Kazkal Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Not saying their carson,brady or manning,but do you think if they were on teams with a Oline that could protect them they still be as bad as they have been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 No, I don't think they'd be as bad, but the difference wouldn't be huge. Harrington and Carr have potential, and I think could be more successful on better teams. Boller just sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 I think David Carr could be very good on a decent team. I think Harrington's a crybaby p***y and Boller plain sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smackdown625 Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Carr suffers from a bad o-line. Harrington is just weak, and Boller just sucks ass.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Everyone of these QB's would succeed with a good offensive line. Just about any NFL caliber QB will look good if they've got all day to throw. That's why the Bengals made guys like Charlie Frye look good last year All of these guys possess the ability to throw the ball. I think what defines QB's is their decision making. You have to have the ability to process information at an amazing speed( Imagine trying to see if three guys are open in 3-5 seconds with large, anrgy, bad intented men chasing you) Look at the greats (Tom brady, Peyton manning, Joe Montana, Brett Favre, Johny U, CARSON PALMER) Some guys have a strong arm(Favre,Palmer) others don't (Montana, Brady) but they all had the amazing ability to make the right decision, and perform their task under immense pressure(physically and mentally)I believe Carr is the best of the three(but has the worst O-line) Harrington can play, but needs help(a really good O-line) and Boller looks visibly scatterbrained while in the pocket(needs a shrink) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 I just heard a guy on ESPN Radio talking about the very same thing. His theory is that these guys were all coached up by Jeff Tedford and he is able to mask some of their shortcomings. His offense uses alot of max-protection schemes to give the QB more time. He went on to say that these guys do so well in college that even the NFL scouts are fooled. Harrington was 27-3 at Oregon.As an example, year before Tedford came to Cal, Kyle Boller's completion percentage was 36%. Tedford comes in and he goes early in the first round. However, the longer they are away from him, the more the revert to previous form and basically fizzle out.Aaron Rodgers (GB) dropped to 24th after much speculation that he would be the first guy picked last year. Perhaps the reputation is beginning to catch up to Tedford's players.He was at Fresno State before David Carr was so I don't know if there is a connection there or not. He also coached Trent Dilfer, Billy Volek and AJ Feeley.Remember that this guy somehow got Akili Smith drafted third in 1999. http://calbears.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/m...ord_jeff00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smackdown625 Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 I just heard a guy on ESPN Radio talking about the very same thing. His theory is that these guys were all coached up by Jeff Tedford and he is able to mask some of their shortcomings. His offense uses alot of max-protection schemes to give the QB more time. He went on to say that these guys do so well in college that even the NFL scouts are fooled. Harrington was 27-3 at Oregon.As an example, year before Tedford came to Cal, Kyle Boller's completion percentage was 36%. Tedford comes in and he goes early in the first round. However, the longer they are away from him, the more the revert to previous form and basically fizzle out.Aaron Rodgers (GB) dropped to 24th after much speculation that he would be the first guy picked last year. Perhaps the reputation is beginning to catch up to Tedford's players.He was at Fresno State before David Carr was so I don't know if there is a connection there or not. He also coached Trent Dilfer, Billy Volek and AJ Feeley.Remember that this guy somehow got Akili Smith drafted third in 1999. http://calbears.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/m...ord_jeff00.htmlWow. That's an odd coincidence....And it fits everything perfectly. I actually think that makes sense because it has happened with 7 different QB's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrandom42 Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 I just heard a guy on ESPN Radio talking about the very same thing. His theory is that these guys were all coached up by Jeff Tedford and he is able to mask some of their shortcomings. His offense uses alot of max-protection schemes to give the QB more time. He went on to say that these guys do so well in college that even the NFL scouts are fooled. Harrington was 27-3 at Oregon.As an example, year before Tedford came to Cal, Kyle Boller's completion percentage was 36%. Tedford comes in and he goes early in the first round. However, the longer they are away from him, the more the revert to previous form and basically fizzle out.Aaron Rodgers (GB) dropped to 24th after much speculation that he would be the first guy picked last year. Perhaps the reputation is beginning to catch up to Tedford's players.He was at Fresno State before David Carr was so I don't know if there is a connection there or not. He also coached Trent Dilfer, Billy Volek and AJ Feeley.Remember that this guy somehow got Akili Smith drafted third in 1999. http://calbears.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/m...ord_jeff00.htmlWow. That's an odd coincidence....And it fits everything perfectly. I actually think that makes sense because it has happened with 7 different QB'sJeff Tedford has gotten a reputation as a 'smoke and mirrors' coach, making marginal college quarterbacks look spectacular enough to draft in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted June 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Carr suffers from a bad o-line. Harrington is just weak, and Boller just sucks ass....Harrington had 2 out of 3 WR's turn out busts had no protection (which also killed the run game)the 3rd WR was a rookie so coulden't expect much they diden't have TE as weapon he had nothing as a lion.I just heard a guy on ESPN Radio talking about the very same thing. His theory is that these guys were all coached up by Jeff Tedford and he is able to mask some of their shortcomings. His offense uses alot of max-protection schemes to give the QB more time. He went on to say that these guys do so well in college that even the NFL scouts are fooled. Harrington was 27-3 at Oregon.As an example, year before Tedford came to Cal, Kyle Boller's completion percentage was 36%. Tedford comes in and he goes early in the first round. However, the longer they are away from him, the more the revert to previous form and basically fizzle out.Aaron Rodgers (GB) dropped to 24th after much speculation that he would be the first guy picked last year. Perhaps the reputation is beginning to catch up to Tedford's players.He was at Fresno State before David Carr was so I don't know if there is a connection there or not. He also coached Trent Dilfer, Billy Volek and AJ Feeley.Remember that this guy somehow got Akili Smith drafted third in 1999. http://calbears.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/m...ord_jeff00.htmlVolek went undrafted and is better then half the starters in the nfl right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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