TecmoFever Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 I'm hoping that the Bengals take defense in Round 1, though if somehow Troy Williamson fell to us at 17, I'd be quite intrigued.At least one, if not most, of these guys will be there at 17. Who do you take if we stay at 17? No trading down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 what about shawne merriman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat Bengal Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Chick Ludwig of Dayton Daily News predicts that we will select Erasmus James with the 17th pick.He doesn't have to play right away, and maybe his hip can get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoFever Posted April 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I was assuming that Merriman and Derrick Johnson would be gone for sure by the time the Bengals draft at 17. There is a chance that any of these guys on the poll would be there for the taking at 17.Of course, Merriman or Johnson could be there, but I highly doubt it and I think that everyone would select them over almost any guy on this poll (especially Johnson). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishcovga Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I'm leaning towards Erasmus James. I like Marcus Spears, everyone knows that, but considering that I do think James is the better pass rusher, I think we'll need that especially this year if Cleveland lands Edwards and the Ravens land another receiver to go along with Derrick Mason.Trading down is an option, but if Erasmus James is there, if he's healthy, he's unstoppable, and I'm pretty confident we'll get more out of him in '05 than we got out of Chris Perry in '04. :player: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondTheJungle Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I will consider the first round a success if we get one of these three:DT: Travis JohnsonDE: Erasmus JamesSS: Thomas DavisOf course if a Pac-Man Jones, Derrick Johnson, etc... falls to 17 then they would take priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoFever Posted April 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I have to agree with the latest post, while adding David Pollack if the Bengals were able to move down and get an extra pick.It looks like our beloved Thomas Davis may not be available at 17. Here are a few excerpts from Geoff Hobson's article today on bengals.com (coming from an article regarding a media mock draft):If Kansas City doesn’t do it at No. 15, New Orleans will at No. 16. Break Bengaldom’s heart and select Georgia safety Thomas Davis...16. SAINTS - Thomas Davis, S, Georgia; Jeff Duncan, New Orleans Times-Picayune: They might think about Oklahoma tackle Jammal Brown, but Saints head coach Jim Haslett has singled out Davis as his guy and plans to put him at right outside linebacker. Haslett, a former NFL linebacker, thinks Davis is one of the best tacklers he’s seen in years. With the Saints ranked last in defense and 30th against the run, Duncan has seen a lot of the same names linked with New Orleans and the Bengals. They also could be looking at Auburn corner Carlos Rogers and Northwestern defensive tackle Luis Castillo. 15. CHIEFS - "Pac Man" Jones, CB West Virginia; Randy Covitz, Kansas City Star: Davis doesn’t figure to get past the Chiefs even though they have both starters back and they just picked up free-agent Sammy Knight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indycat Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Marcus SpearsThomas DavisDavid Pollack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Wow i'm only 1 of 2 that want demarcus ware. Btw I'd be very very happy with us selecting either one of the top 2 tackles...So well the ravens don't get one, and we have a great back up in case levi or willie go down....like they did each in the past 2 years but played injured or came back early to play anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I'm the other one turningpoint. Merriman is my first choice, but he won't be there. i am looking for a lights out playmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoFever Posted April 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Oldschooler--That picture of Davis blocking the kick looks great, but it really shouldn't count...They were playing the University of Kentucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Saints will be all over Thomas Jones at 16. Jim Haslett already said so. Merriman's stock has dropped. Ware's has risen so much that he will be the Cowboy's pick at #11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Saints will be all over Thomas Jones at 16. Jim Haslett already said so. Merriman's stock has dropped. Ware's has risen so much that he will be the Cowboy's pick at #11 Does any of the trading going on above us, affect us? Also do we try to trade up a few spots to sneak over the Saints if Davis is really the guy we want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I could see us trading up a couple spots to nab Davis/Merriman/Ware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indycat Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 There will be good players available at 17. I can't see us giving up a 3rd or 4th round pick to move up a couple spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsfan2510 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Why would anyone want Erasmus James ? He's a injury waiting to happen. I like Merriman. If he is gone ,I say we trade down and draft Poole. He is already being compared to Ed Reed. With the extra pick we could pick up a lb like Rudd or Blackstock. Two other lb's would be good pickups in the later rounds. They are Grgsby and Boley. REDSFAN2510 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadraftnick Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Thomas Davis is too big and slow to play in coverage.In the Bengals system the safety needs to play coverage.Most teams,scouts and draft experts project him as a Linebacker and he has a good chance going in the 2nd round because of that and the fact he is a tweener(oversized for a safety and a ltttle lite for a LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Thomas Davis is too big and slow to play in coverage.In the Bengals system the safety needs to play coverage.Most teams,scouts and draft experts project him as a Linebacker and he has a good chance going in the 2nd round because of that and the fact he is a tweener(oversized for a safety and a ltttle lite for a LB. I`ll trust Marvin...At 230 pounds, Georgia's Thomas Davis, a hard-hitting run-stopper, is the top-rated strong safety available."I think he's a fine prospect," Lewis said of Davis Tuesday in a pre-draft news conference.Reluctant to reveal the Bengals' draft strategy, Lewis did say, when asked, that Davis could both play the run and cover receivers in the pass game.http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art.../504200309/1066 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondTheJungle Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Scouts Inc has posted their full 7 round mock draft. I could care less what they say for most rounds because I doubt they'll get 10 picks right on day two.That said, they too like Erasmus James at 17 with the qualifier of "if the Bengals can't bail from this pick." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Thomas Davis is too big and slow to play in coverage.In the Bengals system the safety needs to play coverage.Most teams,scouts and draft experts project him as a Linebacker and he has a good chance going in the 2nd round because of that and the fact he is a tweener(oversized for a safety and a ltttle lite for a LB.I`ll trust Marvin...At 230 pounds, Georgia's Thomas Davis, a hard-hitting run-stopper, is the top-rated strong safety available."I think he's a fine prospect," Lewis said of Davis Tuesday in a pre-draft news conference.Reluctant to reveal the Bengals' draft strategy, Lewis did say, when asked, that Davis could both play the run and cover receivers in the pass game.http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art.../504200309/1066 Don't just trust Marvin (although I'd agree that that would be enough), trust the facts. Thomas Davis is the fastest of the top ten safeties in the draft (from his pro day forty), and the second fastest of all the safeties. Check out the link:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/rankings/s.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indycat Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 From Hobson article about the ML Tuesday news conference:Yes, he does think Georgia’s Thomas Davis can cover well enough to play safety in the NFL. No, he doesn’t think No. 17 is too high to take a safety in light of the fact the Ravens took Pro Bowler Ed Reed at No. 24 in 2002, and the Steelers took Troy Polamalu at No. 16 in 2003.Lewis offers few hints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 I could see us trading up a couple spots to nab Davis/Merriman/Ware. No/no/no. Just my opinion, but I'm pretty confident the Bengals can get as good a player at #17 as they could drafting a few spots higher, and moving up will cost far more than I'd be interested in spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 I think the poll results are interesting. As I write this 49 votes have been cast, 26 for the strong safety and 23 split amongst the various flavors of defensive lineman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 I could see us trading up a couple spots to nab Davis/Merriman/Ware.No/no/no. Just my opinion, but I'm pretty confident the Bengals can get as good a player at #17 as they could drafting a few spots higher, and moving up will cost far more than I'd be interested in spending. But is just getting a good player good enough? Or is there someone there that will elevate this team beyond that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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