game forfeiture and sole liability for financial losses suffered by the opposing club and any other affected member clubs of the League. [see Section 9.1 (E) of the NFL Constitution and Bylaws.]

That looks to me like either team could be removed from a game and forfeit -- wouldn't have to be a home team. I assume you're being ironic here because, to my knowledge, it's never happened.

In any event, I am obviously utterly alone in this inquiry.

[kayaker0678]

how about them just practiceing a two point conversion in a game type position for when it really counted.

[kayaker0678]

how about them just practiceing a two point conversion in a game type position for when it really counted.

[The PatternMaster]

Well Mangenius decided to stick with Pennington as his starter despite what the media and fans say. Part of his decision to stay with Chad was based on how he performed during that last meaningless drive, he said he like Chad's competitiveness or some bs.

[BengalByTheBay]

how about them just practiceing a two point conversion in a game type position for when it really counted.

I thought about that and it is the only semi-legitimate reason I could come up with. But it is week 7 after all and practicing 2 point conversions isn't really a priority for anybody...is it? This was the best possible reason I could think of as well though.

[BengalByTheBay]

Well Mangenius decided to stick with Pennington as his starter despite what the media and fans say. Part of his decision to stay with Chad was based on how he performed during that last meaningless drive, he said he like Chad's competitiveness or some bs.

I'm sure the Bills are pleased with that result too.

[Spor_tees]

OK. They convert the two point conversion and then things get out of hand and a brawl ensues.

The Bengals being the home team could be removed from the game and forfeit.

No player, coach, or other person affiliated with a club may remove that club’s team from the field during the playing of any game, including preseason, except at the direction of the referee. Any club violating this rule will be subject to disciplinary action by the Commissioner, including possible game forfeiture and sole liability for financial losses suffered by the opposing club and any other affected member clubs of the League. [see Section 9.1 (E) of the NFL Constitution and Bylaws.]

That looks to me like either team could be removed from a game and forfeit -- wouldn't have to be a home team. I assume you're being ironic here because, to my knowledge, it's never happened.

In any event, I am obviously utterly alone in this inquiry.

Actually the Bengals were almost to the point of having to forfeit a game before what eventually became the famous Sam Wyche "You don't live in Cleveland, you live in CINCINNATI!" speech. The fans were throwing snowballs and the refs had given the Bengals a warning that if it didn't stop they would be penalized 15 yards...then if it still continued, they would be forced to forfeit the game.

[mancunian]

how about them just practiceing a two point conversion in a game type position for when it really counted.

I thought about that and it is the only semi-legitimate reason I could come up with. But it is week 7 after all and practicing 2 point conversions isn't really a priority for anybody...is it? This was the best possible reason I could think of as well though.

but that now gives future opponents some game film on how they might run a 2pt conversion..

doesn't make sense - the only thing I thought was (like a previous poster) that if there was a penalty that allowed them a chance to return the kick.

[ckj414]

Actually the Bengals were almost to the point of having to forfeit a game before what eventually became the famous Sam Wyche "You don't live in Cleveland, you live in CINCINNATI!" speech. The fans were throwing snowballs and the refs had given the Bengals a warning that if it didn't stop they would be penalized 15 yards...then if it still continued, they would be forced to forfeit the game.

Ugh, I thought that only happened in New York or Philly.