Whur CHad At? Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 P Matt Morris signed with the Giants for a 3 year Deal worth $27 mil. I wasn't suprised to see the Reds go after him, cause of his 101-62 lifetime record, but I was suprised to see what they offered him. The Reds offered a 3 year $25 mil. deal to him. I was like WOW we are gona be spending some money. So now we know that the Reds are gonna spend some money on a Pitcher this year. This is good, they are finally thinking. Look for them to make a move towards Jarod Washburn, or Jeff Weaver. I don't see them going after Kevin Millwood becuase he wants something like a 4-5 year deal worth $40-50 mil. and the Reds won't spend that kind of money. I could also see them trying to aquire Barry Zito from the A's. This move sounds pointless, but the Red's have a lot of prospects that the A's like, so a deal to trade WIlly Mo, or Kearns with prospects for Zito, could very well happen!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Yea, losing out on Morris sucks. From my understanding though, Morris' agent is saying the Reds were just late and never thought of as serious suitors. Too bad too. Here's a list of the quality starting pitchers available via free agency:Kevin MillwoodJarrod WashburnJeff WeaverScott ElartonEsteban LoaizaJamie Moyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 P Matt Morris signed with the Giants for a 3 year Deal worth $27 mil. I wasn't suprised to see the Reds go after him, cause of his 101-62 lifetime record, but I was suprised to see what they offered him. The Reds offered a 3 year $25 mil. deal to him. I was like WOW we are gona be spending some money. So now we know that the Reds are gonna spend some money on a Pitcher this year. This is good, they are finally thinking. Look for them to make a move towards Jarod Washburn, or Jeff Weaver. I don't see them going after Kevin Millwood becuase he wants something like a 4-5 year deal worth $40-50 mil. and the Reds won't spend that kind of money. I could also see them trying to aquire Barry Zito from the A's. This move sounds pointless, but the Red's have a lot of prospects that the A's like, so a deal to trade WIlly Mo, or Kearns with prospects for Zito, could very well happen!!!!Whoever signs Zito will eventually sign him to a long-term contract...he has one year left on his current deal...that probably won't be the Reds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Is he up for arbitration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I think Esteban Loaiza signed with the Angels last week. Correct me if I'm wrong.Also, it's nice to see that the Reds tried to sign someone of quality. Still mad about the Casey trade, but if they sign a real pitcher, I may be able to forgive them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted December 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 A Barry Zito trade could happen...we can use that money to re-sign him. We have to give him something he won't refuse.But Jeff Weaver, and Jarrod Washburn are two guys who will want top dollar like Morris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I think Morris was our best shot at a good free agnet pitcher. I doubt highly that we'll get Zito. He'll want to play for a winning team.I am not bothered much by this anyways, we have little use for an aging pitcher. This team is more than one pitcher short of the playoffs. Our only option is to play the O'Brien Game and keep going through seasons trying out new young talent until we emerge with a real starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I think Esteban Loaiza signed with the Angels last week. Correct me if I'm wrong.Also, it's nice to see that the Reds tried to sign someone of quality. Still mad about the Casey trade, but if they sign a real pitcher, I may be able to forgive them.You're half right, he signed with Oakland less than a month ago (where was I??!!!) http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2239730Just another pitcher going someplace else... same ol' story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Wow, we didn't get Matt Morris. I'm shocked! I really thought we had this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Yea, apparently a stadium known as a hitter’s paradise and non-competitive team in the near future just wasn't enough to persuade the f**ker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Yea, apparently a stadium known as a hitter’s paradise and non-competitive team in the near future just wasn't enough to persuade the f**ker.Oh come on!!!!!!! Even with those hindrances, how can you pass up an opp to be coached by Vern Ruhle???? Heard Morris went to SF to be with Mike Metheny his ex-catcher in STL...I can hear the thoughts in O'Brien's head now...that Homer Bailey sure is something, can't wait to have him in the Bigs in 2-3 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Even if they could get a couple grizzled vets to show the young guns how to pitch, and how to handle their nerves, that would be progress. Weathers was a good pick up last season, but he was never a top notch pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Elarton signed with the Royals. The Reds can't beat out the worst team in the past 2-3 years for Elarton. http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article...e2005&fext=.jsp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted December 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 O'Brein said he wanted to upgrade his pitching staff. He said he was looking for a #1 pitcher. Elarton is considered a #4 or #5 pitcher. So I am kind of glad we didnt seriously pursure Mr. Elarton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 O'Brein said he wanted to upgrade his pitching staff. He said he was looking for a #1 pitcher. Elarton is considered a #4 or #5 pitcher. So I am kind of glad we didnt seriously pursure Mr. ElartonI dunno why. The current rotation isn't blowing anyone's skirts up and realistically we will not aquire a #1 because there's none available and the team has shown zero interest in paying the money for a #1. If he wants to "upgrade" his pitching staff, you can't just focus on a #1; rather signing experienced and somewhat previous successful pitchers -- both limited on our current rotation.BTW, Washburn is about signed in Seattle. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2263156Well, I guess we're (Reds) are happy with the status quo still; even with new ownership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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