Kazkal Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Yeah, the jury is still out if he can play SAM backer. With Justin Smith headed to free agency, there is some buzz about puffing Pollack up to 270 pounds next year from 255 of 260 and just let him go back to do what he does best all the time and play right end. And maybe potential SAM backers like Rashad Jeanty, Caleb Miller, or Landon Johnson make that more intriguing. But if they go to a 3-4, Pollack has to be one of the outside backers.Though its only hobson none the less seems kinda messed up if we did move pollack back to DE it would be wasting 2 years of having him play LB when he could have started at DE from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhunkE1 Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 I don't think having Pollack bulk up is a good idea. He bulked up for his Junior year at GA (I believe he got up to about 270) and had his worst year. I think Pollack is going to show us all this year that he's just a football player. Whether you line him up at end or LB he's going to make plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalChamps Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 I cant stand it when coaches start messing around with players' weight. Leave him alone! and dont waste the past 2 years of experience at LB. IF YOU WANT A DE TO REPLACE JUSTIN, DRAFT ONE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 I don't think having Pollack bulk up is a good idea. He bulked up for his Junior year at GA (I believe he got up to about 270) and had his worst year. I'm pretty sure he was even heavier than 270, but he claimed the weight gain was due to a foot injury that bothered him all year and kept him from practicing. The foot injury slowed his burst off of the snap, and he went on to admit that he was carrying too much "water weight". Simply put, the weight gain in college wasn't muscle. I'm guessing his frame could easily carry another 10-12 pounds of muscle, but it might take him two years to add it properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted August 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 I don't think having Pollack bulk up is a good idea. He bulked up for his Junior year at GA (I believe he got up to about 270) and had his worst year. I think Pollack is going to show us all this year that he's just a football player. Whether you line him up at end or LB he's going to make plays.he bulked up 290+His nat weight is 265-270ish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WretchedOne Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 This is why we went after Henderson so hard. So we wouldn't have to screw around with Pollack, if we keep messing with his positions, the guy is never gonna do a damn thing for this team.Leave him at LB and let him develop, HE IS gonna be a monster.With Henderson at End and Pollack at LB, NOONE is gonna be able to stop the pressure from their side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 water boy,water weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 I cant stand it when coaches start messing around with players' weight. Leave him alone! and dont waste the past 2 years of experience at LB. IF YOU WANT A DE TO REPLACE JUSTIN, DRAFT ONE. Agreed completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted August 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Guess Henderons future will also tip our hand on our future plans. though rucker bulking up to also play DT but he still seems to small seems weird get all these 4-3 ends then switch to 3-4IF YOU WANT A DE TO REPLACE JUSTIN, DRAFT ONE.Well that or resign him! but we still need a starting DE worthy to play on the other side too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Evidence you should not mess with a player's weight?????Robert Geathers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadraftnick Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 I would rather see us get a new deffensive coordinator than go to the 3-4.There is a reason that we got out of the 3-4 when Marvin got here because,we were sucking at it.The D started getting better when we went to the 4-3.The reason that the D is not as good as it should be is that if you run the 4-3 you need a pair of DE's that can rush the passer which, is something we have have not had is 15+years.We have spent way too many first day draft choices on LB's and not enough on the D-line.It looks more like Bresnahan is setting up an excuse so, if the D does not look OK this year,it will be because he didnt go to the 3-4.Then if he goes to the 3-4 next year then, if that doesnt work then it will be because they need another year or two to learn the system and so on.Bresnahan needs to make the 4-3 work here and now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 water boy,water weight. Sometimes I wonder is this place could even exist without you, SpainI would rather see us get a new deffensive coordinator than go to the 3-4.There is a reason that we got out of the 3-4 when Marvin got here because,we were sucking at it.The D started getting better when we went to the 4-3.The reason that the D is not as good as it should be is that if you run the 4-3 you need a pair of DE's that can rush the passer which, is something we have have not had is 15+years.We have spent way too many first day draft choices on LB's and not enough on the D-line.It looks more like Bresnahan is setting up an excuse so, if the D does not look OK this year,it will be because he didnt go to the 3-4.Then if he goes to the 3-4 next year then, if that doesnt work then it will be because they need another year or two to learn the system and so on.Bresnahan needs to make the 4-3 work here and now.We didn't have anywhere near the personell for a 3-4, and I think we we're already out of the 3-4 when Marvin got here. The 3-4 was implenented when Dick Leblow got the job and he changed it because of personnell issues. Adn we've been talking about the 3-4 since Frazier's last year, so I don't think it's an excuse for Chucky.But, I do agree we don't have any great DE's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadraftnick Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 water boy,water weight. Sometimes I wonder is this place could even exist without you, SpainI would rather see us get a new deffensive coordinator than go to the 3-4.There is a reason that we got out of the 3-4 when Marvin got here because,we were sucking at it.The D started getting better when we went to the 4-3.The reason that the D is not as good as it should be is that if you run the 4-3 you need a pair of DE's that can rush the passer which, is something we have have not had is 15+years.We have spent way too many first day draft choices on LB's and not enough on the D-line.It looks more like Bresnahan is setting up an excuse so, if the D does not look OK this year,it will be because he didnt go to the 3-4.Then if he goes to the 3-4 next year then, if that doesnt work then it will be because they need another year or two to learn the system and so on.Bresnahan needs to make the 4-3 work here and now.We didn't have anywhere near the personell for a 3-4, and I think we we're already out of the 3-4 when Marvin got here. The 3-4 was implenented when Dick Leblow got the job and he changed it because of personnell issues. Adn we've been talking about the 3-4 since Frazier's last year, so I don't think it's an excuse for Chucky.But, I do agree we don't have any great DE'sWhen Lebeau got here his first thing he did was change the personel to a 3-4 his first draft was Takeo Spikes and Brian Simmons with 2 first round picks then he drafted Steve Foley 3rd round pick, who had led the nation in sacks in college and had 10 sacks for Texas and just had a pretty good year for SanDiego.So we had THE personel and we had the MASTER of the 3-4 to run it ,in all fairness we did have one OK year in the 3-4 but, the rest of the time IT SUCKED and we had we spent 2 first round picks and one 3rd on three of the starters so we had the personel.For what ever reason it has not worked here.My guess is that they did not invest in the D-line which is where it all starts.If you look at the Ravens D,Ray Lewis is not what made that D good it was Sam Adams,Tony Surigusa,and a pair of the best DE's in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 When we ran the 3-4 we were OK at it. At one point, Lebeau had the team around a Top 10 D. Problem was pass rush and defensive backs...This team does have the requisite pieces for a 3-4 but with the rules for PI and the fact that Sam Adams is only a temporary answer, we are better running a hybrid scheme...guys like Water Boy, Nicholson, Brooks, Jeanty...big, fast versatile will provide MAJOR issues with matchups from a scheme perspective...not saying everyone makes the squad but the look is there.Justin Smith will have a decent year..damn that was hard to say. I feel better now.Just an offhand question...Does anyone feel that this D will finally catch up with the O this season? I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueResident Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 I think it'd be a bad move...he's got two years exp. at linebacker and had some shining moments at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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