What about RB in round #1

[cincyhokie]

Several months ago, before Bernard Scott emerged, and it looked like Benson was the only RB on the roster, there were a good number of mock drafts that had Spiller going to the Bengals.

I went to YouTube and watched some of the highlights, and even was lucky enough to watch a good deal of a Clemson game one Saturday. Despite my best effort, I could not manage to get excited about using a 1st round pick on him.

Now, with Bernard Scott showing that he has NFL ready talent, I'm dead against it. If they draft a RB, I want him to be Thunder, not Lightning.

Imagine if the Jets hadn't traded up to take Shonn Greene from us. There's your thunder right there.

[BengalPimp]

That said, if all your targets are gone, and Spiller is there, you should have no trouble finding a trading partner.

If Spiller is still there at #21 and Mays/Bryant maybe even Thomas are gone, I'm on the phone with San Diego at #28. They should have no trouble picking up another 3rd, probably more if we actually had a GM to pull it off.

#28 should still be able to get us some good players like C/G Maurkice Pouncey, DE Everson Griffin, maybe TE Jermaine Gresham (doubt he falls past New England at #22 though) , WR Golden Tate, NT Terrence Cody, I've seen mocks with Iupati slipping that low, or if they really want a RB Ryan Mathews is more of a "bell cow"

[Kazkal]

That said, if all your targets are gone, and Spiller is there, you should have no trouble finding a trading partner.

If Spiller is still there at #21 and Mays/Bryant maybe even Thomas are gone, I'm on the phone with San Diego at #28. They should have no trouble picking up another 3rd, probably more if we actually had a GM to pull it off.

#28 should still be able to get us some good players like C/G Maurkice Pouncey, DE Everson Griffin, maybe TE Jermaine Gresham (doubt he falls past New England at #22 though) , WR Golden Tate, NT Terrence Cody, I've seen mocks with Iupati slipping that low, or if they really want a RB Ryan Mathews is more of a "bell cow"

That would be nice....3 rds "drools"

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

So if they want him Benson is a Bengal for at least two seasons, and that's plenty. In fact, when you think about the wear RB's endure it may be perfect. To be fair, I'd love to see the Bengals extend Benson's contract if the terms are reasonable. But it's simply not a deal they have to make now. It can even be argued that Benson is better served by a contract extension now than the Bengals would be.

I completely agree. To use an analogy, there's a reason that car dealers put in mileage limits on leases. It's so you don't return the car after the third year with 275,000 miles. That's poor old Benson. If this keeps up, he won't be worth a damn after two more years.

By 2012, he'll be just shy of 30 years old and used like Pam Anderson. I could see giving him two more years for 2011 and 2012, maybe 2013 if the contract is reasonably back-loaded to give the Bengals an exit. But by then he'll be in pieces.

[Trevor]

So if they want him Benson is a Bengal for at least two seasons, and that's plenty. In fact, when you think about the wear RB's endure it may be perfect. To be fair, I'd love to see the Bengals extend Benson's contract if the terms are reasonable. But it's simply not a deal they have to make now. It can even be argued that Benson is better served by a contract extension now than the Bengals would be.

I completely agree. To use an analogy, there's a reason that car dealers put in mileage limits on leases. It's so you don't return the car after the third year with 275,000 miles. That's poor old Benson. If this keeps up, he won't be worth a damn after two more years.

By 2012, he'll be just shy of 30 years old and used like Pam Anderson. I could see giving him two more years for 2011 and 2012, maybe 2013 if the contract is reasonably back-loaded to give the Bengals an exit. But by then he'll be in pieces.

Thomas jones isnt... I understand they are different but they are both workhorses...

[redsbengalsbucks]

That said, if all your targets are gone, and Spiller is there, you should have no trouble finding a trading partner.

If Spiller is still there at #21 and Mays/Bryant maybe even Thomas are gone, I'm on the phone with San Diego at #28. They should have no trouble picking up another 3rd, probably more if we actually had a GM to pull it off.

#28 should still be able to get us some good players like C/G Maurkice Pouncey, DE Everson Griffin, maybe TE Jermaine Gresham (doubt he falls past New England at #22 though) , WR Golden Tate, NT Terrence Cody, I've seen mocks with Iupati slipping that low, or if they really want a RB Ryan Mathews is more of a "bell cow"

Why stock up more picks when some of the ones we have will not make the team this year already.

[Kazkal]

Because it gives you more of a chance at who you want in 3rd round and hopefully make the team in place of a 7th rounder...I'd prefer taking BPA but if theres good chance still getting who we want + a 3rd why not....Look at the patriots they have a shet ton picks this year.

[kingwilly]

The big back from Auburn could be good. Blount from Oregon fits the SoP mold of wayward boys getting a break.

[Kazkal]

Still thing Blount isn't as bad as people think He punched a guy at emotional time

[kingwilly]

Still thing Blount isn't as bad as people think He punched a guy at emotional time

I think folks overreacted to the punch. The tool deserved a pop, and it was only a big deal due to the showcase of the game.

Blount reminds me of Brandon Jacobs or Beanie Wells.

[Kazkal]

Imagine if the Jets hadn't traded up to take Shonn Greene from us. There's your thunder right there.

Eh I'd Still pass I like MJ more and we had Cedben for 2 more years soooo Pass

[ArmyBengal]

Blount is the guy I would like to see them get later on. I'm hoping everyone making jokes about how the Bengals won't pass him up come to be.

He's the big RB we don't have on the roster if something happens to Benson. If he gets hurt, we've got nothing to fill that spot.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

I think folks overreacted to the punch. The tool deserved a pop, and it was only a big deal due to the showcase of the game.

No way. You can't do that crap. Clocking a guy because of on-field trash talk? The kind of crap that goes on at every game? You have to keep your head during that stuff.

Not to mention which, it was a cheap shot since the guy wasn't looking when he hit him.

Hopefully for him he's learned his lesson. If it's anything but a one-time incident, I'd rather not deal with the yellow flags that usually follow that kind of temper.

[Kazkal]

I think folks overreacted to the punch. The tool deserved a pop, and it was only a big deal due to the showcase of the game.

No way. You can't do that crap. Clocking a guy because of on-field trash talk? The kind of crap that goes on at every game? You have to keep your head during that stuff.

Not to mention which, it was a cheap shot since the guy wasn't looking when he hit him.

Hopefully for him he's learned his lesson. If it's anything but a one-time incident, I'd rather not deal with the yellow flags that usually follow that kind of temper.

The guy walked over and shoved Blount after a emotional loss,he was on the winning team and had he never touched blount nothing would have happened..

Ya blount shouldn't have punched him but still IMO Understandable and so far would seem like he learned from his mistake.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

The guy walked over and shoved Blount after a emotional loss,he was on the winning team and had he never touched blount nothing would have happened..

Ya blount shouldn't have punched him but still IMO Understandable and so far would seem like he learned from his mistake.

Blount was still the one that escalated it to an incident that went beyond normal junk. Think he won't get guys provoking him in the NFL now?

[ArmyBengal]

Could care less. If we take him with the comp pick in the 4th or he falls to the 5th, he represents little risk compared to what he would provide the team in regards to bell cow depth that we currently have ZERO of right now. Don't like Blount ?? Cool, just give some other names that could fill the "bell cow" role behind Benson and can be had that late in the draft and I won't complain a bit.

We have to find that depth. We have no backup plan since Larry Johnson left and no other RB on the roster to fill that role.

[Kazkal]

Could care less. If we take him with the comp pick in the 4th or he falls to the 5th, he represents little risk compared to what he would provide the team in regards to bell cow depth that we currently have ZERO of right now. Don't like Blount ?? Cool, just give some other names that could fill the "bell cow" role behind Benson and can be had that late in the draft and I won't complain a bit.

We have to find that depth. We have no backup plan since Larry Johnson left and no other RB on the roster to fill that role.

Blount was still the one that escalated it to an incident that went beyond normal junk. Think he won't get guys provoking him in the NFL now?

Sure he will but like I said hopefully he would have learned his lesson after losing almost entire season and millions he costed himself going from a possible late 1st round-early 2nd to a late 4th/5th round pick...He never had any concerns before that Incident so it's not like it's common for him.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Could care less. If we take him with the comp pick in the 4th or he falls to the 5th, he represents little risk compared to what he would provide the team in regards to bell cow depth that we currently have ZERO of right now.

I hadn't thought he'd fall that far. Did some interwebbing just now, and it looks like he's projected no higher than the 5th. So sure, if he falls to the back of the 5th I'll take him. I mean, hell, it's not like he's been expelled and accused of getting a little too grabby with women like a certain 3rd round pick*.

Sorry, I hadn't realized what round we were talking about.

*That was for you, Hair.

[ArmyBengal]

Could care less. If we take him with the comp pick in the 4th or he falls to the 5th, he represents little risk compared to what he would provide the team in regards to bell cow depth that we currently have ZERO of right now.

I hadn't thought he'd fall that far. Did some interwebbing just now, and it looks like he's projected no higher than the 5th. So sure, if he falls to the back of the 5th I'll take him. I mean, hell, it's not like he's been expelled and accused of getting a little too grabby with women like a certain 3rd round pick*.

Sorry, I hadn't realized what round we were talking about.

*That was for you, Hair.

Exactly... No harm no foul getting him that late. Now taking him earlier ?? I can't say as I would be behind that move.

[HairOnFire]

I hadn't thought he'd fall that far. Did some interwebbing just now, and it looks like he's projected no higher than the 5th. So sure, if he falls to the back of the 5th I'll take him. I mean, hell, it's not like he's been expelled and accused of getting a little too grabby with women like a certain 3rd round pick*.

Sorry, I hadn't realized what round we were talking about.

*That was for you, Hair.

Reading the above it was almost as if I could actually see the lightbulb above your head start to glow.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Reading the above it was almost as if I could actually see the lightbulb above your head start to glow.

Not really, I just thought he was projected earlier. Everything's value in the draft, and a dumb selection in one round becomes a lot less dumb later in the day. If you're talking 5th and I think you mean 3rd, mis-communication will ensue.

I still doubt he'll fall that far, he has all the hallmarks of the 'chic' pick that's so far out it's in. I think the fact that the punch happened week 1 helps him. Story's played out and turned around. All the journalists are falling over themselves praising the kid, and I bet some team wants to think itself clever and takes him a fair amount earlier than the mocks predict. I still bet he doesn't last past mid-4th.

[HairOnFire]

Reading the above it was almost as if I could actually see the lightbulb above your head start to glow.

Not really, I just thought he was projected earlier. Everything's value in the draft, and a dumb selection in one round becomes a lot less dumb later in the day.

But that was exactly my point. Lord knows I've written enough about the risk/reward ratio and why the exact same players who would be smart choices in mid to latter rounds are poor choices if taken too early.

As for Blount, I'm not the least bit interested in seeing him in stripes, but it has nothing to do with his perceived character flaws. Rather, I don't think he's fast enough.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

But that was exactly my point. Lord knows I've written enough about the risk/reward ratio and why the exact same players who would be smart choices in mid to latter rounds are poor choices if taken too early.

Which makes the deciding factor simply one of "what round" in this conversation. Turns out this whole thread is a lovefest. Hair, that cracker's got your name on it.

As for Blount, I'm not the least bit interested in seeing him in stripes, but it has nothing to do with his perceived character flaws. Rather, I don't think he's fast enough.

As in top speed, acceleration, or lateral movement? I've always thought RB top speed was overrated since they rarely run more than 10 yards at a crack.

[HairOnFire]

Which makes the deciding factor simply one of "what round" in this conversation.

In this conversation and every other one as well, including past ones we've shared involving Chris Henry, who died of stupidity, or Frostee Rucker, who has never given the Bengals a hint of a problem.

Hair, that cracker's got your name on it.

Well, I've been known to enjoy myself a cracker from time to time, from the buttery goodness of a Ritz to the salty zest of a saltine. Just make sure the cracker isn't dick-shaped because I've promised to save all of those for Paul Daugherty.

As in top speed, acceleration, or lateral movement? I've always thought RB top speed was overrated since they rarely run more than 10 yards at a crack.

Take your pick I guess. Blount ran in the neighborhood of 4.7 and his 10 and 20 yard splits are comparable to John Conner, the Kentucky FB who just visited the Bengals.

[Kazkal]

I still doubt he'll fall that far, he has all the hallmarks of the 'chic' pick that's so far out it's in. I think the fact that the punch happened week 1 helps him. Story's played out and turned around. All the journalists are falling over themselves praising the kid, and I bet some team wants to think itself clever and takes him a fair amount earlier than the mocks predict. I still bet he doesn't last past mid-4th.

At 240 Lbs guy was able put up a avg of 7.4 his Junior year,Earliest I'd wanna see him though is 3rd round Comp then again I am from Oregon so probably bias.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k0IUGzse_E

better one,Love the play at 55 seconds guy refuses to go down...He also pulls the Leonard Leap every now and then