kurgan74 Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Did anyone watch last nights Giants-Chiefs game? The loss of both starting tacklesfor the Chiefs sure seems to be effecting the team a great deal. NY was constantlydriving the KC offensive line into the backfield and resestablishing the line of scrimmage.During the 4th quarter CBS showed that through 2 games the KC offense has only managed290 total yards offensively. The loss of 2 starting tackles could very well cost the Chiefsany chance at the playoffs this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABengalsFan09 Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Brian Waters is also missing, not to mention the guy replacing Willie isn't your normal backup, he's probably about 30 lbs light of 300 pounds.... While I'm not one to put to much stock in the early preseason offensive tells, it is going to be interesting to see how much the loss of offensive coordinator Al Saunders affects this team, coupled with the often dodgy playcalling/offensive philosophy of Herm Edwards. Without a real viable/reliable backup option at RB, I can see him running LJ into the ground and wearing him down come late season. As this pertains to the Bengals, I hope that this could mean big things for Justin Smith, Brian Robinson, David Pollack come Week 1. But in order to set that up the Bengals are going to really have to shut down the run-game on 1st and definitely second down. I think Dexter Jackson plays a big role in keeping some sort of outside contain as he creeps up and pinches the line of scrimmage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwalling Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Did anyone watch last nights Giants-Chiefs game? The loss of both starting tacklesfor the Chiefs sure seems to be effecting the team a great deal. NY was constantlydriving the KC offensive line into the backfield and resestablishing the line of scrimmage.During the 4th quarter CBS showed that through 2 games the KC offense has only managed290 total yards offensively. The loss of 2 starting tackles could very well cost the Chiefsany chance at the playoffs this year.The Chief's secondary got torched by Eli too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiotter Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Yes I hope that holds true...But I think they will still be a team to reckon with after its all said an done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoTbOy Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 I saw the Chiefs against the Texans also and they did not look good that game either, in both games the offense and defense were getting manhandled...I know that this is only preseason, but my confidence level went up a couple of notches after seeing those games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadJohnson-85 Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 I didn't get a chance to watch the game last night but I did watch the highlights on ESPN & all I gotta say is if they play us the same way they did against the Giants then there's no way in hell they'll beat us in week one. Who Dey!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckj414 Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 The Chiefs have the look of a 5-11 team. I bet everyone who drafted Larry Johnson 1st or 2nd overall in their fantasy drafts are kicking themselves right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 So I ran across this piece last week:http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=907...and after reading the first item thought, well, yeah, that'd be nice, but that's drawing a lot from the first preseason (as the CHFF guys were quick to note themselves). But after watching KC stink up Giants Stadium last night, I have to ask if there isn't something there. Maybe it's Edwards, maybe it's the o-line losses (Roaf), or maybe it's just a couple bad weeks, but having to go to Arrowhead in week 1 is looking a lot less formidable now than it was just a couple weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Diden't their Oline lose 2 or 3 starters this season?I think playing chiefs game 1 is best time to play em now before their Oline can get time to gel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 You can't judge too much from the preseason. I remember Nate Webster looking like Ray Lewis and Caleb Miller looking like the next Donnie Edwards in the preseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 The Chiefs have the look of a 5-11 team. I bet everyone who drafted Larry Johnson 1st or 2nd overall in their fantasy drafts are kicking themselves right now.He'll still get his yards no matter how bad his team does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 And Webster looked pretty good in the regular season until he got hurt. Same with Caleb.So what's your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 I didn't watch the entire game, but I did hear Troy Aikman comment on something we'd kicked around a few weeks ago. Aikman stated during the broadcast that Chief OLT Kyle Turley was much lighter than the Chiefs were claiming, and in Aikmans opinion Turley was currently no bigger than 270-275 lbs. I tell ya, a Justin Smith bull rush is a very beautiful thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalskyspy Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 JS was bull-rushing his man all the way into the QB against Washington. He should have a field day against a lighter guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 You can't judge too much from the preseason. I remember Nate Webster looking like Ray Lewis and Caleb Miller looking like the next Donnie Edwards in the preseason.You can't but you can judge when a team loses 2probowl linemen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 I really like herm and gotta hate to see him get knocked because chiefs go down hill from last season and he'll get blaimed when it was really the chiefs age....He wasen't that lucky chiefs have alot of freaking old players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckj414 Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 The Chiefs have the look of a 5-11 team. I bet everyone who drafted Larry Johnson 1st or 2nd overall in their fantasy drafts are kicking themselves right now.He'll still get his yards no matter how bad his team does.Let me guess - you drafted him? If so, feel for you man, it probably looked like a smart pick at the time. Here's the thing about Larry Johnson: he didn't get all those yards on his own last season. He's the kind of back who looks great when he has room to run - with his size and speed, when he's allowed an unimpeded course to the defensive secondary, yeah, he's going to put up huge numbers. But the fact that he regularly had open-field opportunities had nothing to do with his own abilities. And at his size, with a long stride, he's not going to create his own holes if the offensive line isn't getting it done. Here's the other thing about Larry Johnson: last I saw he's not much of a pass blocker. If the Chiefs are a lousy team this year, and I think they will be, although Herm Edwards may squeeze a couple more wins out of them than my earlier 5-11 estimate, they'll be playing from behind a lot, which will eliminate the snaps of any player who isn't useful in the passing game. That means fewer touches for LJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 It's only the preseason. The Bengals will have to combat the Arrowhead crowd and Larry Johnson. No trip to KC is easy. But the Bengals will be more than ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckj414 Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 I really like herm and gotta hate to see him get knocked because chiefs go down hill from last season and he'll get blaimed when it was really the chiefs age....He wasen't that lucky chiefs have alot of freaking old playersExactly. He's a great motivator, he'll keep that team competitive, but they just don't have the talent they did a few years back. I'm really not sure why anyone thought they'd be in the playoff mix this year. Damn, last night they were the less talented team at every stage of the game, from the 1st string right back to the scrubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 I thought the KC offense looked not so good, but will put very little stock in these pre-season games. "IF" we can expect what they have done so far at the start of the season, KC will be in trouble !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwalling Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 So I ran across this piece last week:http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=907...and after reading the first item thought, well, yeah, that'd be nice, but that's drawing a lot from the first preseason (as the CHFF guys were quick to note themselves). But after watching KC stink up Giants Stadium last night, I have to ask if there isn't something there. Maybe it's Edwards, maybe it's the o-line losses (Roaf), or maybe it's just a couple bad weeks, but having to go to Arrowhead in week 1 is looking a lot less formidable now than it was just a couple weeks ago. Let's see:KC O-Line - real badKC Secondary - real badNew KC coach - real badChances of Chad going for 150 yards - real goodChances Trent Green having over 6 total sacks & picks - real goodChances of a Bengals win week 1 - REAL GOOD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 I didn't watch the entire game, but I did hear Troy Aikman comment on something we'd kicked around a few weeks ago. Aikman stated during the broadcast that Chief OLT Kyle Turley was much lighter than the Chiefs were claiming, and in Aikmans opinion Turley was currently no bigger than 270-275 lbs. I tell ya, a Justin Smith bull rush is a very beautiful thing.Also: Turdley's back is brittle like uncooked spaghetti. He's not making it through this season.Let's see: Turley hasn't played tackle in a couple of years? Check. Turley is damaged goods? Check. Turley is about 50 pounds lighter than you'd like? Check. Turley was originally hoping to maybe play TE this year becuase he knows his OL days are over? Check.Yeah, glad we're playing them early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurgan74 Posted August 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 The Chiefs lost both of their starting tackles to retirement and G Will Shields was injured lastnight. It appears as if Shields may not be ready to play on September 10 from some preliminary reports. The loss of 3 starters along the OL could be very difficult for the Chiefs to overcome. In addition the Chiefs, D has been giving up over 150 yards rushing in each of the 2 exhibition games. The Bengals chances of winning in one of the toughest stadiums in the NFL are definitely on the rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrandom42 Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 The Chiefs lost both of their starting tackles to retirement and G Will Shields was injured lastnight. It appears as if Shields may not be ready to play on September 10 from some preliminary reports. The loss of 3 starters along the OL could be very difficult for the Chiefs to overcome. In addition the Chiefs, D has been giving up over 150 yards rushing in each of the 2 exhibition games. The Bengals chances of winning in one of the toughest stadiums in the NFL are definitely on the rise. Losing Shields is huge. There was a question on how long he'd go without an injury this season. That just made the Hall of Fame left side of KC's line into average at best. Larry Johnson is gonna have a bear of a time running the ball and Trent Green better hope for good blocking to save his blind side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Shields is down too? fudge I feel bad for herm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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