Warrant is out for the arrest of Nicholson...

[ArmyBengal]

I'm just glad, as already mentioned, he hasn't been signed yet. Anyway around, the staff has to take a hit on this one. Nicholson may have talent, but he hasn't even gotten on the field to have the chance to bring it. At least Henry produced at the next level before he started acting the d*mn fool !!!

WHODEY !!!

[Dadraftnick]

To everyone that has said that character does not matter ----WRONG----

To everyone that thought Rucker and Nicholson were nice picks -- maybe you need to re-evaluate your assesments of them.

Look for the two women that accused Rucker and Nicholson of attempeted rape to file civil suits,now that they have the big bucks, which if it happens will no doubt be carried on ESPN and court TV and make the Bengals the laughing stock of the league and be a major distraction for the team.

Not to mention Nicholson will no doubt be suspended if he is convicted.

We are still waiting to see how long Henry will get suspended--if he doesn't do something (stupid)to get even more time off while he is waiting for his numerous cases to run their course.

CHARACTER MATTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[redsbengalsbucks]

This case seems to look like an old arguement resurfacing between a player that could not make it to the next level and one that did.

Looks to me like the player that did not make it wants a piece of the money that the player that did make it will recieve. Settlement out of court between the two parties and dropping the charges maybe the next step.

It is to bad that his previous actions have resulted in everyone jumping to the conclusion that he is guilty, lets here the facts of the case before we make a judgement on this young player.

Remember, I have never been a fan of this draft pick.

[GapControl]

Let`s try to be optimistic about this people. It could be a lot worse. Doesn`t seem like an open and shut case at all for Nicholson. And Rucker hasn`t done anything as of yet. How many times have roommates cheated each other out of rent or property? Maybe the guy simply wanted his stuff back or some money which was owed to him. If this is so, I am not justifying his actions but he hasn`t had the chance to tell his story.

Playing devil`s advocate, it is starting to sound a tad bit like Huggins` Bearcats down at PBS.

But I always loved the Bearcats anyway. Sort of like a bemused father and his radical, antisocial son.

[princeton]

to me, the bigger issue was that he seems to have showed up fat and slow at the combine

to have all of that off-field baggage already, then to have literally brought another carry-on onto the field with him... it's clear why some of the teams refused to waste a pick on him. It's less clear why the Bengals weren't one of those teams

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

To everyone that has said that character does not matter ----WRONG----

To everyone that thought Rucker and Nicholson were nice picks -- maybe you need to re-evaluate your assesments of them.

Look for the two women that accused Rucker and Nicholson of attempeted rape to file civil suits,now that they have the big bucks, which if it happens will no doubt be carried on ESPN and court TV and make the Bengals the laughing stock of the league and be a major distraction for the team.

Not to mention Nicholson will no doubt be suspended if he is convicted.

We are still waiting to see how long Henry will get suspended--if he doesn't do something (stupid)to get even more time off while he is waiting for his numerous cases to run their course.

CHARACTER MATTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Neither Rucker nor Nicholson were even taken to COURT over these accusations of rape. The women can feel free to file civil suits, but any lawyer is going to tell them that without enough evidence against them for the DA to even bother to file charges, they aren't going to win.

On that note, Justin Smith tried to rape my momma's dog! Now he's got a bad character, right? It's one thing for people to say things, and another for them to be convicted.

[Spain]

Risk gain you want first round talent in the fifth you have to risk it. Simmilar ? were raised about Odel and he has matured.

[schweinhart]

One thing for 2nd and 3rd rounders like Thurman and Henry getting the benefit of the doubt, especially lacking the kind of off-the-field history Nicholson has. A 5th rounder is not big deal to ax if it comes to it. Maybe there's an explanation that will convince the Bengals to keep him, but it probably won't matter much either way.

Mark Anderson 2 picks later and Charles Davis 10 picks later do look a whole lot beter in the hindsight. Still, I wouldn't hold Nicholson against the Bengals for rolling the dice on a decently skilled LB that late in the draft.

The Frostee comparison to Nicholson shouldn't get much consideration. The assault claim against Rucker was a while back -- before he transferred to USC IIRC. The bigger concern for me about Rucker is how victimized he'll be on the field if he gets a shot to play. One thing to gamble on a character risk on Day 2. Another thing altogether to blow a Day 1 pick based on talent evaluation. Hopefully Frostee can bring at least what Big Duane left behind.

[GROIIIDayton]

These charges are going to be dropped one guy is bitterthe other one made it somewhere while he is sitting on his ass pouting. Watch I bet it was either AJ's stuff or it looks very possible he could have been set up. Think about it why would he do this no one would steal something like that knowing they were going to get caught if they were about to make 1.2-1.4 million over the next three years. There is a lot more to this story then is out there. So give it some time it isn't as bad as it seems.

[Edogger]

And the sad part is the fact that he stole the equipment AFTER he was drafted!?!? What the...AFTER he was drafted! That is just plain crazy man! That is like letting your family live in a house in Southern Cal for your senior season while an agent doesn't charge them rent...oh wait?!?!

[Section 310]

These charges are going to be dropped one guy is bitterthe other one made it somewhere while he is sitting on his ass pouting. Watch I bet it was either AJ's stuff or it looks very possible he could have been set up. Think about it why would he do this no one would steal something like that knowing they were going to get caught if they were about to make 1.2-1.4 million over the next three years. There is a lot more to this story then is out there. So give it some time it isn't as bad as it seems.

Nearly every person caught shoplifting has the money in their pocket to pay for whatever the hell they decided to steal. Nicholson's pattern of behavior suggests he is a freakin moron.

[Jet23]

Apparently, they robbed one of their own teammates!

If i was Chad, I wouldn't just leave my gold teeth laying around in my locker!

And that is why he will never be offered a contract. Just because a guy has a brush with the law (see Ravens roster) doesn't necessarily mean that they will be a distraction in the locker room. BUT, when you have to worry about what you leave lying around, because some thieving a$$ thug was signed, that is a problem.

It was a calculated risk by Marvin, it just doesn't appear to have panned out. He burned a fifth round pick on a first day talent and it didn't work out. To me, it was worth the risk. Let's face it, their roster is to the point where fifth round picks are not guaranteed a roster spot anyway.

However, my first reaction was like TNBG. It sounded kind of fishy, or maybe it was some type of property dispute with an ex-buddy, but given his past, he is probably guilty of something.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Apparently, they robbed one of their own teammates!

If i was Chad, I wouldn't just leave my gold teeth laying around in my locker!

And that is why he will never be offered a contract. Just because a guy has a brush with the law (see Ravens roster) doesn't necessarily mean that they will be a distraction in the locker room. BUT, when you have to worry about what you leave lying around, because some thieving a$$ thug was signed, that is a problem.

It was a calculated risk by Marvin, it just doesn't appear to have panned out. He burned a fifth round pick on a first day talent and it didn't work out. To me, it was worth the risk. Let's face it, their roster is to the point where fifth round picks are not guaranteed a roster spot anyway.

However, my first reaction was like TNBG. It sounded kind of fishy, or maybe it was some type of property dispute with an ex-buddy, but given his past, he is probably guilty of something.

Given his past? What has been PROVEN rather than asserted?

[HairOnFire]

The Frostee comparison to Nicholson shouldn't get much consideration. The assault claim against Rucker was a while back -- before he transferred to USC IIRC.

Agreed. This debate seems too quick to lump every prospect with character issues together. I'll suggest that each prospect has to be evaluated individually, and the decision to draft that player has to be weighed against the round where the player was selected. Finally, Bengal fans need to consider that the team does have a long history of taking chances on players that were labeled risks, and several of those players rank amongst the teams best players. How many of us wore Corey Dillon jerseys?

Last, opinions about how Rucker will perform in the pros aside, his past history doesn't show a pattern of behavior that would suggest he'll move from one incident to the next. That's not exactly true of Nicholson.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Someone please show where there is a pattern of CONFIRMED bad behavior by Nicholson?

[Bobcat Bengal]

Post deleted by a laughing moderator, and perpetrator banned.

Ah dude, don't do that to us. You know we're all dying to know what he said. Can't you copy/paste and PM interested parties? I'd even donate some zone dollars to the lottery or charity of your choice.

I'll shoot you a PM then. I dare not spread cyber gossip all over a good thread!

Shoot me a PM then, cuz I wanna know what that stupid ass muthaf**ker said too.

[kingwilly]

Here is your pattern. What more do you want....convicted or not...explainable or not...this is a pattern. This is not the kind of person I'd Draft/Hire...no matter the ability to contribute when just as viable options were available.

1. DUI Arrest - convicted (plead no contest)... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/005435.php

2. Resisting an Officer Arrest (then tasered) - charges dropped... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/005220.php

3. Accused of Sexual Assault...Suspended from Team/Sent home from Orange Bowl.... no charges filed... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/006312.php

4. Warrant Issued for Arrest...due to 2 pending Felony charges for theft... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/006511.php

Pattern:noun - 2: a customary way of operation or behavior; "it is their practice to give annual raises"; "they changed their dietary pattern" "A.J. Nicholson has a pattern of making poor decision as it relates to behavior that falls outside the boundaries of agreed upon rules, policies or practices"[syn: practice]

Aslo: a recognizably consistent series of related acts <found a pattern of discrimination in that company> <a pattern of racketeering activity> a reliable sample of traits, acts, tendencies, or other observable characteristics of A.J. Nicholson.

[HairOnFire]

Post deleted by a laughing moderator, and perpetrator banned.

Ah dude, don't do that to us. You know we're all dying to know what he said. Can't you copy/paste and PM interested parties? I'd even donate some zone dollars to the lottery or charity of your choice.

I'll shoot you a PM then. I dare not spread cyber gossip all over a good thread!

Shoot me a PM then, cuz I wanna know what that stupid ass muthaf**ker said too.

Let me help. A certain mod was implored to kiss...with much gusto...the Bengal striped orbs of a now departed poster.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Here is your pattern. What more do you want....convicted or not...explainable or not...this is a pattern. This is not the kind of person I'd Draft/Hire...no matter the ability to contribute when just as viable options were available.

1. DUI Arrest - convicted (plead no contest)... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/005435.php

2. Resisting an Officer Arrest (then tasered) - charges dropped... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/005220.php

3. Accused of Sexual Assault...Suspended from Team/Sent home from Orange Bowl.... no charges filed... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/006312.php

4. Warrant Issued for Arrest...due to 2 pending Felony charges for theft... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/006511.php

1. DUI - Do you realize just how many NFL players have been arrested for DUI? Oh, and were you not one of the people supporting Bob Huggins when he was busted for being so wasted he couldn't SPELL DUI? It's a big deal, but not out of the ordinary for someone of his age.

2. Resisting an Officer Arrest - THERE IS A REASON THE CHARGES WERE DROPPED! Sorry, like I said, this doesn't count because it's an accusation that did not hold up.

3. ACCUSED of Sexual Assault - NO CHARGES FILED! If there were evidence, he would have been at LEAST charged, not just accused. Can't hold this one against him. Unless we hold it against you that I am now going to say that you attempted to rape my grandmother while she was in the morgue. You sicko! You must of course have this held against you!

4. Warrant issued for arrest - based on a guy who confessed dropping his old teammate's name, who he is jealous of seeing go into the NFL and live his dream. You can't hold this against him until there is EVIDENCE presented, CHARGES filed, and a CONVICTION or even a SETTLEMENT handed down.

PS: Kingwilly didn't really rape my granny, so no charges were filed.

[Jet23]

Here is your pattern. What more do you want....convicted or not...explainable or not...this is a pattern. This is not the kind of person I'd Draft/Hire...no matter the ability to contribute when just as viable options were available.

1. DUI Arrest - convicted (plead no contest)... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/005435.php

2. Resisting an Officer Arrest (then tasered) - charges dropped... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/005220.php

3. Accused of Sexual Assault...Suspended from Team/Sent home from Orange Bowl.... no charges filed... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/006312.php

4. Warrant Issued for Arrest...due to 2 pending Felony charges for theft... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/006511.php

1. DUI - Do you realize just how many NFL players have been arrested for DUI? Oh, and were you not one of the people supporting Bob Huggins when he was busted for being so wasted he couldn't SPELL DUI? It's a big deal, but not out of the ordinary for someone of his age.

2. Resisting an Officer Arrest - THERE IS A REASON THE CHARGES WERE DROPPED! Sorry, like I said, this doesn't count because it's an accusation that did not hold up.

3. ACCUSED of Sexual Assault - NO CHARGES FILED! If there were evidence, he would have been at LEAST charged, not just accused. Can't hold this one against him. Unless we hold it against you that I am now going to say that you attempted to rape my grandmother while she was in the morgue. You sicko! You must of course have this held against you!

4. Warrant issued for arrest - based on a guy who confessed dropping his old teammate's name, who he is jealous of seeing go into the NFL and live his dream. You can't hold this against him until there is EVIDENCE presented, CHARGES filed, and a CONVICTION or even a SETTLEMENT handed down.

PS: Kingwilly didn't really rape my granny, so no charges were filed.

After reading your defense of good ole AJ I think we can all agree that perhaps we prematurely judged his character. I wonder if he is available to babysit. You don't happen to have his phone number do ya TNBT?

[scott91575]

Here is your pattern. What more do you want....convicted or not...explainable or not...this is a pattern. This is not the kind of person I'd Draft/Hire...no matter the ability to contribute when just as viable options were available.

1. DUI Arrest - convicted (plead no contest)... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/005435.php

2. Resisting an Officer Arrest (then tasered) - charges dropped... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/005220.php

3. Accused of Sexual Assault...Suspended from Team/Sent home from Orange Bowl.... no charges filed... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/006312.php

4. Warrant Issued for Arrest...due to 2 pending Felony charges for theft... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/006511.php

1. DUI - Do you realize just how many NFL players have been arrested for DUI? Oh, and were you not one of the people supporting Bob Huggins when he was busted for being so wasted he couldn't SPELL DUI? It's a big deal, but not out of the ordinary for someone of his age.

2. Resisting an Officer Arrest - THERE IS A REASON THE CHARGES WERE DROPPED! Sorry, like I said, this doesn't count because it's an accusation that did not hold up.

3. ACCUSED of Sexual Assault - NO CHARGES FILED! If there were evidence, he would have been at LEAST charged, not just accused. Can't hold this one against him. Unless we hold it against you that I am now going to say that you attempted to rape my grandmother while she was in the morgue. You sicko! You must of course have this held against you!

4. Warrant issued for arrest - based on a guy who confessed dropping his old teammate's name, who he is jealous of seeing go into the NFL and live his dream. You can't hold this against him until there is EVIDENCE presented, CHARGES filed, and a CONVICTION or even a SETTLEMENT handed down.

PS: Kingwilly didn't really rape my granny, so no charges were filed.

One problem, hey, happens to the best of us. Two, even just an accusation...well, maybe wrong place at the wrong time. Three, starts to look like a pattern. Four, and there has to be some serious questions. He either has serious character issues, or he is really stupid in choosing where and whom he hangs out with.

[kingwilly]

Here is your pattern. What more do you want....convicted or not...explainable or not...this is a pattern. This is not the kind of person I'd Draft/Hire...no matter the ability to contribute when just as viable options were available.

1. DUI Arrest - convicted (plead no contest)... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/005435.php

2. Resisting an Officer Arrest (then tasered) - charges dropped... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/005220.php

3. Accused of Sexual Assault...Suspended from Team/Sent home from Orange Bowl.... no charges filed... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/006312.php

4. Warrant Issued for Arrest...due to 2 pending Felony charges for theft... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/006511.php

1. DUI - Do you realize just how many NFL players have been arrested for DUI? Oh, and were you not one of the people supporting Bob Huggins when he was busted for being so wasted he couldn't SPELL DUI? It's a big deal, but not out of the ordinary for someone of his age.

2. Resisting an Officer Arrest - THERE IS A REASON THE CHARGES WERE DROPPED! Sorry, like I said, this doesn't count because it's an accusation that did not hold up.

3. ACCUSED of Sexual Assault - NO CHARGES FILED! If there were evidence, he would have been at LEAST charged, not just accused. Can't hold this one against him. Unless we hold it against you that I am now going to say that you attempted to rape my grandmother while she was in the morgue. You sicko! You must of course have this held against you!

4. Warrant issued for arrest - based on a guy who confessed dropping his old teammate's name, who he is jealous of seeing go into the NFL and live his dream. You can't hold this against him until there is EVIDENCE presented, CHARGES filed, and a CONVICTION or even a SETTLEMENT handed down.

PS: Kingwilly didn't really rape my granny, so no charges were filed.

1. I guess since everyone is doing it, it must be OK. Hell, why donl't we just legalize it and rid ourselves of the hassles.

2. Just because the charges are dropped does not erase the circumstances and actions that led to the situation....for all we know it was mistaken identity, or the arresting officer is a cousin of an assistant coach. We can specualte all day but what remains is the details that led to the TASERING and ARREST.

3. There was enough to suspend him from the team and send him packing just before the Orange Bowl. Team ules violations also count towards the pattern of disregard for authority, rules, pilicies, etc. To dismiss the incident based on lack of charges does not erase the cuircumstances, decisions, behaviors, choices made that contribute to the situation.

4. There was enough proable cause and evidence to issue felony warrants. Not a good sign. Charges are filed. That is how you get the warrant for the arrest.

Call me crazy but these incidents are patternistic. You can try to argue otherwise but you'd be wrong.

Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck, fly's like a duck, quacks like a duck...but you'd probably argue it could be a turkey and demand a DNA test.

[bengalboomer7]

Here is your pattern. What more do you want....convicted or not...explainable or not...this is a pattern. This is not the kind of person I'd Draft/Hire...no matter the ability to contribute when just as viable options were available.

1. DUI Arrest - convicted (plead no contest)... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/005435.php

2. Resisting an Officer Arrest (then tasered) - charges dropped... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/005220.php

3. Accused of Sexual Assault...Suspended from Team/Sent home from Orange Bowl.... no charges filed... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/006312.php

4. Warrant Issued for Arrest...due to 2 pending Felony charges for theft... http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/006511.php

1. DUI - Do you realize just how many NFL players have been arrested for DUI? Oh, and were you not one of the people supporting Bob Huggins when he was busted for being so wasted he couldn't SPELL DUI? It's a big deal, but not out of the ordinary for someone of his age.

2. Resisting an Officer Arrest - THERE IS A REASON THE CHARGES WERE DROPPED! Sorry, like I said, this doesn't count because it's an accusation that did not hold up.

3. ACCUSED of Sexual Assault - NO CHARGES FILED! If there were evidence, he would have been at LEAST charged, not just accused. Can't hold this one against him. Unless we hold it against you that I am now going to say that you attempted to rape my grandmother while she was in the morgue. You sicko! You must of course have this held against you!

4. Warrant issued for arrest - based on a guy who confessed dropping his old teammate's name, who he is jealous of seeing go into the NFL and live his dream. You can't hold this against him until there is EVIDENCE presented, CHARGES filed, and a CONVICTION or even a SETTLEMENT handed down.

PS: Kingwilly didn't really rape my granny, so no charges were filed.

Of all people, I am most suprised to see you defending a criminal. Completely shocked

[HoosierCat]

As much as it pains me to admit, I have to agree (at least in spirit) with TNBT. Nicholson does have a history of run-ins with the law...but arguably the worst was the first, a DUI. Since then he's had a goofy run-in with cops which apparently resembled one of those "capture, tag and release" sequences you used to see on "Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom"; weathered an apparently false sex assualt charge; and now is accused of two felony theft counts, which sounds really scary until you look into the lame nature of the "crime," which apparently involves a bunch of college roomies pulling s**t over rent and some cheap stereo equipment.

This will get reduced to some misdemeanor charge -- one count of being a complete dumbs**t or something like that -- to which he'll plead no contest. He'll get a fine and by September this will all be a distant memory.

[sodikart]

If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit