Steinbach Arrested

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Ok resign Willie and cut Steinbach. Im sick of this $h*+!

Wow lets let a probowl guard go because he was drinking well fishing like 95% of america does.

There's fish alive in the Ohio River???

Sure are. Some of them have three eyes, some of them have legs, and some of them you can actually eat. I wouldn't recommend it though.

Besides, what do fish have to do with fishing?

[HoosierCat]

This is meaningless.

Yup.

[Jet23]

Oh no, now the National Media is really going to say bad things about us....BIG DEAL. He had a few beers like every other boater ever. Should he have been smarter? Sure, but I have had experience with the Dept. of Fish and Wildlife. Nothing but a bunch of glorified rent-a-cops. We were ticketed for not having enough life jackets, because one of them ripped when I pulled it out. She said it was therefore unserviceable. She asked me if I had a problem with her. I said 'hell yes, I have a problem with you'.

This is nothing more than a bunch of Barneys trying to justify their pathetic jobs. They probably got pissed when he didn't treat them like Mulder & Skully.

[Kirkendall]

This is meaningless.

Yup.

I don't know, if Biggie is right, and if the beer was bait.... If Steinbach did indeed fish in the Ohio and catch something he could eat, this would be the biggest story in Cincinnati...... ever.

Jet, you're right. The media is missing the obvious. LIVE FISH!

(this is me making fun of ESPN and FoxSports putting this headline on the front page.. can we say, over-reaction)

[bwillycuse]

When it rains, it pours. This would've barely made a ripple a year ago.

But refusing the breath test was dumb.

Actually, no it wasn't. It gives his lawyer more to work with getting Steiny off the hook.

I grew up right on the river, boated and drank a million times and never been caught. I've had buddies let off a thousand times for this. I might get battered because of the Henry thread, but this is horses**t. I think these guys saw a pro football player, and wanted to arrest a "famous person"

I agree, If you can afford a lawyer then dont blow, they can easily get Reck Op and get the license suspension overturned.

Ill overlook the double standard for now.

[bengalboomer7]

When it rains, it pours. This would've barely made a ripple a year ago.

But refusing the breath test was dumb.

Actually, no it wasn't. It gives his lawyer more to work with getting Steiny off the hook.

I grew up right on the river, boated and drank a million times and never been caught. I've had buddies let off a thousand times for this. I might get battered because of the Henry thread, but this is horses**t. I think these guys saw a pro football player, and wanted to arrest a "famous person"

I agree, If you can afford a lawyer then dont blow, they can easily get Reck Op and get the license suspension overturned.

Ill overlook the double standard for now.

When Steiny gets arrested three more times, then it'll be a double standard

[derekshank]

In the grand scheme of things is this really that big of a deal? No. But you can't help but wonder if this reinforces the need to make an example out of someone. Marvin chewed all their asses out the first day of camp, and let them know how important it is not to be doing stupid things. The very next weekend, Steiny does this. At the very least it indicates that the players didn't take him too seriously.

You can think what you want about the law... but operating a boat under the influence is at the least stupid. It would at least be a lot easier to drown. I don't know how small of a deal it would seem if he had wrecked his boat under the influence, and had been injured. I doubt anyone would be here saying it was no big deal to lose Steiny for a few weeks of the season because he had hurt himself while driving a boat drunk.

[BengalByTheBay]

Probably pee'd too...

Best 6th post ever!

[skyline]

Ok resign Willie and cut Steinbach. Im sick of this $h*+!

Wow lets let a probowl guard go because he was drinking well fishing like 95% of america does.

There's fish alive in the Ohio River???

[Kirkendall]

You can think what you want about the law... but operating a boat under the influence is at the least stupid. It would at least be a lot easier to drown. I don't know how small of a deal it would seem if he had wrecked his boat under the influence, and had been injured. I doubt anyone would be here saying it was no big deal to lose Steiny for a few weeks of the season because he had hurt himself while driving a boat drunk.

None of that happened.

[derekshank]

You can think what you want about the law... but operating a boat under the influence is at the least stupid. It would at least be a lot easier to drown. I don't know how small of a deal it would seem if he had wrecked his boat under the influence, and had been injured. I doubt anyone would be here saying it was no big deal to lose Steiny for a few weeks of the season because he had hurt himself while driving a boat drunk.

None of that happened.

It's nice to see that you have a mastery of the obvious. Ben Roethlisberger was probably thinking "I've never been in an accident before" when he decided not to wear a helmet. The point is, driving your boat drunk is stupid at best, and at worst deadly. My point is that the action wasn't less stupid just because he's only getting a slap on the wrist. It could have been much worse.

And... it shows he doesn't really respect the advice of the coaching staff who warned the entire team less than a week ago not to further embarrass the Bengals. It was stupid. Stupid, stupid stupid.

[Kirkendall]

OK, IF we have all the facts that he drank 53 beers in the span of 20 minutes on an empty stomach, then I'll agree it was stupid. But I don't know if he had 2 beers and he's just super-uncoordinated. I'd hate to assume as much with a guy that's been nothing more than a model citizen that's very reachable to fans.

We'll agree that you think it's stupid and I'll hold judgment until I know more that's not coming from the MSM and limited beat writer reports recapping the season's mythical "character" problems.

On a seperate note, did you read the new phone number that's being implemented because of stupid fans drinking at the game. Man, stupid is EVERYWHERE!

[derekshank]

OK, IF we have all the facts that he drank 53 beers in the span of 20 minutes on an empty stomach, then I'll agree it was stupid. But I don't know if he had 2 beers and he's just super-uncoordinated. I'd hate to assume as much with a guy that's been nothing more than a model citizen that's very reachable to fans.

We'll agree that you think it's stupid and I'll hold judgment until I know more that's not coming from the MSM and limited beat writer reports recapping the season's mythical "character" problems.

On a seperate note, did you read the new phone number that's being implemented because of stupid fans drinking at the game. Man, stupid is EVERYWHERE!

According to the site, he failed 4 of 5 sobriety tests. I doubt that he's "super-uncoordinated" and if he is, I'll be happy to see someone else take his spot as a starting O-lineman responsible for the protection of Carson Palmer.

I did hear about the phone number though. I think it's agreat idea. People don't have to worry about bringing their kids to the game anymore. I'm not against beer. I like to drink a little myself... but self-control and moderation are the things that separate us from the animals and Chris Henry.

[rishipatel]

It's nice to see that you have a mastery of the obvious. Ben Roethlisberger was probably thinking "I've never been in an accident before" when he decided not to wear a helmet. The point is, driving your boat drunk is stupid at best, and at worst deadly. My point is that the action wasn't less stupid just because he's only getting a slap on the wrist. It could have been much worse.

And... it shows he doesn't really respect the advice of the coaching staff who warned the entire team less than a week ago not to further embarrass the Bengals. It was stupid. Stupid, stupid stupid.

Yeah, it's not smart to drive a boat while drunk, but it doesn't sound like he was hammered. It sounds like he had a few beers, went a little too fast through a slow zone, and had some prick cop decide to make a bigger deal than it needed to be. Plenty of people driving boats have had a few drinks, but most river cops would have just given them a warning in this circumstance. It's a combo of bad luck, dumb cop, and poor choice by Steinbach. And field sobriety tests aren't even interpreted correctly by some cops. Since he was smart enough to refuse the breathalyzer, his lawyer can probably get him off with a slap on the hand.

[derekshank]

Sure... but the very fact that he refused the breathalyzer shows me that he knew he had more than "a few beers." When Henry failed his breathalyzer it was only by .011 (if I remember correctly). THat says to me that he didn't think he was too drunk to drive. Steny knew he was too drunk, and did it anyway. Which one is dumber? I'll let you be the judge... but the answer seems obvious to me.

[Kirkendall]

I did hear about the phone number though. I think it's agreat idea. People don't have to worry about bringing their kids to the game anymore. I'm not against beer. I like to drink a little myself... but self-control and moderation are the things that separate us from the animals and Chris Henry.

Yea, I think the number is a great idea. I think the issue was brought up a while ago on this board where alcohol posed a serious problem at a game -- perhaps Jax? I still believe there will be a day when the league will have to ban all alcohol sales. Didn't a NY Jets game on MNF do that already? Maybe this phone number will settle that issue so we can have a nice cold one rather than getting it all taken away because 20 idiots in the parking lot get drunk and see a Steelers jersey and feel like God Speaking to Moses to harrass and beat the living hell out of them.

Sure... but the very fact that he refused the breathalyzer shows me that he knew he had more than "a few beers." When Henry failed his breathalyzer it was only by .011 (if I remember correctly). THat says to me that he didn't think he was too drunk to drive. Steny knew he was too drunk, and did it anyway. Which one is dumber? I'll let you be the judge... but the answer seems obvious to me.

D, I don't think this is a matter of guilt or not. This is to save your ass in court, more or less.

[BlainThePain]

Not much I can say to criticize this one. He was a little tipsy while fishing. I've been doing that since I was 12.

[jditty47]

water laws are being enforced alot more now a days than ever before. ive gotten multiple tickets on my jet ski over the past couple years - and they will pull u over every time for making wake in a no wake zone if they see u.

5 in one offseason...this has to be some kind of record for proffessional sports - especially for seperate incidences.

[BlainThePain]

water laws are being enforced alot more now a days than ever before. ive gotten multiple tickets on my jet ski over the past couple years - and they will pull u over every time for making wake in a no wake zone if they see u.

5 in one offseason...this has to be some kind of record for proffessional sports - especially for seperate incidences.

I doubt that's a record. Remember the Cowboys from the early 90's?

[bengalboy]

Welcome To The Jungle should be replaced. I think AC/DC's Jailbreak is a better fit.

[schweinhart]

I doubt this one sits too well with the organization. It's halfway through training camp and there's old Einsteiny out goofing up on the water. You'd think he might have a little more sense than put himself in the position at this time in the year.

They probably will hand down some punishment to him. Probably just go through the motions and not start him for some game to be determined later in the season.

But what could be worse punishment for him than Whitworth going in as the starting LG for the 1st preseason game and indeed beating him out for the season, which would hit Einsteiny square in the wallet big time. That 6-pack could cost him a couple $million come free agency if Whitworth does get that chance and shows he's smart enough and quick enough because he's definitely much stronger than Steinbach.

Wow, you certainly have a lot of faith in a guy who's never played a down of pro ball. YOu expect him to step in for the first pre-season game at a new position and beat out a PROBOWLER?

Wait a second, weren't you one of the guys pissed about the pick bcause he wasn't good enough?

Wow, you got me there.

Wait a second.....aren't you the

GREAT BIG IGMO

I had Whitworth going at #59 but must say I didn't really want the Bengals to draft an O-Lineman at all. The hope was to extend the current line including Einsteiny. But that time to extend Einsteiny most likely passed once last season started.

Now, it's just a good excuse to get Whitworth's feet wet with the 1st team minus Palmer. Especially since Whitworth is the most likely player to replace Steinbach next year and would most likely be the 1st off the bench at all O-line positions except for center.

[aaronburr]

But refusing the breath test was dumb.

Actually, no it wasn't. It gives his lawyer more to work with getting Steiny off the hook.

I grew up right on the river, boated and drank a million times and never been caught. I've had buddies let off a thousand times for this. I might get battered because of the Henry thread, but this is horses**t. I think these guys saw a pro football player, and wanted to arrest a "famous person"

I agree, If you can afford a lawyer then dont blow, they can easily get Reck Op and get the license suspension overturned.

Are you guys lawyers? 'Cause in many places refusing the breathalizer is an automatic suspension of your license. Much worse punishment than a typical first offender DUI/Wet Reckless. Nothing a lawyer can do about it. Plus, cops are trained in testifying at DUI trials -- they don't need test results to screw you.

But then I'm not river folk, so I don't know how things work there.

And like I mentioned in another thread, I don't know if there's a direct connection between boating and the vehicle code. Or whether your Ohio license is affected by infractions in Kentucky.

But still, I've never heard a lawyer say its a good idea to refuse the test. Just last week I saw a lawyer try to justify his client refusing a test. Guilty verdict came back 5 minutes later.