agreen_112 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Why would anyone want a 360 with no HDTV? And why would anyone with a HDTV not want a PS3 (Bluray)? I mean, If I have a HDTV (I have 2) why wouldn't I want a PS3? I've always love playstation and I love HDTV. It's win-win... I'm just trying to be as unbias as possible, I guess most people that have 360's don't have HDTV's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson85 Posted March 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Why would anyone want a 360 with no HDTV? And why would anyone with a HDTV not want a PS3 (Bluray)? I mean, If I have a HDTV (I have 2) why wouldn't I want a PS3? I've always love playstation and I love HDTV. It's win-win... I'm just trying to be as unbias as possible, I guess most people that have 360's don't have HDTV's.And you don't even have to have a HDTV for either one, there are ways for them to be hooked up to computer monitors.see! And Blu-Ray just looks amazing. BTW its looking more and more like Blu-Ray will be the future media that replaces DVD. Since the release of the PS3 Blu-Ray is winning 3:1.http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=40300&page=30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 That's pretty sweet ^. Is that your setup? IF so, you have to be the ultimate geek, jk... I'd rather play on a bigger TV than a computer monitor, something that friends and I can play at the same time. I can't stand to sit at a computer desk and play video games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 I love how those with the Xbox are happy in their own little world while those with Play Stations go ape s**t about other people's preferences or likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson85 Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 That's pretty sweet ^. Is that your setup? IF so, you have to be the ultimate geek, jk... I'd rather play on a bigger TV than a computer monitor, something that friends and I can play at the same time. I can't stand to sit at a computer desk and play video games.No it's not mine. I know I would rather play on a bigger TV too, I was just showing everyone that it could be done. If you didn't want to buy a high def TV just yet, you could still get high definition that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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agreen_112 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I love how those with the Xbox are happy in their own little world while those with Play Stations go ape s**t about other people's preferences or likes.Dude the thread obviosly states PS3 in the title. It has nothing to do with Xbox. It was one of you xbox fan boys that jumps in the thread first saying 360>PS3... We were in our "own little world", in this thread, then the fanboyism had to start... Here's a pic showing that the PS3 is not only the better of the two, but it's actually cheaper when you compare the two apples to apples... I also added a pic of my setup in case your interested. Xbox is well over $650 My Setup. Resistance: Fall of man. That's 61" of pure 1080p bliss bitches! And a little Tiger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 tiger woods golf? Meh ,Wii is where it's at for golf games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Dude the thread obviosly states PS3 in the title. It has nothing to do with Xbox. It was one of you xbox fan boys that jumps in the thread first saying 360>PS3... We were in our "own little world", in this thread, then the fanboyism had to start... Here's a pic showing that the PS3 is not only the better of the two, but it's actually cheaper when you compare the two apples to apples... I also added a pic of my setup in case your interested.A better example of "fanboyism" is telling someone they must not have much Madden experience when they state the Xbox controller is more comfortable for him than the Playstation controller (which I agree with). As for the price differential, I don't WANT all that extra crap. I have the base 360, and it is more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson85 Posted March 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 I love how those with the Xbox are happy in their own little world while those with Play Stations go ape s**t about other people's preferences or likes.Dude the thread obviosly states PS3 in the title. It has nothing to do with Xbox. It was one of you xbox fan boys that jumps in the thread first saying 360>PS3... We were in our "own little world", in this thread, then the fanboyism had to start... Here's a pic showing that the PS3 is not only the better of the two, but it's actually cheaper when you compare the two apples to apples... I also added a pic of my setup in case your interested. Xbox is well over $650 My Setup. Resistance: Fall of man. That's 61" of pure 1080p bliss bitches!Awesome picture! 1080P is the s**t And a little Tiger.Nice Setup man! I'll be getting my stuff this Spring or Summer. I have to buy a bunch of s**t for my car first. PS3 can use any bluetooth headset BTW. There was also a HD Camera (EYETOY 2), and official Bluetooth headset announced...On another note you get the best sound out of the PS3 too. It supports 7.1 uncompressed audio through HDMI (oh HDMI another thing 360 doesnt have), which means you get full Digital sound and Video through one cable. You can actually hear each sound separately if you listen. It's truly something you have to experience to understand. Sorry but i'd rather buy something that has staying power, instead of buying another console in 5 years. And have a console which developers still support even after the next gen systems come out. Hence PS2 still has new games coming out, Micro$oft has totally abandoned support for the xbox and Nintendo only has maybe a few more titles left then they are done.Here is a good read....Sony is "still the one to beat", says Epic Games boss (Creator of Gears Of War and Unreal Tournament 3)Rein takes on PS3's criticsEpic Games VP Mark Rein has taken on Sony's critics, saying that he believes the strength of the PlayStation brand and the company's ongoing strategy will ensure PS3 is a success.Speaking to GamesIndustry.biz in an interview at GDC last week, Rein said, "Sony has a very, very strong brand, so in my opinion, they're still the one to beat."The Wii is an impressive piece of hardware, but as you get the visually more impressive games coming out for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, as the marketing dollars get turned up to support the larger quantities of machines, with potential price drops and titles like Singstar which appeal to the larger market... Those machines will ignite, they'll take off, and they'll sell just fine."Rein's comments came after Phil Harrison's GDC keynote speech, during which the Sony Worldwide Studios boss unveiled PlayStation Home and exclusive title LittleBigPlanet. "It looks like they've got some pretty cool stuff coming," Rein said."As the big titles come out, they're going to sell a bunch of machines. When PlayStation Home comes out, they'll sell a bunch of machines... Yeah, it's a high price, because it's a new, high-end piece of equipment, but history shows that price will come down. They'll sell lots of them, it'll be fine."Rein questioned some of the criticisms which have been levelled at Sony in recent months, particularly with regard to the amount of PS3 stock currently available in US stores."So wait, if they don't have enough machines in stores, that's a bad thing? If they do have enough machines, that's a bad thing? Pick one!"People just seem to want to take a smack at [sony], and I can't figure it out. They're the leader, so I guess they have a target on their back."He also had strong words for those who have accused Sony of following in others' footsteps. "I read on a developer forum, one of the guys who worked on PlayStation Home said they started designing it in 2004. So when people say things like, 'Oh, they announced this new piece of software! They just copied so-and-so!'. What, you think they just made it last week in their basement?"According to Rein, there can be a tendency amongst industry professionals to take an insular perspective, and fail to recognise the attitudes of the typical consumer. "The gamers out there, they aspire to buy a new PlayStation," he concluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson85 Posted March 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Some really cool stuff on here http://ps3.ign.com/articles/772/772585p1.htmlIt talks about some animation that the PS3 uses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 It annoyed me PS3 tryed ripping off wii's motion controllers...I like all 3 systems (I owned 360 and WII and I will end up with a ps3)but its just not suited for normal controllers and after watching reveiw on Marval Alliance just seemed retarded to include the feature on ps3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Dude the thread obviosly states PS3 in the title. It has nothing to do with Xbox. It was one of you xbox fan boys that jumps in the thread first saying 360>PS3... We were in our "own little world", in this thread, then the fanboyism had to start... Here's a pic showing that the PS3 is not only the better of the two, but it's actually cheaper when you compare the two apples to apples... I also added a pic of my setup in case your interested.A better example of "fanboyism" is telling someone they must not have much Madden experience when they state the Xbox controller is more comfortable for him than the Playstation controller (which I agree with). As for the price differential, I don't WANT all that extra crap. I have the base 360, and it is more than enough.I guess you don't have a HDTV? It makes sense than for you.The average gamer will want to play online. If your tech savvy, you'll want wireless. That's $550 for live and a wifi adapter. I'd rather pay $50 more and get a Bluray player as well as wifi and FREE online play. tiger woods golf? Meh ,Wii is where it's at for golf games! Do you think I would want to play wii on that TV brother? Your mad. Wii, IMO is for kids. I'm a man in a HD generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Some really cool stuff on here http://ps3.ign.com/articles/772/772585p1.htmlIt talks about some animation that the PS3 uses.I couldn't be any happier with my set up. Bluray's are the only 1080p that I'm experiencing and its truly amazing. It looks so freaking good. Just imagine regular HD and times it by 10, that's how much better true 1080p is than regular 1080i or 720p... I have every component going through HDMI to my A/V reciever. I'm gonna add the extra 2 polk audio speakers soon, right now I have just 5.1. 5.1 is plenty enough with this system though, It shakes my whole house. You can see how big the sub is in that picture, it's on the right of the TV on the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 I love how those with the Xbox are happy in their own little world while those with Play Stations go ape s**t about other people's preferences or likes.Dude the thread obviosly states PS3 in the title. It has nothing to do with Xbox.Oh yea, because we as a community always stick with the actual title of the thread. One had a recap in of the season and on the third post, it was instant draft talk. Anyway, I'm just rippin' you guys. But I'll admit, you have a sweet setup.The average gamer will want to play online. If your tech savvy, you'll want wireless. That's $550 for live and a wifi adapter. I'd rather pay $50 more and get a Bluray player as well as wifi and FREE online play.One reason I really don't care for the Bluray or the HD-DVD BS is that each are getting exclusive deals. If you get one, then you could be shutout of a few movies. One has to reign supreme over the other in terms of life -- not functionality.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 The average gamer will want to play online. If your tech savvy, you'll want wireless. That's $550 for live and a wifi adapter. I'd rather pay $50 more and get a Bluray player as well as wifi and FREE online play. One reason I really don't care for the Bluray or the HD-DVD BS is that each are getting exclusive deals. If you get one, then you could be shutout of a few movies. One has to reign supreme over the other in terms of life -- not functionality.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson85 Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Blu-Ray supporting studiosParamountWarner Bros.Disney (Buena Vista)FoxLionsgateMGMSony PicturesHD-DVD Supporting Studios[/b]ParamountWarner Bros.Universal Studioshttp://www.blu-ray.com/movies/studios.phpwhether you like this game or not, you gotta admit it looks pretty damn good.Ratchet & Clank Trailer! Yes thats in-game!http://threespeech.com/blog/?p=344here is the guy who has played the game, and said "it looks better than that video"http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/10039 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 I'm a man in a HD generation.Fun gameplay > GraphicsGolfing games with a normal controller = worse then watching golf.I love sweet graphics as much as the next person but give me fun game play over a shiney game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 ^^ LOL... Fun gameplay, awesome plots, surround sound, online play ontop of top notch graphics>>>fun gameplay.Talk about funny, have any of you seen Madden on the Wii? You have to actually point both wands to the screen really quick to do a power move. What do you do if your laying down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 ^^ LOL... Fun gameplay, awesome plots, surround sound, online play ontop of top notch graphics>>>fun gameplay.I'd certainly agree, but that's rarely the case.Most of the shiny new console games I've seen or played have the very problem Kaz alluded to... Plenty of video quality, but the actual game sucks. That holds true for the Xbox AND the Playstation.I'm usually cranky about video games though, so a game that I find crappy will probably be more fun to most folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson85 Posted March 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 ^^ LOL... Fun gameplay, awesome plots, surround sound, online play ontop of top notch graphics>>>fun gameplay.I'd certainly agree, but that's rarely the case.Most of the shiny new console games I've seen or played have the very problem Kaz alluded to... Plenty of video quality, but the actual game sucks. That holds true for the Xbox AND the Playstation.I'm usually cranky about video games though, so a game that I find crappy will probably be more fun to most folks.Yeah I agree with that too, but if you remember back when the PS2 first came out there were games that played just like PS1 games. Resident Evil Code: Veronica X on PS2 comes to mind it played like Tomb Raider on PS1. It takes time for new tools to be developed and time for developers to squeeze the most out of every console. Look at the games today compared to the launch games, big difference. God of War 2 Shows how far games can come from launch to the end of a systems life span. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 I dont' really agree with that. Motor Storm, Tiger, Oblivion, Resistance, and Ncaa 2k7 are freaking intoxicating! Playing in HD just makes it even better. The games are nice, and just like you said johnson, they'll get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson85 Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 I dont' really agree with that. Motor Storm, Tiger, Oblivion, Resistance, and Ncaa 2k7 are freaking intoxicating! Playing in HD just makes it even better. The games are nice, and just like you said johnson, they'll get better.Yep!Here is a great read from a developer at Insomniac games. Its kinda long, but he hits alot of points why the PS3 is the better buy in the long run.Mar 27, 2007 : 10 Reasons Why PS3 Will Win This Console GenerationInsomniac Games Chief Creative Officer Brian Hastings discusses why the PS3 is the console to beatFirst of all, let me make it clear that Insomniac is a 100% independent development studio. Sony has neither endorsed nor authorized what I’m writing here.When I started this blog post I was planning to write about Home and Little Big Planet from a developer’s perspective. But as I read some of the media and message board responses to Sony’s GDC presentation, I wanted to address an ongoing industry phenomenon. Specifically, the sheer volume of negative spin toward Sony from both the mainstream press and the internet community. Mere minutes after Sony announced a beautiful, ground breaking, free, community-enhancing online PS3 service, 100 internet posters were trying to argue that this was somehow a bad thing. Whether you love or hate Sony, if you’re trying to spin Home as a bad thing I can only conclude that you’re part of Microsoft’s $3.2 billion viral marketing campaign.I’ll be the first to say that Sony has had a very rough road from last E3 up through this year’s GDC. Some of their wounds have been self-inflicted, but they’ve also had to face a conspicuously hostile media. Take the New York Times article “How the PS3 will kill your dog, steal your girlfriend, and infect you with Ebola.” And Time magazine’s piece “Global Warming: Is It The PS3?” And more recently, GameSpot’s “Ten Complaints We Thought Up While Everyone Else Was Watching Little Big Planet.”For the last nine months it has been fashionable to bash the PS3. At first it was controversial, even titillating, to make sensational and dire predictions about the PS3’s future. You could watch it happen again and again – a rumor starts on a message board (“The PS3s all caught on fire at TGS!”, “Blu-Ray won’t have any Porn!”), then it gets picked up by a games industry website, and a few days later USA Today runs the story with the headline “Experts Say PS3 Doom3d!1!!” But the tide has changed so much now that it’s downright controversial to suggest that the PS3 may yet be a success. So, in the spirit of sensationalism and controversy, let me present to you 10 reasons why the PS3 will be the console market leader by 2010:1. Home & Little Big PlanetOne of my jobs at Insomniac is to try to come up with “the next big thing.” This is something everyone at Insomniac does, but as Chief Creative Officer it’s also part of my job description. For the last two years there have been two concepts that I have felt had the strongest potential to be the next big thing. At GDC, Sony came out of the blue and delivered fully-realized versions of both concepts.The first concept is a realization of the ‘Metaverse’ from Neal Stephenson’s groundbreaking novel Snow Crash. For those who haven’t read it, it’s what inspired Second Life. Over the last couple years, many of us at Insomniac have come up with lots of different ideas on how to make such a system for consoles. So when Home came out, already nearly complete and looking beautiful, it was both amazing and humbling at the same time. In short, Home is exactly what the online console community needs. I’m not saying that because it’s on the PS3. I’m saying that because Home is a fully realized version of something I’ve been trying to figure out how to do for two years.The other “next big thing” I had been thinking about is how to make a game that is primarily driven by player-generated content. So when Little Big Planet was announced I felt like Orville Wright tinkering on a bicycle-powered balsa wood plane as a learjet suddenly flew overhead. Not only does Little Big Planet have stunningly beautiful graphics, gorgeous animation, brilliant physics and intuitive controls, it’s also a cooperative four player online game! This alone makes it accessible to a much greater audience than player vs player games. And most important of all, it has an absolutely ingenuous system for creating and sharing your own levels. This is HUGE. This is something that’s never been done on consoles and now it’s being introduced not as a half-baked add-on to another game, but as an absolutely brilliant, fully realized, breathtaking experience. You can bet that dozens of developers will create their own Little Big Planet levels as soon as it comes out. Many future game designers will get their start by designing Little Big Planet levels. Gamers who previously had no way to get their foot in the door as a game designer will have developers calling them in the middle of the night if they make a top-rated LBP level. I say again, Little Big Planet is HUGE.It’s humbling to know that other developers had not only thought of these two concepts, but brought them to fruition in such stunning fashion. Mostly, though, it’s very encouraging to see Sony taking more of a lead in online innovation. While some people were accusing them of merely copying the competition, Sony has been quietly working on two of the most innovative ideas of this generation. “Mii too?” Give me a break.2. Free OnlineAmong all the talk about the price of Sony’s console, I almost never see anyone mention the significance of Sony’s free online service. Xbox Live Gold costs $70 to sign up for 1 year, or $20 for three months. You can renew your membership for $50 a year. So if the Xbox 360 stays around for five years, you’ll be paying 70 + 50 + 50 + 50 + 50 = $270 to access features that Sony gives you for free.I agree, Xbox Live is overall offering a better online service right now. But $270 better? And Sony is steadily narrowing the gap in online features. With improvements to the messaging system and support for background downloading, Sony is rapidly catching up with many of the key advantages that Live has enjoyed. Add to that the fact that Sony is offering virtually lag-free dedicated servers at no cost, while on Xbox Live you are paying for a more laggy peer-to-peer service. Furthermore, one of the biggest advertised features of Xbox Live is matchmaking, yet the implementation of this feature has been inconsistent since it is left up to the developer. The matchmaking service on Resistance: FOM, meanwhile, has been one of its biggest successes, proving that even at this early stage the PS3’s online capabilities are very competitive. And free. As the PS3 community continues to grow with new features and player-generated content from Home and Little Big Planet, Sony’s online service is looking better and better. And, again, they’re not charging you $270 for it.3. 50 GB gamesIf you ever hear someone say “Blu-Ray isn’t needed for this generation,” rest assured they don’t make games for a living. At Insomniac, we were filling up DVDs on the PS2, as were most of the developers in the industry. We compressed the level data, we compressed the mpeg movies, we compressed the audio, and it was still a struggle to get it to fit in 6 gigs. Now we’ve got 16 times as much system RAM, so the level data is 16 times bigger. And the average disc space of games only gets bigger over a console’s lifespan. As games get bigger, more advanced and more complex, they necessarily take up more space. If developers were filling up DVDs last generation, there are clearly going to be some sacrifices made to fit current generation games in the same amount of space.Granted, some really great Xbox 360 games have squeezed onto a DVD9. Gears of War is a beautiful game and shows off the highest resolution textures of anything yet released, partly because of the Unreal Engine’s ability to stream textures. This means that you can have much higher resolution textures than you could normally fit in your 512 MB of RAM. It also means that you’re going to chew up more disc space for each level. With streamed textures, streamed geometry and streamed audio, even with compression, you can quickly approach 1 GB of data per level. That inherently limits you to a maximum of about 7 levels, and that’s without multiplayer levels or mpeg cutscenes.Sometimes people ask us, “If Resistance takes 14 gigabytes, why doesn’t it look better than Gears?” Well, for one, Resistance didn’t support texture streaming, so we had to make choices about where we spent our high-res textures. Resistance also had 30 single-player chapters, six multiplayer maps, uncompressed audio streaming, and high-definition mpegs. That all added up to a lot of space on the disc. Starting with Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction we are supporting texture streaming, which will make the worlds look even better, and will also consume even more space on disc.There’s no question that you can always cut more levels, compress the audio more, compress the textures more, down-res the mpeg movies, and eventually get any game to fit on a DVD. But you paid for a high-def experience, right? You want the highest resolution, best audio, most cinematic experience a developer can offer, right? That’s why Blu-Ray is important for games, and why it will become more important each year of this hardware cycle.4. Casino RoyaleCasino Royale is the first high definition title to crack the top 10 on Amazon’s DVD charts, rising up to number seven shortly after being released. This is significant because it dispels the myth that high definition discs are merely a niche and will never take off with the mainstream.A lot of people have been waiting on the fence to see whether Blu-Ray or HD-DVD would emerge as the winner of the format war. Well, at this point the war is as good as over. Blu-Ray has won a TKO. It always had superior technical specs and much wider studio support, but there was the question of whether HD-DVD’s earlier release and initially lower price would capture enough of the market to make it the winner. But Blu-Ray has already surpassed HD-DVD in overall discs sold, and is currently outselling HD-DVD discs at about a 3:1 rate. Many neutral observers in the A/V community have called the war in favor of Blu-Ray. If you want minute-to-minute updates, you can follow what’s left of the format war at various locations on the internet:http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/http://www.hdgamedb.com/amazon/versus.aspxThese sites mainly compare Amazon sales data, but the Nielsen sales data shows the same thing: Blu-Ray discs are outselling HD-DVD by a steadily increasing margin.Many of Disney, Fox and Sony’s biggest box office movies will release exclusively on Blu-Ray in the next three months, likely pushing the sales separation between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD to a margin where many retailers will begin phasing out HD-DVD. Retailers hate a format war even more than consumers, and I suspect they’ll take the initiative to end it as quickly as possible.5. HDMIA lot has been said about Sony’s choice to ship with composite cables. I won’t say I agree with that decision, but I think too little has been said of the fact that even the cheaper PS3 SKU supports HDMI 1.3. The PS3 was the first consumer device to support it, and this is a very important future-proofing step. When you go to buy higher-end TVs, the PS3 will support the highest possible audio and video input the TV and receiver can accept. If and when high-def movies start requiring an Image Constraint Token, the PS3 will still be able play them in high definition.Right now, HDMI seems primarily to be a selling point to the hardcore audio and videophiles of the world. But HDTVs are getting cheaper and more popular all the time, and consumer sophistication and knowledge of high definition audio and video is growing. In a couple years, HDMI devices will be the standard. Graphics and audio in games will also continue to improve, and more and more consumers will want HDMI in order to get the best results on their home theater setups. As this happens, Microsoft has a difficult choice – do they stick with “last gen” video output, or do they release a premium version of the Xbox 360 that includes HDMI but effectively forces early adopters to re-buy the system to get the best results? Sony ultimately made their console more expensive by including HDMI, but over the next couple years it’s likely to play out as the right choice.6. Standard HDDWhen we were developing for PS2, I was jealous of Xbox’s standard hard drive. There are so many things this allowed you to consider as a developer – virtually unlimited save data, improved load times, custom music, downloadable content and user-created content just to name a few. But since hard drives, no matter what the size, never get cheaper than about $50, Microsoft lost money trying to compete with the PS2’s price. That may be the reason they left it out of the cheaper Xbox 360 SKU, thinking that Sony would again leave out the hard drive on the PS3. Instead, Sony made the hard drive standard for both SKUs. This added to the cost of the PS3, but it also let developers use the HDD in games.The problem with including a hard drive in one version of the 360 and not in the other is that developers can’t use it for the games. Or, at least, they can’t use it for any required features. When you are guaranteed to have at least a 20 GB hard drive in the console, you can write your load caching routines around it, or use it for your application’s storage needs. To a developer, an optional hard drive is roughly equivalent to no hard drive at all.Another advantage of the PS3 is that it will let you put in any third party hard drive you want. From a developer’s standpoint, this is good news because the market will gradually be able to support larger downloadable games over the course of the PS3’s life. As downloadable content gets larger and more sophisticated, PS3 owners can choose to buy larger hard drives at the best market price. The more this happens, the more developers will be encouraged to create better and better downloadable games.7. The Wii Fad Will FadeOK, this one’s going to be controversial, but I have to say it. I like Nintendo a lot. I think Nintendo has innovated far more than any other company in the industry. And I think the Wii is really, really fun. But… let me relate to you a story that may sound familiar:Your friend Reggie invites you over for a Wii Party. It’s awesome. You and your friends partake in whatever beverages are legally appropriate for your age group. The next day everyone who went to the party rushes out and buys a Wii.A week later Reggie hosts another Wii Party. This time only half the group comes. It’s still fun, but there isn’t quite as much shoving to get at the Wiimote.The next week Reggie hosts another Wii Party. You tell him you have bird flu.Obviously I’m exaggerating, but the Wii does have many characteristics of popular mainstream fads. It’s instantaneously accessible, it’s unlike anything you’ve tried before, and it’s great fun to share with friends. In short, it’s everything Nintendo said it would be and it has captured the world’s imagination. The only downside is that the world is easily distracted. Tickle Me Elmo captured the world’s attention at one point, as did Furbies. They were both instantly accessible, were unlike anything people had seen before, and were fun to share with friends. But a year later, after everyone had seen them and tried them out, their popularity waned.The Wii is currently riding on a massive wave of mainstream attention and has been purchased by lots of people who don’t normally play games. But how many of those people who are hooked on Wii Sports will also buy Wii Need For Speed? Mainstream fads usually run their course within a year. As the honeymoon period fades, the Wii will be going up against more and more graphically impressive games on the PS3 and Xbox 360. More people will be buying HD televisions and looking for the most immersive and stunning experiences available. For these reasons, I think the Wii will be more successful than the GameCube or N64 but in the long run will still be outsold by the PS3.8. PS3 Has a Major CPU AdvantageThe GPUs on the Xbox 360 and PS3 are roughly equivalent, with the Xbox 360 arguably having a slight edge. The difference in CPU power, however, is far greater with the PS3 enjoying the advantage. The PS3’s eight parallel CPUs (one primary “PPU” and seven Cell processors) give it potentially far more computing power than the three parallel CPUs in the Xbox 360. Just about any tech programmer will tell you that the PS3’s CPUs are significantly more powerful. The problem is that it has been challenging thus far to take advantage of the Cell’s parallel architecture.With the PS2, Sony got away with making a fairly developer-unfriendly system, and its success allowed their hardware designers to ignore developer’s complaints as they made the PS3. People high up at Sony have realized that approach simply won’t work anymore and are trying to fix the problem. Sony is actively improving their libraries, tools and developer support in order to make PS3 development easier. They are giving first party developed techniques and code to third-party developers so that multi-platform games should start looking better on PS3.Games developed from the ground up on PS3 are the ones that will really show off the PS3’s CPU advantage. The complexity of the distributed processing architecture means that PS3 engines won’t fully blossom until a little later in the lifecycle than the PS2. This has put the PS3 at a disadvantage early in its lifecycle, but within two years you will see games that surpass what is possible on the Xbox 360.9. PS2 still outselling 360I know, it’s outselling the PS3 by an even larger margin. But the continued strong PS2 sales really are a good thing for Sony. Anyone buying a PS2 at this point is probably not going to buy a PS3 or Xbox 360 in the next year. And when they do choose to buy the current generation of hardware, the PS3 will be in a lot better position. The price will have come down, the game library will be broad, and the top PS3 titles will probably have the edge in both graphics and sound. Just as important, the people buying into the PS2 now will be getting into many of Sony’s exclusive franchises that they will then later want to play on the PS3.10. Something For EveryoneOne of Sony’s biggest advantages is that it has strong franchises in every genre. Whereas Microsoft’s successful titles are mostly M-rated, and Nintendo’s are mostly E-rated, Sony has a big list of hit titles across the spectrum. When a 30-something gamer (like me) goes to buy a game console, it’s a lot easier to justify the purchase when there are games he can play with his kids as well as more mature stuff.To Microsoft’s credit, they are doing a good job of catching up. The acquisition of Rare and the development of Viva Pinata have helped to broaden their spectrum. But it takes time to build a franchise, and Sony has been building their suite of titles for over a decade. Consider the breadth, success and critical acclaim of some of their exclusive properties: The Getaway, God of War, Gran Turismo, Hot Shots Golf, Jak and Daxter, Killzone, Ratchet & Clank, Shadow of the Colossus, Singstar, Sly Cooper, SOCOM, and Twisted Metal. These are all million-plus sellers worldwide that are either already announced or likely to appear on PS3. Add to this Sony’s new line up of first-party titles, including Heavenly Sword, Lair, Motorstorm, Resistance: Fall of Man, Uncharted and White Knight Story, and they have an even deeper and stronger line-up than what they had on PS2.A lot of industry watchers and even a handful of publishers have been quick to write Sony off this generation, and I think that’s near-sighted. Sony has made a lot of decisions with the PS3 that may have slowed them down in the short run, but should give them a big advantage in the long run. The high price, hardware complexity, and the uncertainty of the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD format war have contributed to the PS3’s slow start out of the gate. But as the price drops, developers master the hardware, and Blu-Ray becomes the new DVD standard, Sony’s early disadvantages turn to advantages. As downloadable games become more common, the 60 GB hard-drive will be a big advantage to developers and consumers. As games get bigger and more sophisticated, Blu-Ray storage will increasingly become a major advantage. And as more and more of Sony’s exclusive first-party titles get released, the PS3 will begin to outsell the competition on a monthly basis. Those publishers who have shifted resources away from PS3 development will find themselves behind the curve and losing money as the market center gradually shifts toward the PS3 over the next two years.I’m sure many of you may have comments about my point of view. If you do, please email blog@insomniacgames.com and I’ll do my best to respond. Also, I’ll be visiting the various forums to see what people think, including our own at www.insomniacgames.com (click on the community tab). Hope to see you there.Hopefully he cleared up some of the stuff people don't understand about the PS3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Last time I checked, the Wii was DESTROYING the PS3 and the 360 in total sales combined. I have played all three and they are all equally fine machines, the Wii is actually a lot of fun, esp Wii Sports. You can def. see its appeal to the younger folks and that it is more interactive than the other two. The Wii probably will declared a winner here pretty soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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