Anderson moves to Senior ballot

[jjakq27]

http://www.bengals.c...50-deabb75edab3

Hopefully Ken Anderson will get better consideration now that he will be moved to the Senior ballot for the Hall of Fame. The knock on him is that he never won a championship and was considered a "dink-and-dunk" passer. But watch any game today and what do you see? Three yard outs and screens. It's all about perception which is unfair considering the numbers he actually put up and that he was the prototype QB for what later became known as the West Coast offense.

Ken Riley and Isaac Curtis are worthy as well. I hope that someday soon all three will take their place in Canton.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shgD_xqp6kw

[jjakq27]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwiaCECsSDI&feature=related

[jjakq27]

There is an Anderson bandwagon of sorts. But it is small and not exactly burgeoning. It's led by a local guy, David Kubicki, who has enlisted the testimonial help of former players (Bengals, mostly) and a few media, to lobby for Anderson's induction.

Kubicki calls it his "quest." He says Anderson "was a humble player who never got his due. He belongs in the Hall. People who engage in the story would agree."

/>http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20110521/COL03/105220352/Doc-Self-promotion-isn-t-Kenny-Anderson-s-style

/>http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20110521/SPT02/105220351/For-Anderson-late-Hall-Fame-drive

[jjakq27]

[size=3]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/05/30/mmqb/2.html

The other day, chatting with former Bengals quarterback Ken Anderson on SiriusXM NFL Radio, I was surprised (stunned, almost) to hear Anderson talk about this part of his legacy. "My yards-per-attempt were the same as Dan Marino's,'' he said. "I don't think anyone would think that.''

So I went to the trusty ProFootballReference.com, to the leader section, and checked yard-per-attempt. There, tied at 7.3 yards per attempt, were Anderson and Marino.

More than that, if you take it out to another decimal place:

Marino 7.34

Anderson 7.34

"The misnomer in our offense was it was a dink-and-dunk offense,'' Anderson said. "Not so. You had to be able to throw it deep.''

Interested, I went on.

Completion percentage:

Marino .594

Anderson .593

Neither won a Super Bowl. Both played in one. Both lost to Joe Montana. Each was two games below .500 as a post-season quarterback. I'm not saying Anderson belongs in the same breath with Marino. Of course he doesn't. Marino did it better, and for longer, and had to carry a franchise on his back for most of 17 years. But what Anderson did for 16 years in Cincinnati is rightfully getting some attention today -- as in Hall of Fame consideration kind of attention. I'm not saying he belongs -- I've always thought of him as a Hall of Very Good member -- but I have to say I'm open to the argument. This being the biggest reason: Ken Anderson was scouted and hand-picked by Paul Brown and his offensive assistant, Bill Walsh, and when Anderson got drafted, he was trained in the same basic offense Joe Montana would be trained in less than a generation later by the same coach, Walsh.

[redsbengalsbucks]

[size=3]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/05/30/mmqb/2.html

The other day, chatting with former Bengals quarterback Ken Anderson on SiriusXM NFL Radio, I was surprised (stunned, almost) to hear Anderson talk about this part of his legacy. "My yards-per-attempt were the same as Dan Marino's,'' he said. "I don't think anyone would think that.''

So I went to the trusty ProFootballReference.com, to the leader section, and checked yard-per-attempt. There, tied at 7.3 yards per attempt, were Anderson and Marino.

More than that, if you take it out to another decimal place:

Marino 7.34

Anderson 7.34

"The misnomer in our offense was it was a dink-and-dunk offense,'' Anderson said. "Not so. You had to be able to throw it deep.''

Interested, I went on.

Completion percentage:

Marino .594

Anderson .593

Neither won a Super Bowl. Both played in one. Both lost to Joe Montana. Each was two games below .500 as a post-season quarterback. I'm not saying Anderson belongs in the same breath with Marino. Of course he doesn't. Marino did it better, and for longer, and had to carry a franchise on his back for most of 17 years. But what Anderson did for 16 years in Cincinnati is rightfully getting some attention today -- as in Hall of Fame consideration kind of attention. I'm not saying he belongs -- I've always thought of him as a Hall of Very Good member -- but I have to say I'm open to the argument. This being the biggest reason: Ken Anderson was scouted and hand-picked by Paul Brown and his offensive assistant, Bill Walsh, and when Anderson got drafted, he was trained in the same basic offense Joe Montana would be trained in less than a generation later by the same coach, Walsh.

Pure BS Marino might have done it longer, but the stats bare out that Anderson did it just as well. He was also the glue to the Bengals for all the years he played, just like Marino was for the Dolphins. Just as Riley deserves to be in the HOF, because of his stats, so does Kenny Anderson.

[jjakq27]

Agreed.

During the first part of his career he played in a run-first league and for PB. Run first, run early and run often. It wasn't until later during his career that the league and his team changed their philosophy, which ironically was due to his success at running the West Coast Offense for Walsh and PB. Read up on Montana and Dan Fouts and they will both say that they were made to watch tapes of KA by Walsh. Steve Young was just KA ten years later and on a much better team, at the beginning of media saturation of the NFL. If Young doesn't win the Super Bowl, would he have made it? Comparable stats to KA.

If Roger Wehrli got in ahead of Ken Riley and Dick LeBeau, then there is a place for KA and Riley.

/>http://bengalsjungle.com/anderson-hof-qb.html

[jjakq27]

Excellent SI article summarizing KA's achievements when compared to other Hall of Famers.

/>http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/kerry_byrne/06/08/ken-anderson/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_wr_a1

[ArmyBengal]

I'm all about seeing a campaign for Kenny Anderson. He's one of my favorite all time Bengals and think he's deserving.

On a side note, i'm still disgusted by a fans reaction when I went to a Bengals game a couple years ago and while wearing my Kenny Anderson throwback jersey, was asked why I was wearing a "DEREK" Anderson jersey. I looked at him kind of puzzled and said, "It's a KENNY Anderson throwback". His response still haunts me to this very day. Are you ready ?? This clown all decked out in Bengals gear from head to toe replied,

"WHO?"...

There was an odd silence that fell across the people within earshot of our conversation.

[jjakq27]

I'm all about seeing a campaign for Kenny Anderson. He's one of my favorite all time Bengals and think he's deserving.

On a side note, i'm still disgusted by a fans reaction when I went to a Bengals game a couple years ago and while wearing my Kenny Anderson throwback jersey, was asked why I was wearing a "DEREK" Anderson jersey. I looked at him kind of puzzled and said, "It's a KENNY Anderson throwback". His response still haunts me to this very day. Are you ready ?? This clown all decked out in Bengals gear from head to toe replied,

"WHO?"...

There was an odd silence that fell across the people within earshot of our conversation.

Oh my that's sad. I would say it's a generational thing but some of the that should go on the team too. As Bob Trumpy says, "it was Paul's team." No one else was elevated higher than him. Plus the second place teams rarely get the face time of the Super Bowl champs during the replays prior to the championship. Over the years, people tend to forget.

Here is a top 10 of underrated Bengals from the dotcom. I think Riley and Curtis should be in that same conversation and others have pushed for Lamar Parrish also.

Curtis was the reason Pittsburgh developed the Cover 2 and Riley should be in since Roger Wehrli. Riley had better numbers and is in the top 5.

http://www.bengals.c...78-b5df52536619

[jjakq27]

http://cincinnati.co...ing-with-pryor/

KA has been working out with Terrelle Pryor.

Has anyone see clips from the Jon Gruden interview with Pryor? I gotta admit I came away impressed. He seems to be a decent kid and his football IQ was off the charts compared to Cam Newton when Gruden interviewed him before the draft..
/>http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20110629/SPT02/106300332/QB-expert-Jon-Gruden-extols-virtues-Pryor

[HairOnFire]

I'll say it because nobody else will.

Ken Anderson will NEVER recieve serious HOF consideration due to his porn star moustache.

[jjakq27]

KA was passed over on his first Senior ballot but it appears that the committee considers him a serious candidate for future induction into the HoF.

/>http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Andersons-Hall-bid-falls-short-but-campaign-scores/15192421-a0bc-492d-9991-8b75edee9163

[redsbengalsbucks]

He deserves to be in the HOF already, crap he was better than half of the current QB's in it.

[jjakq27]

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20110825/SPT02/108260361/Catching-up-Virgil-Carter

Here's a story on Virgil Carter from today's Enquirer. He actually is the initial "guinea pig" for Walsh and Brown in what would later become known as the West Coast Offense. Anderson would eventually take over and be the prototype QB that others (Montana, Young, Dan Fouts) would be patterned after during Walsh's later travels.

I love the picture in the article BTW.

[jjakq27]

I got this video off of Lance's blog. Great cheesy video of the Bengals vs. the Chiefs from 1974. The first half of the video is mainly about the Cheifs while the second half gives a glimpse of why Ken Anderson was such a good quarterback. With today's 24-7 coverage of the NFL back then, there's no doubt he would be in the HoF by now. Jerry Rice made a career off of the same routes that Isaac Curtis runs in the video.

/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rBr11pxySgc