andybren Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 It occurs to me that many teams may be focusing on their top-tier guys and that KW and JJ will get more attention in the next week or so, but still...why no mention of meetings with teams like the Ravens or Bears who could use the offensive help?Or do teams think they can draft players with those compensatory picks who would be just as good, if not better than KW and JJ?Mind you, I want to keep JJ, but I was hoping we'd be able to get an extra 3rd round pick out of the KW situation. I recall getting Landon Johnson with an extra pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 I hope JJ stays around and think most teams aren't exactly willing to give up a third for a WR that really hasn't done a whole hell of a lot except dance around like an assmonkey. Don't get me wrong, I would love to send K-Wash packing for a 3rd rounder, but don't think it's going to happen...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 There have been some rumors that (unnamed) are planning to make offers to them, and that this is another factor in the Bengals' apparent FA inactivity. I certainly could see a team interested in either one waiting a bit, to see if the Bengals eat up any of their sizeable cap space re-signing guys like Levi or Steinbach (who will not come cheap) or even making a surprise big-money bid for Arrington. In which cases(s) the Bengals would have less $$$ to match. But whether the rumored offers-in-waiting are real...who knows?As to KW and JJ themselves, I could see somone offering KW since the draft is pretty weak on WRs this year. But that would actually suprise me more than someone offering JJ, who I think has a lot more potential than he's been able to show here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 If I were a GM interested in either player I'd drag my heals until after the draft. I might I get what I want there, but even if I don't I know that other teams will release players after drafting their replacements. Besides, the Bengals have enough cap room to ensure that unless I drastically overpay I'll just be signing one of their players for them long-term. Last, I've never believed that K-Dub was tendered simpy to get compensation. He'll be a Bengal this season, and so will JJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 If Henry hadn't had his run-ins....KW may not have gotten that high of a tender.Both will likely be back...but again...they are both replaceable if they do go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 higher draft picks and probbley know bengals will match on JJThere have been some rumors that (unnamed) are planning to make offers to them, and that this is another factor in the Bengals' apparent FA inactivity. I certainly could see a team interested in either one waiting a bit, to see if the Bengals eat up any of their sizeable cap space re-signing guys like Levi or Steinbach (who will not come cheap) or even making a surprise big-money bid for Arrington. In which cases(s) the Bengals would have less $$$ to match. But whether the rumored offers-in-waiting are real...who knows?As to KW and JJ themselves, I could see somone offering KW since the draft is pretty weak on WRs this year. But that would actually suprise me more than someone offering JJ, who I think has a lot more potential than he's been able to show here.I think JJ prooved himself preatty well with 3 receiving TD's and a great blocker...FB's don't really do much more then block any more so acourse wont put up insane stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybren Posted March 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 If Henry hadn't had his run-ins....KW may not have gotten that high of a tender.KW was offered the lowest tender possible. (http://kffl.com/player/6288/nfl) It only seems high because he's not worth his original draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Maybe Im spoiled,(watching lorenzo Neil) but JJ misses alot on lead blocking. The guys not bad but I would prefer an upgrade. Give me Bernstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Maybe Im spoiled,(watching lorenzo Neil) but JJ misses alot on lead blocking. The guys not bad but I would prefer an upgrade. Give me Bernstein.JJ misses a lot on lead blocking? And that's why Rudi breaks his own record each year?JJ is going to be as god as Neil if not better by the time he is that deep into his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Maybe Im spoiled,(watching lorenzo Neil) but JJ misses alot on lead blocking. The guys not bad but I would prefer an upgrade. Give me Bernstein.You must be blind. Jeremi Johnson was actually singled out some on NFL Live's game break downs last year. You have to be one hell of a fullback to get noticed and he does. He is an amazing lead blocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Maybe Im spoiled,(watching lorenzo Neil) but JJ misses alot on lead blocking. The guys not bad but I would prefer an upgrade. Give me Bernstein. Spain, I'm pleading with you, put down the pipe please. JJ is a beast and doesn't get the recognition he should...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Spain, I'm pleading with you, put down the pipe please. I just read in the paper about all the arrests associated with Barcelona's festival of the "Big Bottle" where people too poor to afford a real drink, or too young to get into bars, take out their frustration by camping out in town squares where they drink a mixture of red wine and CocaCola, pee in public fountains, and set trash cans on fire. Party on el Gartho. Party on el Wayne. Party on el Spaino? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Yep they tried to tell us we couldnt drink in the street anymore so in typical spainish style we through a party and ignored the law- the smoking law that passed lasted one day.There is something strange in the Spainish culture that the population rejects laws. An example is the bulls. the Eu said we couldnt do it. We did it anyway. If everyone ignores new legislation it just seems to go away. This is a side effect from getting into democrarcey late. After Francos facism we dont have politicians that have the balls to tell us what to do. Things just become defacto. I just went to one of the street parties saturday boy did Ihurt the next day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Spain, what you are saying is exactly why the nation of Spain was a nicer place under Franco's rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Spain, what you are saying is exactly why the nation of Spain was a nicer place under Franco's rule.I disagree, that's democracy. Spain's people still uses their collective voice against the govt.When the US makes a new law, we just bitch and follow itYou got it backwards Spain, politicians aren't supposed to tell you what to do, you're actually supposed to tell them. American politicians just stopped listening a LOOOONG time ago, then the citizens stopped caring so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kazkal Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Spain, what you are saying is exactly why the nation of Spain was a nicer place under Franco's rule.I disagree, that's democracy. Spain's people still uses their collective voice against the govt.When the US makes a new law, we just bitch and follow itYou got it backwards Spain, politicians aren't supposed to tell you what to do, you're actually supposed to tell them. American politicians just stopped listening a LOOOONG time ago, then the citizens stopped caring so much.some people need be told what to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I dont think Washington is valued to much around the NFL... For all his supposedly talent or athleticism he just doesnt have it all togegher to be much more than a backup....I wouldnt give more than a fifth rounder for him..More incllined to go with a 6th rounder..Jerimi Johnson is a good blocking fullback.. he seems to have decent hands ....Thats about 75% of the rest of the fullbacks in the NFL..Aside from a few uniquie blockers fullbacks can come and go if you have the moxy to lay a hit on someone and watch the ball into your hands if the opportunity arises to catch one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Wow boomer your smarter than your avitar looks , that is exactly it. However it will change. Ijust happen to be lucky enought to live here at this time. I love porn on prime time. Another thing you might want to remember Boomer is that Spain is western european and coming off an empire. the Spaininsh are a very strong country hat hapened to be the first battle ground of he second WW. Franco was just wanted part of france and africa and Hitler wouldnt give it up. Spain historically has been more dominant than any other continenetal country. It has became very rich very quickly because we are in the right neighbourhood.(western europe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybren Posted March 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Wow boomer your smarter than your avitar looks , that is exactly it. However it will change. Ijust happen to be lucky enought to live here at this time. I love porn on prime time. Another thing you might want to remember Boomer is that Spain is western european and coming off an empire. the Spaininsh are a very strong country hat hapened to be the first battle ground of he second WW. Franco was just wanted part of france and africa and Hitler wouldnt give it up. Spain historically has been more dominant than any other continenetal country. It has became very rich very quickly because we are in the right neighbourhood.(western europe)This should come as a great surprise to all those historians who say that WWII began with the Nazi invasion of Poland. Followed by the Soviet invasion of Finland, and the Nazi invasions of Denmark, Norway, France, Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands. Everything that I've read says that Spain supported Hitler, but remained neutral in the war.Here's something else I found interesting, regarding Spains wealth and power. From http://www.globalfirepower.com/spain.asp:Spain's powerful world empire of the 16th and 17th centuries ultimately yielded command of the seas to England. Subsequent failure to embrace the mercantile and industrial revolutions caused the country to fall behind Britain, France, and Germany in economic and political power. Spain remained neutral in World Wars I and II, but suffered through a devastating civil war (1936-39). In the second half of the 20th century, Spain has played a catch-up role in the western international community; it joined the EU in 1986. Continuing challenges include Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA) terrorism and further reductions in unemployment.If we're going to go off-topic, we might as well do it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybren Posted March 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Seahawks sign WR Burleson to seven-year deal I didn't realize Burleson was in the same boat as KDub --- restricted FA worth a 3rd round pick.Guess this means Washington will get a few calls now. And Warrick will be packing his bags.Interesting article, by the way. Looks like the NFL is going to let teams put some weird "poison pill" clauses in their offers to keep particular teams from being able to match them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 JJ is average, and KW exspenise.(3rd rounder) The real ? is will someone go after Koostra or tab Perry when he comes around. Weve had some good 7th rounders. We better lock these guys up now. Perry has beast all over him. You dont notice we Koostra enters the game. Plays both positions. The paradigm has shifted. We gonna have to defend our project players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 JJ has been a great blocker not to mention having the ability to catch out of the backfield. To ask if someone "might" go after Tab right now is crazy. If he continues to progress and be an impact player, the team will wrap him up. I understand about him being drafted later and he would be a prime target to go after when he's a RFA, but once again, will he continue to improve and be that impact player ?? If not, he'll be gone just like Walter. K-Wash is neither here nor there for me and he ought to be thankful Henry is a mental midget...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 The first would guarantee the entire contract, all $49 million, if Burleson plays five or more games in the state of Minnesota in any season of the contract. The Vikings, of course, play home games in Minneapolis, at the Metrodome there. The second bizarre provision would guarantee the full contract if Burleson is paid more on average per year than all of the Minnesota running backs combined. At least for now, the averages of the Vikings' tailbacks fall well shy of the $7 million average of the Burleson offer sheet.Ok...Ok...this is starting to get a little ridiculous and childish... I can see someone putting in the Jeremi Johnson offer sheet..."If Jeremi plays on a team that has 4 or more Johnson's, the entire amount of his contact is guarenteed..."or"If Jeremi blocks for a guy named Rudi, his entire contract becomes guarenteed..."STOP THE INSANITY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 The first would guarantee the entire contract, all $49 million, if Burleson plays five or more games in the state of Minnesota in any season of the contract. The Vikings, of course, play home games in Minneapolis, at the Metrodome there. The second bizarre provision would guarantee the full contract if Burleson is paid more on average per year than all of the Minnesota running backs combined. At least for now, the averages of the Vikings' tailbacks fall well shy of the $7 million average of the Burleson offer sheet.Ok...Ok...this is starting to get a little ridiculous and childish... I can see someone putting in the Jeremi Johnson offer sheet..."If Jeremi plays on a team that has 4 or more Johnson's, the entire amount of his contact is guarenteed..."or"If Jeremi blocks for a guy named Rudi, his entire contract becomes guarenteed..."STOP THE INSANITY! if they don't put a stop to it now then that is what you will get all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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