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Did Mays really only have 1 INT his entire college career? If so, how does a safety with that kind of speed not get more than one INT? I'm not saying he can't fit here but for all the JPP=Gholston talk about being just a combine warrior...how is Mays much different? I'm not instigating I just want to know.
Mays had more interceptions than Polamalu when he was a USC and he worked out okay...
Mays played the way they asked him to and that was to intimidate ...he did that very well thank you...
He's coachable...his a remarkable athlete....he'll be a good one...yes he will
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is he still close to signing???? how long is close...week?" month? year?
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Two safeties in this draft??? a possibility with 9 total picks....
IMHO they simply have to find someone who can step in for Roy Williams this year or next. But as much as I'm a fan of Mays being able to do just that...he doesn't have to be the pick. Nor does he have to be the only safety selected. Because I admit there are less expensive ways to fill that position and I continue to wonder if Mays will truly be the BPA at #21.
But again, I'm good with the idea of picking Mays at #21. Because I think he belongs in the debate and if he's the choice I'm satisfied the coaching staff can develope him into an impact player.
Oh I agree with you on the idea if the team decides he's the best choice at #21 to fill the SS void in the future Im good with it..
I believe Zimmer has alot of influence on player acqusitions be it draft or ortherwise now and if he thinks Mays can play SS or FS in his system I wont dispute his call...
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All I see is that Zimmer said Roy showed them something....he was a hitter.....
Whatever.....
I suppose Ndukwe isnt in their long term plans at SS then.....
I would think the team might consider getting a FS to backup Crocker in case he goes down and to eventually replace him as well...
Two safeties in this draft??? a possibility with 9 total picks....
I just dont see all the hoopla about Mays as he seems to be a one trick pony in that he hits but really
is a liability in passing situations....
Ok ill quit beating a dead horse here...
Thats just my two cents on Mays.....and it probably isnt worth even that much
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I know most of you are very high on Taylor Mays and while I see his speed and measurables as awesome his play at USC this past season
didnt seem to warrant him as much of a cover safety.....
he can hit yes...fast ..Talledaga fast....
knock on him seems to be instincts...has none...
plays poor angles and as far as playmaking....INTS? Passesdefensed?? very low totals for all the accolades thrown his way on this board..
He's a bigger faster younger version of Roy Williams.....a STRONG SAFETY last I knew...not a free safety..
Crocker is aging and who will take his place eventually???
Mays you say???
Tell me why he's such a good FS??
Please list all the attributes he could bring to the table in pass coverage......the NFL is passing league ...more than ever....
Im leaning towards Morgan Burnette or Nate Allen in round two if theyre on the board...
I've said it to many times to recall, but one more surely won't hurt. Taylor Mays screwed up not coming out his junior year. Why ??
Not because his flaws were amplified, but rather EVERY SINGLE player in his junior secondary along with every starting linebacker and some d-lineman left. He came into his senior season with a brand new group on almost the entire defense. He was expected to carry the load and it was simply to much to be expected of any one player. Do you honestly think he's going to have that issue in the Bengals secondary ?? I can't envision that by any chance. It's simple, look what he did with a conhesive unit up until his senior season. THAT is what Taylor Mays is about and what he would be about in a VERY good Bengals secondary, while learning from a 5 time pro bowl player in Williams. He won't be expected to step into the spotlight and lets not forget Roy Williams is on a one year contract.
Here's another for you. If Taylor Mays is a Roy Williams clone and Mike Zimmer says Roy Williams is the "PERFECT FIT" for our defense, why wouldn't we want Taylor Mays (faster, younger, same skill set) to be the one to replace him ??
I never saw where Zimmer said Williams was the "perfect" fit in his system...only that Roy was a good saftey that he was familiar with...
Do you honestly think Roy Williams has any effectiveness in passing downs anymore????
The NFL is adopting more and more rules to favor offenses and aside from pass rushers all teams should stock up on Dbacks that can cover..
Im sorry I just dont see this as a Mays attribute.... he can load the box and stop the run Im sure but on passing situations he'll be
another Ndukwe in many instances....
Lewis and Zimmer want safties that are interchangeable.. easier said than done imo...
what they really need is safties that can tackle BUT can cover......
Would you have a problem with the center from Florida in round one and a Burnette or Allen in round two if they were on the board??
You get one of the best Olinemen and still get a decent cover safety to boot.. Just my thoughts
and I welcome yours
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I know most of you are very high on Taylor Mays and while I see his speed and measurables as awesome his play at USC this past season
didnt seem to warrant him as much of a cover safety.....
he can hit yes...fast ..Talledaga fast....
knock on him seems to be instincts...has none...
plays poor angles and as far as playmaking....INTS? Passesdefensed?? very low totals for all the accolades thrown his way on this board..
He's a bigger faster younger version of Roy Williams.....a STRONG SAFETY last I knew...not a free safety..
Crocker is aging and who will take his place eventually???
Mays you say???
Tell me why he's such a good FS??
Please list all the attributes he could bring to the table in pass coverage......the NFL is passing league ...more than ever....
Im leaning towards Morgan Burnette or Nate Allen in round two if theyre on the board...
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Kyle Cook is the real deal.......bluto was overmatched by the stronger NT's in the division plus he was banged up in his neck and ankle which prohibited him from
optomal results... he never had the strength or fortitude of Cook...
Cook is a nasty SOB on the field.....he'll hold his own ..
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Its Madden....its a GAME.......get over it...
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If and when Coles catches over 200 passes in two years Ill endorse him as capable replacement for TJ....
So easy to forget all the first downs to keep the chains moving provided by Housh...
Coles might be good ...he also might wind up as second fiddle to Bubba Caldwell before its all said and done...
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Paul Alexander...
Levi and Willie were first rounders.
Steiney, Whit were first day..
Andrews is his major project and Ill give him a B- for that...
Bluto is average...Koos isnt much.
the rest of his players were failures to a certain degree.
Id rate him C- for his career....
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Willie Anderson's roster bonus is due today.. 2 mil.....
do they still keep Stacy ?
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Uhhh.....just thinking out loud here but if the team that trades for him picks up his contract wouldn't we not take a cap hit?
they would pick up his salary.. there are no bonus left on his contract... the team would actually save 1.4 mil dollars but have to pickup the player's salary they traded for.
some teams cant trade players we'd like to see come herer for the same reason Chad cant be traded
Cap hit would kill them..
Chad's is 4.3 hit if Bengals let him go.. that ainnt happenin!
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No.
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Thats the cap hit the Bengals would take on trading Chad Johnson..
It wont happen so he stays a Bengal come rain or whiney cryin on he and his evil agents part.
Now TJ is in the last year of his contract....trade value will never be higher..NO cap hit.
Possesion receivers are easier to replace...
Lots of very good recievers in the first four rounds this year..
Just thinkin out loud..
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Mike Brown likes Smith... that in itself shows how incompetent he is at analyzing abilites.
Smith's 2 sacks have made it difficult to justify re signing him though...
I think he walks.. and good riddence.... bring on Calais Campbell now!
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Thats if he's still on the board.. right now the chances a about even Id say
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Paul Alexander is one of the better Oline coaches in the NFL....
Name one non-1st day pick still here that he's developed into a respected starter in the NFL in the last 10 years? And don't say Stacey Andrews because he was supposed to be Willie's replacement and has failed at doing that already, and is a borderline talent - just a big, athletic body nothing more. Kooistra's another guy who's career is going downhill fast now that he's being exposed. Guychick is awful. Kelly is yet another FA known for his blocking skills and needed no coaching up. The Bengals' haven't drafted or developed a TE since before Alexander got here.
So where are all the success stories from one of the best o-line coaches in the league? If he's so good why hasn't anyone else scooped him up and made him a better offer in all these years?
Anyone can look good with 1st day guys like Levi, Willie, Steinbach, Goff (who left here to become a pro bowler) and Williams (a 2nd round pick playing just as he always has).
Alexander has developed no one. It's not that he's totally incompetent, but he's protected by a system that puts such a high value on offensive skill players and 1st round tackles.
I just think the guy's blocking schemes and lack of player development has become as stale as this offense. Time to make a change - but due to Mike Brown's loyalty-over-performance mantra, Alexander has a cushy job here just like Lippincott.
I think my points are reasonable and point to specific examples all over the place. It's not as if I'm ranting and raving here.
That most replies are personal shots or bad jokes speaks to the level of football ignorance here by some. If that's all you have then just don't respond.
I cant argue with your assesments......Ive allways thought he kept the Oline fairly well together but your right in that noone aside from a first day draft pick has amounted to anything more than average.
I retract my view of him......
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In related news, probably the best o-line coach this team ever had announced his retirement...
http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/billsnfl/story/247260.html
Yes he was.....
here's an idea ..
Bengals get permission from Zona to interview Russ Grimm for the HC...
I think his ole buddy Whisenhunt would let Grimm do it for a HC position and Grimm
is a no nonsence type guy that players respect and play hard for...
Hell he migh even work with Bluto and Stacy and develope them into good linemen!!!!
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Miami will either trade the pick to say a Dallas ( which covets McFadden) for extra picks and possibly a player or two or draft a player thats could be considered a franchise type in the near future...
Matt Ryan may stoked their interest....possibly Jake Long but I dont see Long as the Orlando Pace type player ...
I think Tuna wants to trade the pick... all that money for a first pick for a Dlineman?? hell no
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Distinct possibility that Sedric Ellis could wind up a Raider replacing Sapp unless Chris Long is on the board and Al Davis goes for a pass rusher to team with Derrick Burgess..
No way in hell to determine the top ten picks of this draft .. Too many options and team needs for the bottom dwellers.
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If Lewis wanted out I would expect Mike Brown to want 2 first round picks which Baltimore cant give up due to rebuilding.
Another scenario that could possibly work would be a swap in which Lewis becomes HC for the Ravens and the Bengals get Rex Ryan as their HC .. Trade would hinge on Ryan signing a contract with the Bengals......
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Chris Perry has great talent. I would argue that with anyone. He has had buzzards luck.
My a$$. Perry's talent only extends up to the point where he gets hit. Then he comes up way short. He simply is not durable enough to play in the NFL, and is the biggest bust since the days of David Klinger and Akili Smith. IMHO the Bengals will kick his butt to the curb right after training camp as Irons, Watson, and Dorsey are established as the backfield rotation for the Bengals.
I would thik the team goes to camp with a depth chart of
Rudi Johnson
Kenny Irons
Chris Perry
Kenny Watson
DeDe Dorsey
it will sort out from there....
When I said "backfield rotation", I was implying that as the RB's playing the role of replacing starter Rudi Johnson on 3rd downs, but hey...who knows? Little Miss Chrissy might learn how to take a hit and remain uninjured, regaining some of the form he showed when at Michigan. I seriously have my doubts though.
as do I regarding Perry..
Rudi needs to get back to being a power back.. gain some weight and all 220lbs or so.
if not he may see the exit sign as well.
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Chris Perry has great talent. I would argue that with anyone. He has had buzzards luck.
My a$$. Perry's talent only extends up to the point where he gets hit. Then he comes up way short. He simply is not durable enough to play in the NFL, and is the biggest bust since the days of David Klinger and Akili Smith. IMHO the Bengals will kick his butt to the curb right after training camp as Irons, Watson, and Dorsey are established as the backfield rotation for the Bengals.
I would thik the team goes to camp with a depth chart of
Rudi Johnson
Kenny Irons
Chris Perry
Kenny Watson
DeDe Dorsey
it will sort out from there....
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He would be an end in a 3-4 but the fact reamains he's still a grunt on the line.. Not a pass rushing freak but another run stopper/ control the line type and thats not first pick money imo..
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I think the Bengals drafted Coffman KNOWING that he had to bulk up, learn to block in a proset and seperate better..
They knew this ...
They drafted him because they saw a kid that can run and has soft hands and a good judgement for the ball...
He'll be okay....Kelly or Coats will block and the team will draft a mid round TE to compete...