jbx182 Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 has to be big daddy. all the other guys listed, sans palmer, were taken too high! only big dan was supposed to be a number 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiotter Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I went for Kijana myself! Not fair he was never heathly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiotter Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I went with Carson Palmer. This year will show you why. Thats ok BAX we will let you and Spain back on the band wagon again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 The biggest bust ever ... OL Freddie Childress.The Bengals second round pick in 1989 didn't even make it out of WILMINGTON. The Bengals cut him before the final preseason game. A few other teams picked him up and worked him out, but nobody ended up signing him and his NFL career was over before it even started.That, my friends, is a complete and total bust.Runner(s) up: 1979 QB Jack Thompson, 1981 WR David Verser, 1982 DE Glenn Collins, and the aforementioned Akili Smith and David Klingler.We have a winner ! And how would you all like a 335 lb DTthat averages 40.5 tackles and over 6 sacks a season ? Well that`s what Dan Wilkinson averaged on s**tty teams that had Dave Shula as the coach ! The guys that said Palmer...you`re morons.The guys that said Justin Smith...you`re a morontoo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I know he makes plenty of tackles, but as a D-End, I don't think that's all as important as it may sound. The Bengals drafted him to get a sack machine, something they've lacked for a long time, and he hasn't panned out to those expectations. I said he is a good player, and I'm glad he's on our football team, I just don't think he lived up to his draft position. Regardless of what the Bengals drafted him to be, they haven't used him in that way. They've asked him to be something different, and you cna't penalize him for that. If you watch Freeney, of Strahan, they use spin moves and all sorts of crazy crap that routinely puts them out of position to make tackles against the run.Smith did that stuff his rookie year, but stopped... and I very much doubt it was because he started feeling dizzy. The team clearly asked him not to take big risks that would end up in big gains on the run. Therefore, he has been excellent in what the team has asked him to do, He doesn't have the sack numbers of the best in the business... but I am convinced that if he played somewhere else, he would. Our coaches have just never felt that the reward of a sack is worth the risk of an explosive run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBin2k7 Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Akili Smith is terrible. He is the worst, just think the Bengals could have drafted freakin Culpepper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Okay, you might be able to convince me that the Akili Smith thing was the worst, because we didn't agree to the New Orleans trade that would have given us 2 drafts in 1, which we sorely needed.But in '95 we traded up to get Ki-Jana, giving up our 2nd round pick. You can say all you want about injuries, but he tore his ACL. It's bad for a RB, but Edgerrin James did it too, and he's just fine. There are a number of backs who tore ACL's and came back to be something. You'd think that a #1 overall pick could have at least gained 1200 yards... for his career! But he didn't. Injuries, sminguries. He's a bust. We took him overTony Boselli Steve McNairKerry CollinsKevin CarterJoey Galloway Derrick AlexanderWarren SappHugh Douglas Tyrone Poole Ty Law Derrick BrooksAmong others. I know you could do that with basically any draft to show a #1 pick as being wasted... but Ki-jana... even if it was due to injuries, he at least showed he lacked the physical and mental toughness to be a #1 pick. He's a bust no matter how you slice it. It's only semantics when you are arguing who was worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Orange Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Can someone explain WHY Palmer is on this poll? Trolls need a place to vote to piss us off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBin2k7 Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Didn't he fracture his wrist and miss another entire season? And once Corey Dillon was in, there was no need for Carter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Didn't he fracture his wrist and miss another entire season? And once Corey Dillon was in, there was no need for Carter.Yeah, he had some other injuries that held him back, but nothing career ending. He should have been able to come back from them. The presence of Corey Dillon shouldn't change the fact that if he was any good he should have been able to get a starting job somewhere.In his big healthy season, where he played 15 games and started 10 games he had 128 rushes 464 yards. One of those was a 79 yarder (one of only 2 carries for over 20 yards)... and thank God for that, because without it he would have had 127 rushes for 385 yards. 3 yds/carry.Yes, he's had some injuries, but he has neer warranted a starting job. the fact that they knew they needed to draft Corey Dillon to replace Ki-Jana shows that they knew he was just a mistake. If they thought he would amount to anything when healthy, they would have drafted elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted August 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I couldnt forget my boy Bax, I thought he might want that option! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBax Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I couldnt forget my boy Bax, I thought he might want that option! Thank you Spain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I couldnt forget my boy Bax, I thought he might want that option!Thank you Spain!I should have known that Spain would identify with so called Bengals Fans, who actually Root Against The Bengals Players.Your both French ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted August 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Yeah JPW, I have a ? for you! How do you explain to people that every one sat on the same side of the church at your wedding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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