Leinart isnt Palmer...

[HairOnFire]

Vince Young doesn't remind me of anyone...mostly because I've never seen a QB so big and strong that he defeats very good defenses by constantly breaking tackles. That said, if I were Young I'd spend the entire offseason preparing for life in the NFL by working on my throwing mechanics because that's the only thing that might hold him back on the next level.

As for the Leinart and Palmer comparisions, Palmer struggled for years playing in a stalled program before emerging as the building block that later championships were built upon. I think he's far superior to Leinart in every way that matters except for the most important one, championships won, and I'll argue that Leinart gets too much credit on that score. The fact that Palmer finally reached his potential by becoming an elite college QB despite being surrounded by less talent is dead on, but it's ignored by most people...including many Trojan fans. Palmer worked behind a fairly miserable offensive line and handed off to a constantly injured Justin Fargas while Leinart leaned heavily on a combo of Reggie Bush and Lendale White. Frankly, that's an unfair comparison that makes Leinart look smarter than he often plays.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

After hearing Lienert during his post game interview I get the impression that he's a spoiled brat. He made the following comment "I think we're still the better team. They just made more plays". You got beat, take it like a man!

Vince Young on the other had really impressed me. I see him in Ari next year. Just think of what he could do with the likes of Boldin and Fitzgerald to throw it to.

Yeah, and right after that Keith Jackson said something about "character being revealed in different ways." His way of saying exactly what you said. I didn't know that much about Leinart until that interview, but that spoke volumes about him.

[kingwilly]

Leinart gave them the snub and looked bad doing it. But these guys all react differently under the stress and emotion of such a big game. Many of his teammates gave big props to texas and vince young, like Lendale White, who shoed much class. I won't hold that one poor showing in the media against Leinart, who for the last three years has shown nothing but class.

not to get too off topic but ESPN's Bill Simmons take on the game is a great read and dead on.

As far as Vince Young not looking like anyone we've ever seen, actually he does. He throws a bit like McNabb, with the weird wind-up and flick. and has the general size (if not weight) of Culpepper and covers north-south ground like Vick. The common element for these three is while the talent is there, so are the injuries! I do not see Young coming out just yet. Why come out now and go mid first round or worse when you can wait a year and be #1?

[BengalByTheBay]

Leinart gave them the snub and looked bad doing it. But these guys all react differently under the stress and emotion of such a big game. Many of his teammates gave big props to texas and vince young, like Lendale White, who shoed much class. I won't hold that one poor showing in the media against Leinart, who for the last three years has shown nothing but class.

Again -- self-acknowledged trojan hater here -- but isn't the most important "character-revealing" moment the one when things don't go your way? It's pretty easy to show class when you win and much more difficult to be a man about it when you don't. I did hear a lot of good sportsmanship, including from Carrol, but Leinart seemed to me to be just about to lose it.

[HairOnFire]

Again -- self-acknowledged trojan hater here -- but isn't the most important "character-revealing" moment the one when things don't go your way? It's pretty easy to show class when you win and much more difficult to be a man about it when you don't. I did hear a lot of good sportsmanship, including from Carrol, but Leinart seemed to me to be just about to lose it.

To be fair, nobody risked more to play in that game than Leinart did when he passed up the opportunity to go to the NFL, possibly as the top overall pick, for a chance to win another championship. It's got to grind on him knowing that he passed up millions of dollars to come up short.

Oh, and lets not forget the fact that Vince Young has acted like a complete jerk for a couple weeks after failing to win the Heisman Trophy.

[Jet23]

From where I sit, his greatest skill was his ability to fall forward when pushed by a future Heisman Trophy winner.

But seriously, I have heard him called the greatest qb of all time. That's a bit much! So, who would be the greatest college qb of all time? Elway? Flutie? Detmer? Chang? Manning? Lomax?

[BengalByTheBay]

To be fair, nobody risked more to play in that game than Leinart did when he passed up the opportunity to go to the NFL, possibly as the top overall pick, for a chance to win another championship. It's got to grind on him knowing that he passed up millions of dollars to come up short.

Oh, and lets not forget the fact that Vince Young has acted like a complete jerk for a couple weeks after failing to win the Heisman Trophy.

Quite possibly true -- on both counts. However, I doubt that we can have any real sure understanding of Leinart's motive in doing so. If it was so he could win another championship game and he failed to do it -- again, "character-revealing moment" in my book. It was most obviously his decision though. No one else to blame that one on. As for Young I have no idea how he acted. You may very well be right. I just know he carried that team on his back with about 40% of the supporting talent that Leinart had. Hell, let's just say they're both jerks -- I can live with that.

[jrandom42]

From where I sit, his greatest skill was his ability to fall forward when pushed by a future Heisman Trophy winner.

But seriously, I have heard him called the greatest qb of all time. That's a bit much! So, who would be the greatest college qb of all time? Elway? Flutie? Detmer? Chang? Manning? Lomax?

Having both played against Lomax in High School and watched him shred the Div-1AA record book, I'd say he (and his coaches, Mouse Davis and June Jones) were the best in college football in their time.

Neil couldn't run very well and his arm was only above average, but he was one of the best at reading defenses and calling plays at the line. Saw him throw 14-16 and 7 touchdowns in a quarter against Roman Gabriel's Cal Poly Pomona, who weren't pushovers by any means at the time. THAT is a heck of a performance by any standard!

[HairOnFire]

Hell, let's just say they're both jerks -- I can live with that.

Good call. With the exception of Carson Palmer I believe strongly that ALL quarterbacks are just overhyped skinbags who must be knocked down repeatedly in the most violent manner possible. They must be taught humility.

As for Young, he refused to even acknowledge Reggie Bush after the Heisman vote was announced, has since made numerous complaints about how Bush didn't deserve the award, and last night the first thing he did after being handed that little glass football that passes for a championship trophy was to assume a mock Heisman pose. Get over it, right? Frankly, I could argue that Vince Young might have deserved the award just as much as Bush did, but his actions have never seemed very classy, and he doesn't have the excuse that Leinart has about saying something inappropriate seconds after losing an important game.

[Kazkal]

He's still a awesome QB and best one to come out sense carson

[kentjett]

Vince Young has a great attitude and has played at a extremely high level in college. I would love to see him succeed but his style will not transfer into a good NFL QB. He has a weak arm and cannot throw an accurate long ball or out route. He's good at throwing the short stuff over the middle and making plays outside of the pocket but is very skiddish in the pocket. He never throws the ball w/ someone in his face, he always runs. His mechanics are all out of whack, runs standing straight up( he will get killed by an NFL LB). He don't have anywhere near the athletic ability, scrambling ability or speed of Vick. Vick dominated college as a freshman and sophmore, there is no telling what he would have done as a junior or senior. I do agree that Vick is not panning out as a pro but he has never had a good line or WR group(Peerless Price was the most overrated WR's of all time)Young sucks,Vick sucks, Leinart will be a decent QB and Palmer is the man.

[derekshank]

Leinart gave them the snub and looked bad doing it. But these guys all react differently under the stress and emotion of such a big game. Many of his teammates gave big props to texas and vince young, like Lendale White, who shoed much class. I won't hold that one poor showing in the media against Leinart, who for the last three years has shown nothing but class.

Again -- self-acknowledged trojan hater here -- but isn't the most important "character-revealing" moment the one when things don't go your way? It's pretty easy to show class when you win and much more difficult to be a man about it when you don't. I did hear a lot of good sportsmanship, including from Carrol, but Leinart seemed to me to be just about to lose it.

Pete Carrol waited around through the celebrating to congratulate Mack Brown... and both Leinart and Bush went to their locker room after the game to congratulate them. Hate the Trojans all you want... but these 3 guys are about as classy as I've ever seen in college football.

[Kazkal]

Let's hope he has more durabilty then vick...I'd take leinhart over young only only 2 QB's i'd trust to run the ball alot Culpeppar then somewhat mcnabb

[bengalsLB]

the biggest knock on Young is his throwing motion its really side-armed almost throwing it from his hip, he developpe this motion from playin baseball out-fielder if i remeber correctly, Youngs arm is good not a cannon though, Good Accuracey, he runs is long strides like a WR and is deceptively fast because of his long strides , great intangables unqeustiond leader of texas most clutch College QB EVER. Young to vick comparison are horrible there are way different. also texas runs a shotgun and it will take time for him to adjust tobeing under center. but 1 thing we mus remember if young busts at QB the team that drafts him will have 1 hell of a WR