Section 310 Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 OK, we have missed out on all the frontline guys (and have no chance in hell of signing Arrington). Dexter Jackson looks to be a serviceable player, but Chatman looks to be another Jamal Broussard.In my opinion this offseason will be a waste if we cannot sign an upgrade at DT or re-sign one of our stud lineman. The Bengals have the cap space, so why are they so afraid to use it? And don't make the argument that they want to have the ability to sign one of the June 1 cap casualties...if a team like Washington or Dallas wants the guy, they will get him...despite the lack of cap room. I would be extremely pleased if the Bengals would do the following between now and draft day...1) sign Jamie Martin (he gives us the best ability to win early games), 2) sign Adams or Jackson to shore up the DT spot, 3) get Jones locked up for another 3 or 4 seasons. (Between the two of them, I think it would be easier to fill the hole created by Steinbach's departure...even though I think he is a stud).Finally, if I was absolutely convinced that all the offseason decisions were being made by Marvin Lewis, I would be more comfortable. However, it is hard to believe that Mikey is not lurking in the shadows. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 You actually think all the offseason decisions are made without Mike Brown? Get a clue. Mike Brown has always had his thumb on the franchise, and will until the day he dies. Quote
derekshank Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 It's just not the Bengals style to go after multiple big names free agents. It doesn't make it all loss though. They want flexibility in the cap. Last year everyone complained (including me) about not using up the cap space. Then they extended Palmer mid-season. I assume they'll do the same thing. Leave that cap space open in the event that an unpredicted option becomes available... like Michael Strahan getting cut.However... in the more likely event that something like this doesn't take place... they still have the whole season to use the cap to extend our O-line. Patience is a virtue guys... even if it's boring. This strategy I believe is the most effective long term option... and is what it takes to be contended year in and year out... rather than just one splash of a year, and then back to the basement. Quote
kentjett Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 Both Steinbach and Levi will get long term contracts sometime before the end of the season. If one doesn't, he will be our franchise/transition player and we will retain him. If we sign both, Willie will be our franchise player and we will end up w/ our entire line intact. Arrington is definitely a possibility, there is not a big market for him right know. The Bengals and two other teams are showing interest (Dolphins, Giants) we have twice as much money available to spend then both of them teams. Look for Lavar to be in stripes next year and Martin because nobody else wants to come and be a back-up. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 Dude, you need to relax. There's much more to it than a big name FA. Not only does the line need extending, but Chad is going to be getting a big deal as well. Jackson is an upgrade over ANYTHING we have besides Madieu and to call Chatman Broussard is like calling him depth. That's just way off. Chatman is a much needed upgrade as a punt returner where we finished next to last this past season with Ratliff. the line is going to cost an ASSLOAD of cash so once again, relax. It will be alright !!!WHODEY !!! Quote
AGrizzlyBaer Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 from all the packer fans ive talked with chattman is a very solid pick up. Quote
Dirk Funk Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 I agree with Derek.Because we are not eager to sign big names early doesn't mean we aren't calculating our next move. Between the owners meetings and April's draft you will see some high quality players cut, released, etc.I know someone else mentioned this but New England does this every year. Wait, wait, prices drop, drop, players are picked up at a discount. If we don't make any moves by the week of training camp then I would be concerened. Levi and Eric will get their $$$. Just wait. Quote
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 You actually think all the offseason decisions are made without Mike Brown? Get a clue. Mike Brown has always had his thumb on the franchise, and will until the day he dies.What is it with you and Mike Brown? Anyway, I question how much the recent moves (last 3 years) have been Mike Brown's ideas. Considering he had 15 years to prove he doesn't have the football acumen of his father, I think someone else has to take the credit for turning the team around. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 You actually think all the offseason decisions are made without Mike Brown? Get a clue. Mike Brown has always had his thumb on the franchise, and will until the day he dies.What is it with you and Mike Brown? Anyway, I question how much the recent moves (last 3 years) have been Mike Brown's ideas. Considering he had 15 years to prove he doesn't have the football acumen of his father, I think someone else has to take the credit for turning the team around.He had years of picking the wrong guy to coach the team.He had years of not investing in scouting, and righted that mistake.What's with me and Mike Brown? Perhaps I simply know more about the man than you. Perhaps it's because I know the depths of his loyalty to this city, to his team, to his players, and to the fans. Perhaps it's just because too many asshats can only down him if something goes wrong (ala we didn't sign a certain free agent, it must be Mike Brown's fault), but can't give him credit when something goes right (we made a good draft decision, we signed a former Super Bowl MVP). I'm sick and tired of dipwads who are so stuck in the past they can't see the good of the recent. Quote
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 You actually think all the offseason decisions are made without Mike Brown? Get a clue. Mike Brown has always had his thumb on the franchise, and will until the day he dies.What is it with you and Mike Brown? Anyway, I question how much the recent moves (last 3 years) have been Mike Brown's ideas. Considering he had 15 years to prove he doesn't have the football acumen of his father, I think someone else has to take the credit for turning the team around.He had years of picking the wrong guy to coach the team.He had years of not investing in scouting, and righted that mistake.What's with me and Mike Brown? Perhaps I simply know more about the man than you. Perhaps it's because I know the depths of his loyalty to this city, to his team, to his players, and to the fans. Perhaps it's just because too many asshats can only down him if something goes wrong (ala we didn't sign a certain free agent, it must be Mike Brown's fault), but can't give him credit when something goes right (we made a good draft decision, we signed a former Super Bowl MVP). I'm sick and tired of dipwads who are so stuck in the past they can't see the good of the recent.OK. When we have 15 straight *winning* years, I'll be right there with you with my lips on his cheeks. Until then... Quote
HairOnFire Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 The thing that has always amused me is the idea that Marvin Lewis is a puppet of Mike Brown who has no say in how the teams salary cap is structured. For example, I have no doubt whatsoever that Marvin Lewis was the central figure behind the Bengals interest in Lavar Arrington. But why would everyone assume that it isn't Lewis who determines when a players financial demands are too great? Didn't it seem like Lewis was the one who stepped away from negotiations with other players he had past history with? Jamie Sharper? Peter Boulware? Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 You actually think all the offseason decisions are made without Mike Brown? Get a clue. Mike Brown has always had his thumb on the franchise, and will until the day he dies.What is it with you and Mike Brown? Anyway, I question how much the recent moves (last 3 years) have been Mike Brown's ideas. Considering he had 15 years to prove he doesn't have the football acumen of his father, I think someone else has to take the credit for turning the team around.He had years of picking the wrong guy to coach the team.He had years of not investing in scouting, and righted that mistake.What's with me and Mike Brown? Perhaps I simply know more about the man than you. Perhaps it's because I know the depths of his loyalty to this city, to his team, to his players, and to the fans. Perhaps it's just because too many asshats can only down him if something goes wrong (ala we didn't sign a certain free agent, it must be Mike Brown's fault), but can't give him credit when something goes right (we made a good draft decision, we signed a former Super Bowl MVP). I'm sick and tired of dipwads who are so stuck in the past they can't see the good of the recent.OK. When we have 15 straight *winning* years, I'll be right there with you with my lips on his cheeks. Until then...Hell, if we have 15 straight winning years, I'll be freaking amazed. Show me ONE, just ONE team in the NFL that has had 15 straight winning years since the CBA started. Quote
Spor_tees Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 You actually think all the offseason decisions are made without Mike Brown? Get a clue. Mike Brown has always had his thumb on the franchise, and will until the day he dies.What is it with you and Mike Brown? Anyway, I question how much the recent moves (last 3 years) have been Mike Brown's ideas. Considering he had 15 years to prove he doesn't have the football acumen of his father, I think someone else has to take the credit for turning the team around.He had years of picking the wrong guy to coach the team.He had years of not investing in scouting, and righted that mistake.What's with me and Mike Brown? Perhaps I simply know more about the man than you. Perhaps it's because I know the depths of his loyalty to this city, to his team, to his players, and to the fans. Perhaps it's just because too many asshats can only down him if something goes wrong (ala we didn't sign a certain free agent, it must be Mike Brown's fault), but can't give him credit when something goes right (we made a good draft decision, we signed a former Super Bowl MVP). I'm sick and tired of dipwads who are so stuck in the past they can't see the good of the recent.OK. When we have 15 straight *winning* years, I'll be right there with you with my lips on his cheeks. Until then...Hell, if we have 15 straight winning years, I'll be freaking amazed. Show me ONE, just ONE team in the NFL that has had 15 straight winning years since the CBA started.Well I can show you only one that had 15 straight losing seasons. Quote
Kazkal Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 I rather see us keep levi and eric then sign top Defensive freeagents...the reason our offense is so good is because of our line we lose our line we go ri ght back too losing imo Quote
Stripes Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 Well I can show you only one that had 15 straight losing seasons. Well only twelve of them were actually "losing" seasons, so Mikey's not all bad! Quote
AGrizzlyBaer Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 i really want levi locked up. hope it happens Quote
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