Potential Free Agent List as of 01-14-10

[AGrizzlyBaer]

Haha I apologize I didn't mean for it to come across as cold as it did... I was just posting a reply to your statement.

[Kazkal]

The TE position I really think hinges on what they do with Kelly. There are a few names that I think have a chance of leaving their teams.

Fasano and Scheffler come to mind, but here is what I found interesting about those two. They each only had 4 more receptions than Faschi did.

Those two and Foschi all had 2 TD's on the season as well. The biggest difference ?? How many times Fasano and Scheffler caught for first downs.

I don't know how many drops Foschi was credited for on the season, but for the most part he's comparable to those two.

Few things First of all I like Foschi and hope he sticks around

-Fasano is known as a blocking Tight End so him having same production is a good thing

-Scheffler was in the Dog House and Orton only knows how to throw to one Receiver...But he'll probably be a Redskin anyways.

[BengalByTheBay]

Haha I apologize I didn't mean for it to come across as cold as it did... I was just posting a reply to your statement.

Oh, it was deserved, just trying to wiggle out of it.

[HairOnFire]

Haha I apologize I didn't mean for it to come across as cold as it did... I was just posting a reply to your statement.

Oh, it was deserved, just trying to wiggle out of it.

You've got to give him props, B3.

He gutted you with just one word.

[Kazkal]

I would be ecstatic if we got Kampman! I just didn't include him b/c I believed it would too good to be true. It would allow Geathers to trim down and worry solely about rushing the passer like he did when he got 10.5 sacks.

With Fanene playing as our 2nd best End,Geathers should be allowed to drop weight anyways 260lb Geathers & MJ On passing downs then 280-290lb Fanene & Odom on Running...Getting Kampman would either make Geathers Cuttable or list Fanene as a DT until they have a injury.

Lol, ah dont get too bummed... You never would have thought MB wouldve gotten all the free agents we got last year either i bet... We can let a few guys go. But i think if we got those 3 guys and some key cog draft picks, we'd be in position to win some playoff games

Roy Williams & Tank Johnson were working for Vet Miniums and were more then likely ZImmers choices not Mikeys,Other then that theres only coles and looked how that worked for us :| I'm sure it will give Mikey a reason Not to spend in Free agency which overall is fine with me.... All I want is a Tight End which isn't too $$$ the rest cap I'd use on Extending young guys long term.

[SupaBran]

Kampman is coming off of season ending ACL surgery. I don't know what he will have left after the surgery and it's not like he's getting younger either. I would almost rather see them continue developing Michael Johnson then throw the money at Kampman and the unknown with his knee.

I did not know that!

[Trevor]

Kampman is coming off of season ending ACL surgery. I don't know what he will have left after the surgery and it's not like he's getting younger either. I would almost rather see them continue developing Michael Johnson then throw the money at Kampman and the unknown with his knee.

He will still be a force... Especially on 3rd downs. And i think that will make him cheaper too. But i'm not sure. I just really want him, hamlin, ant. bryant, and scaife or scheffler... I'll give mike a big hug ! lol ikidikid

[Trevor]

I would be ecstatic if we got Kampman! I just didn't include him b/c I believed it would too good to be true. It would allow Geathers to trim down and worry solely about rushing the passer like he did when he got 10.5 sacks.

With Fanene playing as our 2nd best End,Geathers should be allowed to drop weight anyways 260lb Geathers & MJ On passing downs then 280-290lb Fanene & Odom on Running...Getting Kampman would either make Geathers Cuttable or list Fanene as a DT until they have a injury.

Lol, ah dont get too bummed... You never would have thought MB wouldve gotten all the free agents we got last year either i bet... We can let a few guys go. But i think if we got those 3 guys and some key cog draft picks, we'd be in position to win some playoff games

Roy Williams & Tank Johnson were working for Vet Miniums and were more then likely ZImmers choices not Mikeys,Other then that theres only coles and looked how that worked for us :| I'm sure it will give Mikey a reason Not to spend in Free agency which overall is fine with me.... All I want is a Tight End which isn't too $$$ the rest cap I'd use on Extending young guys long term.

Coles can be very effective in the slot if he learns to tuck the ball away... Man it makes me mad when he holds like a basketball...

[SupaBran]

What about Dawan Landry? I think he's a possibility. He's a good saftey and anytime you can take someone away from a rival is a good thing, plus maybe he's got a little info he would like to share!

[HR24]

I'm gonna try and be realistic here. The guys I would want to add are more role players and depth than anything else. Some starters are in there though. They are as follows:

1. David Carr-he's not great by any means, but he is a definite upgrade over JTO.

2. Kevin Walter-Palmer likes him, has rapport with him, and he know's the offense. He's a gutsy player and can play ST. We should have never let him go.

3. Jason Avant-he would be cheaper than most and has established himself as a good possession guy that can play the slot. I was all for allowing Coles to get into the flow, but now, I think he has hit that WR wall. I think Philly will fight to keep him though.

4. Owen Daniels-I actually think the Texans will let him walk b/c of their draft class from last year. They grabbed two TE's and hit Daniels with the RFA. He didn't like it and he will look elsewhere before coming back to the Texans.

5. Nick Collins-a solid S who wanted out of Green Bay last year. Not sure if that is the case now though.

6. Antoine Bethea-this guy holds the Colts secondary together more than Sanders. There are reports out of Indy that he is regarded as the better player as well. My opinion is this-get a Cover 2 safety that has been trained in it and can play it as opposed to a guy like Ndukwe who gets sucked up on play action and lets people get behind him. Unfortunately, I would imagine Indy will lock this guy up pretty quick.

Thoughts.

[Ickey44]

You know what I'm afraid of? Vick ending up a Bengals next year. They made him an offer last year. What's the chances the Bengals are one of the teams the Eagles call when trying to trade him as everyone thinks they will?

[ArmyBengal]

My thoughts. Nothing more...

I'm gonna try and be realistic here. The guys I would want to add are more role players and depth than anything else. Some starters are in there though. They are as follows:

1. David Carr-he's not great by any means, but he is a definite upgrade over JTO.

GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT. While he may be better than JTO and Carson lite, he still sucks. Draft a QB...

2. Kevin Walter-Palmer likes him, has rapport with him, and he know's the offense. He's a gutsy player and can play ST. We should have never let him go.

I don't know how much Walter still knows about this particluar offense and whatever rapport Carson has with him, the timing would need to start from square one. That being said, he is tough.

3. Jason Avant-he would be cheaper than most and has established himself as a good possession guy that can play the slot. I was all for allowing Coles to get into the flow, but now, I think he has hit that WR wall. I think Philly will fight to keep him though.

Can't really say one way or another there.

4. Owen Daniels-I actually think the Texans will let him walk b/c of their draft class from last year. They grabbed two TE's and hit Daniels with the RFA. He didn't like it and he will look elsewhere before coming back to the Texans.

Blew out knee and THAT is the reason the Texans would let him go, but then again, he was all-world prior to the injury and they might want to bring him back to see if he recovers and gets back to that level.

5. Nick Collins-a solid S who wanted out of Green Bay last year. Not sure if that is the case now though.

I think I read Collins now wanting to go back to Green Bay, but he's solid for sure.

6. Antoine Bethea-this guy holds the Colts secondary together more than Sanders. There are reports out of Indy that he is regarded as the better player as well. My opinion is this-get a Cover 2 safety that has been trained in it and can play it as opposed to a guy like Ndukwe who gets sucked up on play action and lets people get behind him. Unfortunately, I would imagine Indy will lock this guy up pretty quick.

Bethea wouldn't disappoint me, but yeah, I don't see the Colts letting him go either.

Thoughts.

[kingwilly]

I would be ecstatic if we got Kampman! I just didn't include him b/c I believed it would too good to be true. It would allow Geathers to trim down and worry solely about rushing the passer like he did when he got 10.5 sacks.

With Fanene playing as our 2nd best End,Geathers should be allowed to drop weight anyways 260lb Geathers & MJ On passing downs then 280-290lb Fanene & Odom on Running...Getting Kampman would either make Geathers Cuttable or list Fanene as a DT until they have a injury.

Lol, ah dont get too bummed... You never would have thought MB wouldve gotten all the free agents we got last year either i bet... We can let a few guys go. But i think if we got those 3 guys and some key cog draft picks, we'd be in position to win some playoff games

Roy Williams & Tank Johnson were working for Vet Miniums and were more then likely ZImmers choices not Mikeys,Other then that theres only coles and looked how that worked for us :| I'm sure it will give Mikey a reason Not to spend in Free agency which overall is fine with me.... All I want is a Tight End which isn't too $$$ the rest cap I'd use on Extending young guys long term.

Coles can be very effective in the slot if he learns to tuck the ball away... Man it makes me mad when he holds like a basketball...

regarding the Coles comment, when i saw him hold the ball out like that, the first thing I thought was he was trying to twist and reach for the 1st down. Then I saw him catch the ball and run with it like that.

it is a bad habit. I don't want to be worrying about a decade-long veteran having to "learn" to protect the ball. I chalk it up to bad coaching. In fact, despite the O-line's decent play (when there was no pre-snap penalty) I think they were a poorly disciplined unit in general.

Overall, this team lost at least two games due to penalties, which i wholly chalk up to poor discipline, also known as coaching.

[HAPPYJAQ]

My only question is would the Bengals be willing to spend more top dollars for a veteran (or even a 1st round pick) WR? I don't believe so, as it would relegate either Coles or the signee/draftee to 3rd WR status, and we have to remember that this is a "ball control offense" now. FWIW, I think Antonio Bryant would be perfect in this offense, but I wonder how much he would cost. He's still pretty explosive and he averaged over 15YPC on a team with no QB. Coming off a down year, he might be available for a modest price.

None of the veteran TEs look to be any significant upgrade to me. People talk about Scheffler, but he's just as much a headache as Marshall and very one-dimensional. I'd be OK with Scaif, who's averaged about 50 catches the past 3 seasons and is a plus blocker, but I think it's more likely we draft another guy at TE this year. The cupboard is extremely bare there.

I don't see the Bengals breaking the bank for a S like Bethea or Collins, although I really like both players. This is an very, very deep class at S, and we almost pulled the trigger on a couple early last year, according to reports. I'd like to see a more athletic guy who can back up both spots, and there's no guarantee we'll get Roy back. I think Ndukwe is poised for a breakout season, and he looked very good the second half of the season, and his tackling has seemed to improve. As many have stated, I'd rather lock up our CBs and resign Tank and Brandon than bring in any players that may or may not perform well in Zim's system.

[kingwilly]

waltersfootball 2010 mock draft is commenting that Brandon Marshall will probably be traded to the Ravens or Bengals....

/>http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php

dammit, make it so he gets here!!!!!

[Kazkal]

4. Owen Daniels-I actually think the Texans will let him walk b/c of their draft class from last year. They grabbed two TE's and hit Daniels with the RFA. He didn't like it and he will look elsewhere before coming back to the Texans.

Crappy thing is is most of the Tight Ends are Restricted Free Agents even Daniels because it's a uncapped year and Most of them are easilly worth the 2nd round tender if not the higher one...Why I like Fasano because he'll probably have lowest tender out of TE's we'll look at.

[blueridge]

Out of the this group, I think the Bengals should make a play for Kevin Walter and Jerious Norwood.

[blueridge]

I would be ecstatic if we got Kampman! I just didn't include him b/c I believed it would too good to be true. It would allow Geathers to trim down and worry solely about rushing the passer like he did when he got 10.5 sacks.

With Fanene playing as our 2nd best End,Geathers should be allowed to drop weight anyways 260lb Geathers & MJ On passing downs then 280-290lb Fanene & Odom on Running...Getting Kampman would either make Geathers Cuttable or list Fanene as a DT until they have a injury.

Lol, ah dont get too bummed... You never would have thought MB wouldve gotten all the free agents we got last year either i bet... We can let a few guys go. But i think if we got those 3 guys and some key cog draft picks, we'd be in position to win some playoff games

Roy Williams & Tank Johnson were working for Vet Miniums and were more then likely ZImmers choices not Mikeys,Other then that theres only coles and looked how that worked for us :| I'm sure it will give Mikey a reason Not to spend in Free agency which overall is fine with me.... All I want is a Tight End which isn't too $$$ the rest cap I'd use on Extending young guys long term.

Coles can be very effective in the slot if he learns to tuck the ball away... Man it makes me mad when he holds like a basketball...

Coles will not be effective in the slot because he cannot get open and does not have sure hands. He needs to go.

[SupaBran]

I was listening to the Scott Van Pelt show today and they were talking about how Reggie Bush has an $8 million option next year and while Bush showed his talent vs. the Cardinals, they could see his option not being pick up by the Saints next year.

While were dealing with a lot of what-ifs, I would absolutely love to sign him.

I get that everyone is talking about filling needs and RB isn't a need but Bush would be a great change-of-pace back behind CedBen and would be one of the few true playmakers on our offense, especially in the pass game.

What does everyone think?

[cincyhokie]

I was listening to the Scott Van Pelt show today and they were talking about how Reggie Bush has an $8 million option next year and while Bush showed his talent vs. the Cardinals, they could see his option not being pick up by the Saints next year.

While were dealing with a lot of what-ifs, I would absolutely love to sign him.

I get that everyone is talking about filling needs and RB isn't a need but Bush would be a great change-of-pace back behind CedBen and would be one of the few true playmakers on our offense, especially in the pass game.

What does everyone think?

I'd love to have Bush. I don't think we pursue him, however.

[ArmyBengal]

I think Bush would want to much coin and if we were going to go out and get a player that commanded a lot of coin, I've got one name:

Dansby

[Trevor]

I was listening to the Scott Van Pelt show today and they were talking about how Reggie Bush has an $8 million option next year and while Bush showed his talent vs. the Cardinals, they could see his option not being pick up by the Saints next year.

While were dealing with a lot of what-ifs, I would absolutely love to sign him.

I get that everyone is talking about filling needs and RB isn't a need but Bush would be a great change-of-pace back behind CedBen and would be one of the few true playmakers on our offense, especially in the pass game.

What does everyone think?

I'd love to have Bush. I don't think we pursue him, however.

Because we have bernard scott...

[ArmyBengal]

I was listening to the Scott Van Pelt show today and they were talking about how Reggie Bush has an $8 million option next year and while Bush showed his talent vs. the Cardinals, they could see his option not being pick up by the Saints next year.

While were dealing with a lot of what-ifs, I would absolutely love to sign him.

I get that everyone is talking about filling needs and RB isn't a need but Bush would be a great change-of-pace back behind CedBen and would be one of the few true playmakers on our offense, especially in the pass game.

What does everyone think?

I'd love to have Bush. I don't think we pursue him, however.

Because we have bernard scott...

I like Scott and his potential as much as anyone, but that's like saying you don't go after Peyton manning because we have JT O'Sullivan.

You can always upgrade...

[SupaBran]

I was listening to the Scott Van Pelt show today and they were talking about how Reggie Bush has an $8 million option next year and while Bush showed his talent vs. the Cardinals, they could see his option not being pick up by the Saints next year.

While were dealing with a lot of what-ifs, I would absolutely love to sign him.

I get that everyone is talking about filling needs and RB isn't a need but Bush would be a great change-of-pace back behind CedBen and would be one of the few true playmakers on our offense, especially in the pass game.

What does everyone think?

I'd love to have Bush. I don't think we pursue him, however.

Because we have bernard scott...

I like Scott and his potential as much as anyone, but that's like saying you don't go after Peyton manning because we have JT O'Sullivan.

You can always upgrade...

I don't quite think its that extreme of a difference, but I agree.

I do agree tho, that if released by the Saints, will be given a huge contract by someone like the Redskins.

[Pidge]

Why I like Fasano because he'll probably have lowest tender out of TE's we'll look at.

There's a reason for that. A couple in fact. He is largely s**t, very rarely interrupted with periods when he isn't sucking. Also, very slow, not that big a deal for a TE I know but eh. Why settle for that?

To borrow a quote from God Bill Nic:

"It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low. And we of Spurs have set our sights very high, so high in fact that even failure will have in it an echo of glory."