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[combatbengal]

Pollack, just sign the contract and play ball! You are living the dream of just about every man on this board and in Cincy. We'd love to be in your shoes. To have the tallent, size and speed to play pro football. 9 million vs 10 million? Come on guy, you're set for life no matter what. So sign the contract and get on the field. Shoot I'd sit the bench for the min the league pays!

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Give the guy a break, he's got to look out for himself, and the issue seems to be guaranteed money. 9 vs. 100 million doesn't mean squat if he gets injured and has no guaranteed money already and can't play any more.

[Kirkendall]

Give the guy a break, he's got to look out for himself, and the issue seems to be guaranteed money. 9 vs. 100 million doesn't mean squat if he gets injured and has no guaranteed money already and can't play any more.

COLLEGE DEGREE!!!!!

[Jet23]

It's all about the flipping Agents and looking good for next year's crop of prospects. I am so sick of slotting this and slotting that bull crap! The Agents could give a rats a$$ about the fact that their clients are falling way behind and risk injury trying to catch up.

Anymore, it is not even about getting the player the most money, it is how the Agent looks doing it. I really hope some of the tactics that are being used by this scum comes back to bite them. If I was a serious prospect, I wouldn't want someone representing me that has his/her interest above mine. Maybe it is going to take a player missing some game checks, before they start seeing the light. I'm on board with the deal is the deal, SIT THE HELL OUT! 10 % commission of zero is ZERO!

[DesperateDerelict]

10 % commission of zero is ZERO!

Does anybody know: if Pollack drops IMG and signs a new agent (me, for instance), would he owe his current rum-dums any compensation?

[walshfan]

Dont we all hate the business side of football... Necessary evil......

Pollack is a bright kid... He knows this is his chance for guaranteed money and he and his agent are going to get what they feel he's entitiled and worth in their estimation..

Show me the money!!! Its true you know!

[Jet23]

Dont we all hate the business side of football... Necessary evil......

Pollack is a bright kid... He knows this is his chance for guaranteed money and he and his agent are going to get what they feel he's entitiled and worth in their estimation..

Show me the money!!! Its true you know!

But don't you agree how this whole slotting thing is out of hand. Look how long it took everyone to sign their picks. Every Agent was afraid that if he signed a bad deal, he would get abused by his fellow Agents. Granted, a good deal for the Agent is generally a good deal for the Player, but what they don't factor in is how much time a Player misses to get the deal done. it may end up costing the player millions of dollars in the long run. Even if Pollack wanted to take the deal, he probably has to listen to his Agent whine about how it makes him look. CRAP, CRAP, CRAP.

[BengalByTheBay]

Without "slotting" there would hardly be anybody signed right now. It takes most of the negotiable factors off the table. It just goes to show, however, that you can get hung-up on these negotiations even over relatively small amounts and terms. Yes, agents are money hungry whores. If you were a player you would want the most successful money hungry whore working for you, though. While it may be true that coming into camp late may increase the chance of injury, it is corresopndingly true that this is a very good reason to hold out for guaranteed money. Catch 22 as Hobson says.

[Jet23]

If you were a player you would want the most successful money hungry whore working for you, though.

Not necessarily. Check out the last line of this article:

BEREA, Ohio - As rookie wide receiver Braylon Edwards' contract holdout presses on, Cleveland Browns quarterback Trent Dilfer is reminded of a mistake he made before taking his first NFL snap.

Like Edwards, Dilfer missed the first part of his first training camp in 1994 so he could get a sweeter deal from Tampa Bay.

Looking back, Dilfer wishes he had made another choice.

"I held out for 12 days," Dilfer said. "It was a wonderful decision financially and a horrible decision football-wise."

Edwards' holdout showed no signs of ending Thursday as agent Lamont Smith and the Browns were at a standstill in negotiations.

The club has presented Smith with five-year and six-year proposals for the No. 3 overall pick from Michigan, who missed the team's minicamp in June because of a family funeral and a leg injury.

Dilfer was the sixth overall selection in 1994 by the Buccaneers, taken three picks after Washington took quarterback Heath Shuler. At the time, Dilfer felt he should get more money than Shuler because he had been rated higher by many teams before the draft.

After finally signing, Dilfer struggled in his first two seasons as a pro. As a rookie, he played in just five games. The next season under coach Sam Wyche, he started 16 but had just four touchdowns, 18 interceptions and a 60.1 quarterback rating as the Bucs went 7-9 and Wyche was fired.

"I've gone back to Coach Wyche and apologized to him, because I felt like my decision at that time ended up costing him his job because I never developed the way I was supposed to develop," Dilfer said. "I completely stunted my development as a football player. I was never able to catch up.".

Who knows how much much players like Dilfer threw away by wanting the money NOW!

[jjakq27]

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It's official....David Pollack and his threads have jumped the shark...or at least tried to.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Give the guy a break, he's got to look out for himself, and the issue seems to be guaranteed money.  9 vs. 100 million doesn't mean squat if he gets injured and has no guaranteed money already and can't play any more.

COLLEGE DEGREE!!!!!

The man didn't go to college to be a working stiff, he went to college to earn millions playing football. Every penny he can ink out in guaranteed money is a way to live well and not have to worry about life after football. Ask Ickey Woods what happens when you don't get the guaranteed money!

[BengalPappaw]

The Bengals MANAGEMENT (read Mikee) are at fault -- they continue to play games. Just like they have with the other first round draft choices.

For the Bengals it's a matter of principle -- really its a matter of principal.

Until Mike Brown is gone, I believe we will have the Bengals playing these stupid games with the draft choices!!

Mikee WILL eventually agree or Pollack will give in -- BUT, in the meantime Pollack is losing valuable experience AND we are losing our chances at the playoffs -- so Mikee doesn't have to guarantee a few additional bucks!!

[Kazkal]

most of us would be holding out too if we had skills of pollack.

but there is a reason why we only watch football and not playing it

(atleast past the highschool level eh)

"Dilfer was the sixth overall selection in 1994 by the Buccaneers, taken three picks after Washington took quarterback Heath Shuler. At the time, Dilfer felt he should get more money than Shuler because he had been rated higher by many teams before the draft."

he was a 1st round pick? eh lol

[Kirkendall]

Give the guy a break, he's got to look out for himself, and the issue seems to be guaranteed money.  9 vs. 100 million doesn't mean squat if he gets injured and has no guaranteed money already and can't play any more.

COLLEGE DEGREE!!!!!

The man didn't go to college to be a working stiff, he went to college to earn millions playing football. Every penny he can ink out in guaranteed money is a way to live well and not have to worry about life after football. Ask Ickey Woods what happens when you don't get the guaranteed money!

Great. Wonderful. I'm not challenging you on that. I am saying he got a free ride to earn a college degree. And I agree he's looking out for himself; he has a college degree, along with a newly opened cafe shop to fall back on. If ANY athlete gets the chance at a free college degree, plays professional sports and gets hurt; but doesn't fulfill his degree has no one to blame but himself. Pollack has a suitable fallback plan.

I'm with you on the football thing and prepping your life; I have no problem with that. However, I'm not going to feel sorry for him nor am I going to get off his back.

My current problem is, the Bengals, YOUR TEAM, needs him in camp to fulfill the compliment of players they have and get out to a fast start from game #1. If he's not in camp, he hurts your team. So no, I will not get off his back.

PS, this isn't a Pollack "bashing" post. This is a "Pollack, Get Your Arse to Camp and help out MY TEAM to win a championship!"

If I’m wrong in my thought process, then tell me. Explain to me how. Maybe I’m wrong. Most of my thoughts about the back-end BS finances that heads the ESPN storylines every night shouldn’t be public anyway. Media shouldn’t be a tool used for negotiations. Players, agents, and teams should keep this stuff private so we don’t have these boneheaded arguments.

Oh well. As Pollack said on Sports Talk the other day, “that’s normal around here”.

[combatbengal]

Kirkendall, I agree with you 100%. No matter what kind of deal he makes, he's set for life. Get to camp and help your teammates out. Besides, you help the team get into the playoffs or win the big game, your stock goes up!

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

The Bengals MANAGEMENT (read Mikee) are at fault -- they continue to play games. Just like they have with the other first round draft choices.

For the Bengals it's a matter of principle -- really its a matter of principal.

Until Mike Brown is gone, I believe we will have the Bengals playing these stupid games with the draft choices!!

Mikee WILL eventually agree or Pollack will give in -- BUT, in the meantime Pollack is losing valuable experience AND we are losing our chances at the playoffs -- so Mikee doesn't have to guarantee a few additional bucks!!

It's a two way street. Mike Brown wants the best deal for the team so that he can use leftover money to extend Willie Anderson, Levi Jones, Justin Smith, and others who have their contracts expiring soon. If he gives away money to a rookie who hasn't proven anything on the field yet, will you then bitch when he doesn't have it to extend a veteran like Willie or Levi?

[Kazkal]

The Bengals MANAGEMENT (read Mikee) are at fault -- they continue to play games.  Just like they have with the other first round draft choices.

For the Bengals it's a matter of principle -- really its a matter of principal.

Until Mike Brown is gone, I believe we will have the Bengals playing these stupid games with the draft choices!!

Mikee WILL eventually agree or Pollack will give in -- BUT, in the meantime Pollack is losing valuable experience AND we are losing our chances at the playoffs -- so Mikee doesn't have to guarantee a few additional bucks!! 

It's a two way street. Mike Brown wants the best deal for the team so that he can use leftover money to extend Willie Anderson, Levi Jones, Justin Smith, and others who have their contracts expiring soon. If he gives away money to a rookie who hasn't proven anything on the field yet, will you then bitch when he doesn't have it to extend a veteran like Willie or Levi?

if I'm not mistaken they are set on total deal... it's over bonus money is the problem which in noway then can help extend contracts inless he turns out to be a bust