Trevor Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 So what do people think MLB or SLB? http://www.bengals.com/media-lounge/videos/Roddrick-Muckelroy-Highlights-42810/f3acd654-be37-4688-96c3-d4be77aa8973He needs to gain some muscle to take some punishment but I would have no problem with him bein the Mike next yearlets see, he is probably 235-240 right,.. I think If he can get up to 250 He'll be in great shape to start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 So what do people think MLB or SLB? http://www.bengals.com/media-lounge/videos/Roddrick-Muckelroy-Highlights-42810/f3acd654-be37-4688-96c3-d4be77aa8973He needs to gain some muscle to take some punishment but I would have no problem with him bein the Mike next yearI could see him at MLB more so with the "no character Concerns... Though if they want him at SLB and rey still the future at MLB I wonder how they would do roster.Carry 6 linebackers 3SLB 1MLB and have reyrey get time at position during preseason? Keep 7 backers with Hodge @ MLB or... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 So what do people think MLB or SLB? http://www.bengals.com/media-lounge/videos/Roddrick-Muckelroy-Highlights-42810/f3acd654-be37-4688-96c3-d4be77aa8973He needs to gain some muscle to take some punishment but I would have no problem with him bein the Mike next yearI could see him at MLB more so with the "no character Concerns... Though if they want him at SLB and rey still the future at MLB I wonder how they would do roster.Carry 6 linebackers 3SLB 1MLB and have reyrey get time at position during preseason? Keep 7 backers with Hodge @ MLB or...Rey would probably more of a playmaker at MLB... So if they move rod to strong he should split Reps with brandon johnson... I love haaving good linebackers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePong Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Seriously, not even coverage sacks for Geathers...?Lord only knows that everyone else was able to get some coverage sacks...part reason excited about this draft upgrades in passrush if we could rush the passer better think how much better our CB's will look? vs our CB's having to make our Ends look decent.Yeah, but when Mike Zimmer talked about upgrading the pass rush with Dunlap and Atkins, he spoke mainly in terms of how they can help the INTERIOR pass rush. He talked about how Dunlap has the versatility to move inside on passing downs. That tells me Zimmer was much more satisfied with the pass rush from our DEs than he was with the interior guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 At 6'2, 246, I think he's big enough to play the middle, but we have Dhani for at least one more season and then you have to consider that MLB is Rey's natural position. Muckelroy has played all three spots and in 30 starts at Texas, he had 16 on the weak side, 13 in the middle, and only one on the strong side. Seeing as how the weak side is pretty much locked up with Rivers and Brandon Johnson, they need to figure out if he's better suited for the middle or strong side.If the plan is to move Rey back to the middle at some point, you would think Muckelroy could push Jeanty on the strong side for starting time. I think that would be the better option as opposed to bringing in Muckelroy to take over the middle, while leaving Rey on the outside.Everything you read about Muckelroy talks about his ability and him being a strong leader and "quiet intimidator". I like that.Hopefully they can find a role for him on the strong side and get him some playing time. Are Jeanty's days behind him ?? He's strong against the run, but better can be had and maybe we have that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 At 6'2, 246, I think he's big enough to play the middle, but we have Dhani for at least one more season and then you have to consider that MLB is Rey's natural position. Muckelroy has played all three spots and in 30 starts at Texas, he had 16 on the weak side, 13 in the middle, and only one on the strong side. Seeing as how the weak side is pretty much locked up with Rivers and Brandon Johnson, they need to figure out if he's better suited for the middle or strong side.If the plan is to move Rey back to the middle at some point, you would think Muckelroy could push Jeanty on the strong side for starting time. I think that would be the better option as opposed to bringing in Muckelroy to take over the middle, while leaving Rey on the outside.Everything you read about Muckelroy talks about his ability and him being a strong leader and "quiet intimidator". I like that.Hopefully they can find a role for him on the strong side and get him some playing time. Are Jeanty's days behind him ?? He's strong against the run, but better can be had and maybe we have that now.Rey's weakness is in pass coverage, where he excels in run stopping.Muckelroy is probably already the best pass coverage LB on the team. Perhaps they will use LBs interchangeably. They already do that to a certain extent anyway. Muckelroy just gives Zimmer another versatile toy to tinker with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 I think with the addition of him, Dunlap, and Atkins, Zimmer will be able to throw a bunch of different looks at the opposing offense.That looks like a win / win situation to me. Nothing like being able to improve on the #4 defense in the league !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 At 6'2, 246, I think he's big enough to play the middle, but we have Dhani for at least one more season and then you have to consider that MLB is Rey's natural position. Muckelroy has played all three spots and in 30 starts at Texas, he had 16 on the weak side, 13 in the middle, and only one on the strong side. Seeing as how the weak side is pretty much locked up with Rivers and Brandon Johnson, they need to figure out if he's better suited for the middle or strong side.If the plan is to move Rey back to the middle at some point, you would think Muckelroy could push Jeanty on the strong side for starting time. I think that would be the better option as opposed to bringing in Muckelroy to take over the middle, while leaving Rey on the outside.Everything you read about Muckelroy talks about his ability and him being a strong leader and "quiet intimidator". I like that.Hopefully they can find a role for him on the strong side and get him some playing time. Are Jeanty's days behind him ?? He's strong against the run, but better can be had and maybe we have that now.Rey's weakness is in pass coverage, where he excels in run stopping.Muckelroy is probably already the best pass coverage LB on the team. Perhaps they will use LBs interchangeably. They already do that to a certain extent anyway. Muckelroy just gives Zimmer another versatile toy to tinker with.Ya with his cover skills they may be able to pull Dhani out on Nickle Packages and put Mucklroy & Brandon where before they kept dhani in with Brandon because they didn't want Brandon wearing the headset encase Keith went down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPimp Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Unless Geathers gets him game up, I see him ending up out.Why? He is one of the best 4-3 defensive ends against the run and was top ten in QB hurries last year. \e.he was not top 10 i hurries he wasnt top 32... the guy has not produced since he got his contract.he was ranked 18th-24th with 21 preasures out of 4-3 ends only count 3-4 olbs that knocks him down 10 more spots count 3-4 ends move him down 4 spots so hes more like barley top 40Add to that the fact that he had more than 3.5 sacks ONLY ONCE in 6 seasons. If he was top 10 in QB hurries he would have had more than 3.5 sacks. While Sack numbers in some cases might be misleading, Sacks do END THE PLAY, whereas QB can still complete passes when hurried. So Sacks DO matter.....not to mentions they can also lead to fumbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Unless Geathers gets him game up, I see him ending up out.Why? He is one of the best 4-3 defensive ends against the run and was top ten in QB hurries last year. \e.he was not top 10 i hurries he wasnt top 32... the guy has not produced since he got his contract.he was ranked 18th-24th with 21 preasures out of 4-3 ends only count 3-4 olbs that knocks him down 10 more spots count 3-4 ends move him down 4 spots so hes more like barley top 40Add to that the fact that he had more than 3.5 sacks ONLY ONCE in 6 seasons. If he was top 10 in QB hurries he would have had more than 3.5 sacks. While Sack numbers in some cases might be misleading, Sacks do END THE PLAY, whereas QB can still complete passes when hurried. So Sacks DO matter.....not to mentions they can also lead to fumbles.and with the QB's we played last year Plenty were mobile enough to still toss the ball when they wearn't sack....the raiders for god sakes beat our D line and we couldn't get a single sack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Unless Geathers gets him game up, I see him ending up out.Why? He is one of the best 4-3 defensive ends against the run and was top ten in QB hurries last year. \e.he was not top 10 i hurries he wasnt top 32... the guy has not produced since he got his contract.he was ranked 18th-24th with 21 preasures out of 4-3 ends only count 3-4 olbs that knocks him down 10 more spots count 3-4 ends move him down 4 spots so hes more like barley top 40Add to that the fact that he had more than 3.5 sacks ONLY ONCE in 6 seasons. If he was top 10 in QB hurries he would have had more than 3.5 sacks. While Sack numbers in some cases might be misleading, Sacks do END THE PLAY, whereas QB can still complete passes when hurried. So Sacks DO matter.....not to mentions they can also lead to fumbles.Sacks do matter, but they aren't everything. Geathers had 3.5 sacks, but if he had lets say 7.5 sacks, nobody would be complaining right now. That's the difference of four plays. Are you telling me that four plays out of the hundreds that Geathers plays makes or breaks him? Sacks end the play, but hurries cause interceptions that end the drive, and he consistently hurries the QB.I'm telling you right now that Marvin cares a hell of a lot more about gap control than sacks, and Geathers excels at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickey44 Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 I'm telling you right now that Marvin cares a hell of a lot more about gap control than sacks, and Geathers excels at that.And that's the bottom line, because Blain the Pain said so. This is why Geathers will keep his starting job and will probably come out on passing downs to let Dunlap or MJ come in and rush the passer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 I'm telling you right now that Marvin cares a hell of a lot more about gap control than sacks, and Geathers excels at that.And that's the bottom line, because Blain the Pain said so.I can't really tell if you're trying to be sarcastic here or not. The written word can be difficult in that regard.Either way, it's not because Blain said so nearly as much as it is an observable pattern of behavior.Every time Marvin gets his hands on a good pass rusher, he tells them to add 20 lbs, and stop using double moves... because while they are good for pass rushing, it gets you out of position on running plays.And this is pretty much in keeping with what Zimmer has said about the pass rush problems. They aren't all that interested in getting a pure pass rushing DE to solve the problem. They want a better rush from the interior D-Line, so they can keep leting the DEs do what thyve been trained to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickey44 Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 I'm telling you right now that Marvin cares a hell of a lot more about gap control than sacks, and Geathers excels at that.And that's the bottom line, because Blain the Pain said so.I can't really tell if you're trying to be sarcastic here or not. The written word can be difficult in that regard.No, I was just paraphrasing Stone Cold. I agree completely with what Blain said. Geathers will stay the starter for the reasons listed above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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