Krenzel Booted

[Dadraftnick]

Brilliant ! Just Brilliant !!!

Cut the only QB on the team that knows the offence before you have the chance to shake things out and see how bad the other guys are.

And why??------------ TO MAKE ROOM FOR ANOTHER WR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you joking? The one thing we dild NOT need is another WR !!!!!!!!!!!

We did not need WR's before the draft, we draft three in the draft and pick up more ufa's and now we need one more????????

If they ever change the rules to where a guy just throws the ball to as many WR's as possiable or if they ever turn football into track we will have a head start other than that I just dont know what the point is!!!!

How many WR's do you need??? !!!! Its INSANE!!!!!!

Dont get me wrong I know Krenzel sucks but at this point he may be the best option we have.

But cut Krenzel with the QB situation we have for a WR???

At least Krenzel knows the offense and has starting experience in the NFL you cant say that for any else on the team--Palmer sat the first year because the Bengals have a complicated offense.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Dadraftnic, calm down boy. We cut Krenzel because he had a chance to get to know the offense, and apparently FAILED to learn it. He isn't good enough to stay in the NFL, and we aren't the first team to laugh at his attempt and cut him.

Put down the OSU homerism and get a grip.

[HoosierCat]

The plot thickens...

Bengals cut former OSU QB Krenzel

Injury grievance may be filed as player was reportedly hurt during offseason workouts.

By Chick Ludwig

Staff Writer

CINCINNATI | The Bengals waived Craig Krenzel on Monday, but it may not be the last they've heard from the former Ohio State quarterback. He has 25 days to file an injury grievance with the NFL Players Association.

A representative from NC Sports, a suburban Cleveland company that represents Krenzel, told the Dayton Daily News that Krenzel sustained an arm injury, which requires surgery, during the club's offseason workout program.

According to the NFLPA, players who are injured while performing services for their club are entitled to receive their salary for as long as they remain physically unable to play during the season, as well as receive treatment, rehabilitation and medical care.

The NFLPA further states that players who are released while still injured and unable to play because of the injury "must file an injury grievance within 25 days" after their release "to enforce your rights under your player contract."

Once an injury grievance is filed, players are examined by a neutral physician.

"If the neutral physician finds that you are still injured and if the club still refuses to pay you, you will be given a hearing before an arbitrator who will decide your case," the NFLPA said.

Krenzel couldn't be reached for comment. Claimed off waivers from Chicago on June 20, 2005, Krenzel was the Bengals' No. 3 quarterback in 2005. He did not play in the regular season. He was due to earn $425,000 this season.

"We're not going to have any further comment," Bengals spokesman Jack Brennan said.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/cont...516bengals.html

[GapControl]

Doesn`t sound like Marvin or new management to cut Krenzel given the current situation at QB. The report from the Daily News gives credit to the fact that something else was playing into the decision to cut him.

[HairOnFire]

Brilliant ! Just Brilliant !!!

Cut the only QB on the team that knows the offence before you have the chance to shake things out and see how bad the other guys are.

And why??------------ TO MAKE ROOM FOR ANOTHER WR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Step off the ledge. The Bengals have repeatedly shown a lack of faith in Krenzel's chances to be a factor in this QB race, and that point was driven home with the signing of Anthony Wright months ago. Obviously the news about Krenzel's arm injury may have complicated things (Timing?), but one of the QB's was going to get cut fairly quickly regardless of health issues. There's simply too many marginal QB's on the current roster demanding attention from the coaches. They can't develope them all, and if Krenzel's health crippled his chances then it's an easy decision to make. In fact, he may have been doomed even if completely healthy.

Moving on, reading that Doug Johnson was getting the first crack with the starters sent a cold shiver down my spine, but I quickly reminded myself that we're still in the month of May. In what may be the most important roster battle this preseason Johnson and Wright will each get their chances to earn the #2 spot and the loser of that roster fight isn't guaranteed anything, including the #3 role.

Last, I disagree that Reggie McNeal can't be developed at two positions, WR and QB. His background makes him perfectly suited to be the Bengals emergency QB, and it sounds from other articles like the Bengals are already taking advantage of that. While everone expects him to be developed first and foremost as a WR he'll likely have to make the roster this year as a special team player who can help out at multiple positions. And since there's very little chance he'll contribute as WR this season he can very easily be developed as an emergency QB as well. All we'd be talking about is a little extra film work, a series of private sessions with one of the coaches, and the occasional duty running the scout teams offense whenever a speedy opposing QB will be faced that week. The rest of the time he'd work with the special teams and the offense just as Kevin Walter did.

[derekshank]

C'mon Hair. Krenzel was the snitch.

[HairOnFire]

C'mon Hair. Krenzel was the snitch.

[Jet23]

Dadraftnic, calm down boy. We cut Krenzel because he had a chance to get to know the offense, and apparently FAILED to learn it. He isn't good enough to stay in the NFL, and we aren't the first team to laugh at his attempt and cut him.

Put down the OSU homerism and get a grip.

Just a hunch, but I doubt that Krenzel FAILED to learn anything Thing. He may not have an arm, but I'm pretty sure you would not want to trade Wonderlick scores with him...

[ArmyBengal]

Yep, I guess his millions will have to come as he puts to use the Molecular-Genetics Engineer Degree he got.

The guy has mad smarts !!!

WHODEY !!!

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Dadraftnic, calm down boy. We cut Krenzel because he had a chance to get to know the offense, and apparently FAILED to learn it. He isn't good enough to stay in the NFL, and we aren't the first team to laugh at his attempt and cut him.

Put down the OSU homerism and get a grip.

Just a hunch, but I doubt that Krenzel FAILED to learn anything Thing. He may not have an arm, but I'm pretty sure you would not want to trade Wonderlick scores with him...

Just a hunch, but I doubt Krenzel LEARNED the offense and succeeded. If he had, he wouldn't have been cut. Besides, my comparitive Wonderlick score means nothing. He got beat out by Doug Johnson and a guy who couldn't earn a starters job over Kyle Boller. That says EVERYTHING!

[Jet23]

Dadraftnic, calm down boy. We cut Krenzel because he had a chance to get to know the offense, and apparently FAILED to learn it. He isn't good enough to stay in the NFL, and we aren't the first team to laugh at his attempt and cut him.

Put down the OSU homerism and get a grip.

Just a hunch, but I doubt that Krenzel FAILED to learn anything Thing. He may not have an arm, but I'm pretty sure you would not want to trade Wonderlick scores with him...

Just a hunch, but I doubt Krenzel LEARNED the offense and succeeded. If he had, he wouldn't have been cut. Besides, my comparitive Wonderlick score means nothing. He got beat out by Doug Johnson and a guy who couldn't earn a starters job over Kyle Boller. That says EVERYTHING!

Or, maybe he learned the offense, but just didn't have the physical tools to run it Mr. Wizard. My goodness, it's not rocket science. But, even if it was, he was a flipping molecular genetics major for crying out loud.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Dadraftnic, calm down boy. We cut Krenzel because he had a chance to get to know the offense, and apparently FAILED to learn it. He isn't good enough to stay in the NFL, and we aren't the first team to laugh at his attempt and cut him.

Put down the OSU homerism and get a grip.

Just a hunch, but I doubt that Krenzel FAILED to learn anything Thing. He may not have an arm, but I'm pretty sure you would not want to trade Wonderlick scores with him...

Just a hunch, but I doubt Krenzel LEARNED the offense and succeeded. If he had, he wouldn't have been cut. Besides, my comparitive Wonderlick score means nothing. He got beat out by Doug Johnson and a guy who couldn't earn a starters job over Kyle Boller. That says EVERYTHING!

Or, maybe he learned the offense, but just didn't have the physical tools to run it Mr. Wizard. My goodness, it's not rocket science. But, even if it was, he was a flipping molecular genetics major for crying out loud.

Either way, he failed to make any impact whatsoever. He has less talent than Kyle Boller and should not have entered the NFL at all. Instead he should be coming up with a cure for Ecema, Psoriasis, or the Black Plague!

[derekshank]

Dadraftnic, calm down boy. We cut Krenzel because he had a chance to get to know the offense, and apparently FAILED to learn it. He isn't good enough to stay in the NFL, and we aren't the first team to laugh at his attempt and cut him.

Put down the OSU homerism and get a grip.

Just a hunch, but I doubt that Krenzel FAILED to learn anything Thing. He may not have an arm, but I'm pretty sure you would not want to trade Wonderlick scores with him...

Just a hunch, but I doubt Krenzel LEARNED the offense and succeeded. If he had, he wouldn't have been cut. Besides, my comparitive Wonderlick score means nothing. He got beat out by Doug Johnson and a guy who couldn't earn a starters job over Kyle Boller. That says EVERYTHING!

Or, maybe he learned the offense, but just didn't have the physical tools to run it Mr. Wizard. My goodness, it's not rocket science. But, even if it was, he was a flipping molecular genetics major for crying out loud.

Either way, he failed to make any impact whatsoever. He has less talent than Kyle Boller and should not have entered the NFL at all. Instead he should be coming up with a cure for Ecema, Psoriasis, or the Black Plague!

Yeah... where does this guy get off watering down the NFL by entering the draft. It's like he was feeling out his options, and wanted to see if he could make it at the next level. What a jerk.

[Spor_tees]

Doesn`t sound like Marvin or new management to cut Krenzel given the current situation at QB. The report from the Daily News gives credit to the fact that something else was playing into the decision to cut him.

How does someone mess up their arm so bad that they need surgery by flipping through pages in a playbook and carrying around a clipboard?

but on another note, it figures that him and Kitna were the snitch...they were doing Bible study and rubbing each others backs at half-time while the trainers were working on Carson's knee...those BASTARDS!

[schweinhart]

Gotta be Wright and Meyer now that Krenzel got Krenzelled.

Hard to really believe Doug Johnson ever takes another NFL snap.

[andybren]

Draftnick -- where do you draw the connection between Krenzel getting cut and the Bengals having too many WR's? I'm not aware of any roster limit at this point in the season that prevents the team from having 10 QB's and 50 WR's, if they so choose.

And if knowing the Bengals offense is so important, why did we even consider signing/drafting any new QB's this year? Not once during all the QB-shopping hype did I hear anybody say Krenzel was all we needed for the #2 spot. Krenzel was mediocre. The Bengals aren't desperate enough to give him a free ride.

HOF -- the beat writers seem to indicate McNeal is going to have his hands full learning a new position. Given his place at the low end of the WR spectrum, it seems unwise to expect him to learn Carson's job as well. Maybe down the road he'll get reps, but for now, he needs to focus on earning a single job, not two.

[KimoTherapy]

I think I mentioned on another thread that Davy Jones was your man and someone retorted with Hambone (I would've said "Flippy").

Very obscure but the point is Hamby is yet another overated Ohayo St. product.

[derekshank]

I think I mentioned on another thread that Davy Jones was your man and someone retorted with Hambone (I would've said "Flippy").

Very obscure but the point is Hamby is yet another overated Ohayo St. product.

Very funny... and yes, very obscure reference to Jack Handy and his wealth of deep thoughts... but yes, I got it.

[HairOnFire]

HOF -- the beat writers seem to indicate McNeal is going to have his hands full learning a new position. Given his place at the low end of the WR spectrum, it seems unwise to expect him to learn Carson's job as well. Maybe down the road he'll get reps, but for now, he needs to focus on earning a single job, not two.

I'm not suggesting that McNeal be developed as a WR/3rd string QB. I'm suggesting that, with the role of emergency QB in mind, he receive whatever extra coaching the staff thinks he can handle. Unless you believe that he'll contribute as a WR this season, which I can't see happening, the extra work shouldn't slow down his developement very much...if at all, and the added value as an emergency QB might help McNeal find a place on the final roster.

Besides, those same beat writers mentioned that the Bengals did in fact use McNeal as a QB at times during rookie camp.

[bengalboomer7]

Craig Krenzel will always have a place in my heart, but the guy just wasn't athletically blesssed enough to be an NFL QB and even with all the smarts he just didn't have enought to make up for the lack of athleticism.

i really think MCneal might be the kind of guy where we only have two QBs on the roster with Reggie as the emergency replacement, but I also think that's a few years down the road.

[cover2]

Krenzel never beat out the guy he replaced. This was home boy crap. Nothing against him!

[andybren]

HOF -- the beat writers seem to indicate McNeal is going to have his hands full learning a new position. Given his place at the low end of the WR spectrum, it seems unwise to expect him to learn Carson's job as well. Maybe down the road he'll get reps, but for now, he needs to focus on earning a single job, not two.

I'm not suggesting that McNeal be developed as a WR/3rd string QB. I'm suggesting that, with the role of emergency QB in mind, he receive whatever extra coaching the staff thinks he can handle. Unless you believe that he'll contribute as a WR this season, which I can't see happening, the extra work shouldn't slow down his developement very much...if at all, and the added value as an emergency QB might help McNeal find a place on the final roster.

Besides, those same beat writers mentioned that the Bengals did in fact use McNeal as a QB at times during rookie camp.

I think the extra coaching should be focused on the position he was drafted for. That he's unlikely to crack the opening lineup the first year as a WR doesn't mean the team should be realign their draft day intentions. But hey, if McNeal wants to put in a few extra hours/days/weeks trying to accomplish what it took Krenzel more than a season of fulltime effort to get, then more power to him.

My reading of the minicamp coverage suggested that McNeal only threw passes to give Meyer a breather. You can't expect 1 QB to take every rep over the course of 5 straight practices.

[HairOnFire]

I think the extra coaching should be focused on the position he was drafted for. That he's unlikely to crack the opening lineup the first year as a WR doesn't mean the team should be realign their draft day intentions. But hey, if McNeal wants to put in a few extra hours/days/weeks trying to accomplish what it took Krenzel more than a season of fulltime effort to get, then more power to him.

I'm betting that Krenzel was expected to be capable of running the entire offense from soup to nuts, a situation far different from the emergency QB role. That said, as a wideout McNeal will be expected to learn the entire offensive playbook, but would practice only those things that are demanded of his position. He'd practice as a wideout. As I've previously mentioned the only real practice time I can envision him getting is as a scout team QB used to prepare the defense when facing an opposing running QB. But I wouldn't think it would take much time to develope McNeil as an emergency QB...he'd be expected to run only a fraction of the playbook under those circumstances, and his greatest asset would be his natural running ability. Think of him as a modern day Tom Matte.

Frankly, I consider McNeil to be a fringe player who isn't a strong candidate to make the final roster unless he shows the ability to fill multiple roles, including contributing on special teams, and as an emergency QB. If judged soley as a WR players like Brazell could easily take his spot.