Calling all Drunks, Jerks and Bad Boy Fans

[Kirkendall]

Actually, Bengals employee, Bob Bedinghaus (save irony commissioner stadium tax comment for later), made clear the "f" bomb, like shouting "f'ing Steelers" isn't what's going to happen. But if one guy is hassling another, then yea.

"We're not going to be the curse police. You need to understand you're coming to an NFL football game," Bedinghaus said. "On the other hand, we want to make sure that we're paying attention to those folks who are going over the line."

If you REALLY want to know what "the line" is, since I'm sure that question is around the bend, call them. Get clarification. Here's the general #: 513-621-3550. Give us a full report.

[richmond_mat]

It's not going to change a thing. First couple of games it may get inundated (sp) with people calling. But now with the number, the ushers will be freed up to deal with actual "real" events, and not some alleged slight that fans feel has been done towards them.

BS Since when is the police presence not enough of a deterent; there are ushers galore who should be proactive in dealing with rude behaviour.

This will change things.

It's the start of a slippery slope of turning citizens against one another. I can imagine it becoming criminal to not report poor behaviour. Censorship is ruining this country

Am I obliged to rat out Kirk for his pro MJ signature?.....especially since he works for the county.....or any other person that mentions anything illegal on the board?

Wake up Bengal land, this is an assault on personal liberty and dangerous consequences lie ahead.

One other thing

RECREATIONAL DRUGS WERE NOT A PROBLEM BEFORE THEY WERE MADE ILLEGAL.

so Kirk (and everyone else who thinks this is good) I believe you are nuts implying that there must be a problem for a new law to be made. That's indicative of how sick this country is; laws are passed to fix things. BS we have been living in the political reactionary period where not a single leader has any vision but the past.

end rant.

[skyline]

It's not going to change a thing. First couple of games it may get inundated (sp) with people calling. But now with the number, the ushers will be freed up to deal with actual "real" events, and not some alleged slight that fans feel has been done towards them.

Wake up Bengal land, this is an assault on personal liberty and dangerous consequences lie ahead.

Oh, come on! We're on their property, and if they want to enforce some kind of surveilance system, isn't that their right? If you don't like it you can boycot by not attending games, but as long as they aren't breaking the law (and they aren't), then you have no right to tell them how they should or should not enforce rules on their turf.

Now, the invasion of private property, personal phone calls, computer use, etc. is a different matter. Those are the things to worry about. Not this...

[Kirkendall]

RECREATIONAL DRUGS WERE NOT A PROBLEM BEFORE THEY WERE MADE ILLEGAL.

so Kirk (and everyone else who thinks this is good) I believe you are nuts implying that there must be a problem for a new law to be made. That's indicative of how sick this country is; laws are passed to fix things. BS we have been living in the political reactionary period where not a single leader has any vision but the past.

end rant.

Did you know there's over 30 million surveillance cameras posted in the public streets of America? There's nothing illegal here (PBS) in the eyes of the government. In fact, as far as I know, they didn't even initiate the discussion.

I'm with Sky. This isn't a new law. I don't believe the Hamilton County Council or the city council in Cincinnati are proposing this. This is a hot line to help expedite problematic people at a venue that's created by a private company.

What about the State of Ohio's phone number to call in drunk drivers? Heck, why do they tell us not to do it? Because it affects others? What about public intoxication laws? The difference between those and the Bengals is one is by the government, the other is by the owner of a private business.

I think your slippery slope argument is a justified one, but I don't think it applies here.

Now if county and the incompetent Cincinnati government were doing this and playing Judge Dread, then I'd be in line with ya. But the worst that happens to you is you're kick out of the stadium and "RISK" losing your season tickets based on the infraction. This is the same rules that have always existed.

You call the number, the security staff takes the cameras and focuses on the section, finds the person whose being reported, and the security removes them with visual evidence. That’s a better solution than walking to an usher or cop and they removing the fan without visual evidence, wouldn’t you agree?

The people that run this thing are probably more worried about removing the wrong person and creating more negative PR than running a Stalinist Empire.

I'm honestly surprised by the over-reaction on this. Perhaps it's just me.. who knows.

[bengalboomer7]

See, I think you guys are looking at this wrong(Just my opinion) First off, Paul Brown Stadium is a private facility, where they can make and enforce their own set of rules. But I don't want to talk about the rules as much as WHY the rule was implemented.

Someone typed, Wake up America, find respect for yourself and others. I think THAT'S the main problem and the MAIN reason things like this are implemented. Someone shared a story of a drunk Bengals fan running around in a hotel haggling Lions fans. Where's the respect in that? The Lions aren't even a rival of us, and have royally sucked for many years. Winning that game had ABSOLUTELY nothing with beating the Lions, but was about winning the division.

Last year, I wnt to the Buffalo game that we lost. As the game ended and we we're walking down the ramp, I see about eight young(18-25) Bengals fans harasing this old guy and his toddlers(6-10). Cursing at them and yelling all the way down the ramp. Where's the respect in that.

My point is, if people didn't act like this in the first place, things like this wouldn't be needed.

[Kirkendall]

I think Ric's Wakeup America is the Earl Pitts phrase (Burbank reference).

http://www.earlpitts.us/

[SkinneymulleT]

For the record,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Brown_Stadium

"The stadium's owner, Hamilton County," of the people by the people and for the people, or in your opinion only some of the people who happen to behave in an non jerk like manner in some random persons opinion, which is to be fully interpreted and applied at some later date, is sufficient reason to invade the privacy of non offending individuals, who by the unalienable rights invested by our maker, have an expectation of privacy, ie not to be spyed on.

[Kirkendall]

Dude, seriously, don't go to any games. If your paranoia outweighs your support for the Bengals, then give tix to someone that will enjoy the games.

[HoTbOy]

If someone has to get that drunk to enjoy a football game then maybe they should watch it at a bar, because PBS is not the place for it, and who wants to get on the road to go home with someone who is to cocked to drive....the place for them would to be in their favorite chair at home and drink like a fish, that way you throw-up on your own furniture and you don't have to drive drunk...this is not a bad idea for obnoxious fans...

[richmond_mat]

Dude, seriously, don't go to any games. If your paranoia outweighs your support for the Bengals, then give tix to someone that will enjoy the games.

It's not paranoia!

It's the inspirational snitching that irks me. (yeah I remember being peeved at the 'call in on a drunk hot line' for the same reason)

This type of mentality is going to lead to copless speeding tickets and the like.

The idea of citizens policing citizens is a hopeless dead end into Stalin's soviet union, China or Iraq......

Policing is best left to those with authority. The last thing a FREE country needs is to have its citizens peering into their neighbor's lives. You cannot give an inch on this or the mile will shortly follow.

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Kirk's right about the 'Wake up america' line. Does Burbank still do that?

and I do think there is a serious lack of respect in America today.

[MacD BengalFan]

The sad thing is the few idiots ruin it for the many. If you have no respect for other people, you should not be going out in public because you will only ruin it for those who do. While I do not like the idea of someone watching over me and my actions, but this is now the society that we live. Everyone has to be watched and thier actions monitored. I live near Baltimore and would love to see the Ravens and Bengals play this season, but I will not go because of the concern I have that I will run into the few idiots that lack any respect.

If this program is proven to be succussful, I would expect other teams to adapt the same program to make the experiance more enjoyable.

[Kirkendall]

Dude, seriously, don't go to any games. If your paranoia outweighs your support for the Bengals, then give tix to someone that will enjoy the games.

It's not paranoia!

It's the inspirational snitching that irks me. (yeah I remember being peeved at the 'call in on a drunk hot line' for the same reason)

This type of mentality is going to lead to copless speeding tickets and the like.

The idea of citizens policing citizens is a hopeless dead end into Stalin's soviet union, China or Iraq......

Policing is best left to those with authority. The last thing a FREE country needs is to have its citizens peering into their neighbor's lives. You cannot give an inch on this or the mile will shortly follow.

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Kirk's right about the 'Wake up america' line. Does Burbank still do that?

and I do think there is a serious lack of respect in America today.

Yea, he does. BBC cracks me up. I think the entire 700WLW lineup is an all-star lineup.

I think, right now, the Bengals are doing a poor job explaining this at this point. There were interviews about it on 700wlw and basically made me think, "yea, this is no big deal." I haven’t done a good job either promoting that. But I also understand there's a small group of people here that has access to it. The Enquirer did their best to freak people out with their doom stories (perhaps after reporting another shooting) about it and if Hobson said anything, it was limited.

Anyway, I honestly think this is much ado about nothing; but I won’t be able to convince anyone of that. If it turns out to be what you're indicating, man, I'll lead the charge with ya. I go back to the controversial Patriot Act. There was all sorts of anger about that, liberty's, freedom's, etc.. and I'll bet there's been minimal, at best, claims compared to the initial outrage. And if there was, the MSM hasn’t done a good job keeping up with it (and no, I don’t include the Ass-Clown Lunacy Union).

I was serious when asking someone here to contact the Bengals front office to provide detailed information about a policy that would be used in regards to this phone number. The cameras have always been there, more for preventative mass crimes (ie, terrorism, shootings; crime-related items). I don't suspect they are removing the cameras intentional purposes; perhaps just to redirect IF there's been a call. But that’s only speculation on my part.

In the end, as long as golf courses don't point cameras at houses from the fairway indicating who hit their homes, I'll be pretty content. If they start doing that I'll be pissed (and broke!)

Sorry to bring out the mad faced icon I was actually directing my comment to the mullet who suddenly thinks we're on the verge of Neo-Nazism run by the Brown family.

[bengalboomer7]

Bob Dylan, when he was with the Traveling Wilburys, sang this on a song called Tweeter & the Monkey Man. Replace Jersey with PBS

"In Jersey anything's legal, as long as you don't get caught"

[skyline]

Bob Dylan, when he was with the Traveling Wilburys, sang this on a song called Tweeter & the Monkey Man. Replace Jersey with PBS

"In Jersey anything's legal, as long as you don't get caught"

Good album.

[bengalboomer7]

Bob Dylan, when he was with the Traveling Wilburys, sang this on a song called Tweeter & the Monkey Man. Replace Jersey with PBS

"In Jersey anything's legal, as long as you don't get caught"

Good album.

Off Topic: It's a great album. Anytime you can get that many stars together it's great. Although most of their other albums lack what this one has.....great songs.

[redsbengalsbucks]

Bob Dylan, when he was with the Traveling Wilburys, sang this on a song called Tweeter & the Monkey Man. Replace Jersey with PBS

"In Jersey anything's legal, as long as you don't get caught"

Good album.

Off Topic: It's a great album. Anytime you can get that many stars together it's great. Although most of their other albums lack what this one has.....great songs.

The first album with Roy Orbison was great other than that they were average at best. To bad Roy passed away before they were able to tour or record more songs with his unbelievable voice.

[Kirkendall]

I like New Kids on the Block.... "hangun' tough!"

[redsbengalsbucks]

I like New Kids on the Block.... "hangun' tough!"

They are nothing compared to MC Hammer... cant touch this!

[Kirkendall]

What about Menudo? They were pimpin' years before their time.

[bengalboomer7]

I'll share a sad, sad fact about my life. In the fifth grade, the first concert I EVER wnet to..........MILLI VANILLI Now excuse me while I pull out my eardrums with a sharp, rusty, metal object!

I may be wrong, Sky, but I think Tweeter & the Monkey man was their third album together, and after that Roy was pretty sick and barely featured in any other album. In fact, volume four is mostly just Dylan and Petty.

To get even more off topic. I recently read an artile that says one of theifirst signs of getting old is not keeping up with the times. Not following current music, not watching MTV, stuff like that. Just thought that was interesting.

[HairOnFire]

I'll share a sad, sad fact about my life. In the fifth grade, the first concert I EVER wnet to..........MILLI VANILLI

You're such a puppy.

This topic might make a good thread on the general happenings forum. "What was the first concert you attended?"

As for me and my grey beard, my first concert was Mountain, featuring Leslie West. They actually opened and closed the show with the same song, Mississippi Queen, and may have slipped in the middle of the show as well. We're talking about one hit wonders with real balls.

Mister Toads Wild Ride?

[Kirkendall]

Believe it or not, I saw John Prime.

Best known concert act, Metallica, Black Album tour.

[HoosierCat]

Hmmm. First concert? I think it would have been Triumph, early to mid 80s, at the old Cincinnati Gardens. They had a couple songs I liked, like "Say Goodbye" and "Ordinary Man" (buried in my car console, there's still an old, battered but still playable "Allied Forces" cassette) but it was then-girlfriend who was really into them.

As I recall, they sucked live.

[bengalboomer7]

Several moderators and long time posters have completely hijacked this thread

I love abusing power

[HoosierCat]

Several moderators and long time posters have completely hijacked this thread

I love abusing power

I knew it! Bengalboomer7 really is Dick Cheney!