The bad call

[SkinneymulleT]

Watched it on replay and there was no whistle until after the ball came loose and we had it. And ed's comments were something like, the whistle had blown before the defensive player had possession of the fumball, therefore the play is not reviewable and the call of incomplete pass will stand. It does sound like a samantical game and Marvin did not ask for the completion to be reviewed but the fumble? Is that possible? do you only get one choice and if that choice is non reviewable by rule are you allowed to change it to challenge the reviewable mistake? Seems like complete nonsense to me.

[Player4]

Watched it on replay and there was no whistle until after the ball came loose and we had it. And ed's comments were something like, the whistle had blown before the defensive player had possession of the fumball, therefore the play is not reviewable and the call of incomplete pass will stand. It does sound like a samantical game and Marvin did not ask for the completion to be reviewed but the fumble? Is that possible? do you only get one choice and if that choice is non reviewable by rule are you allowed to change it to challenge the reviewable mistake? Seems like complete nonsense to me.

Exactly. This is the way I saw it too and is what I'm trying to convey in my post that started this thread. It's like a request for review of the completion wasn't asked for by Marvin, or that the request for review was misunderstood. That's why I was saying later in this thread that Marvin should have not let this go...he should have emphatically argued his point with the officials instead of "Aw Shucks"...it changed the game.

[BengalByTheBay]

I don't think it IS a rule.

Per Lance's show yesterday, Dave Lapham contacted Jerry Markbreit at the league office and he also said that Hochuli made the right call.

The refs. don't make incorrect calls. That's the position of Jerry Markbreit at the league office. This is hardly surprising. It was, however, a totally wrong call. What is your personal opinion BTW? You keep acting like there is something in the rule book that supports the calls on the field. Well, there isn't. It's a reviewable play. If it's unreviewable, then there must be a rule that says that. Keep looking.......I'll wait.

[jjakq27]

Personally I think it was a bulls**t call. At worst it should have been a catch by Hasselbeck and an 8 yard loss. At best it could have been a fumble recovery by the Bengals.

Unfortunately it was neither. But I am curious why you are so hellbent on saying that it is not a rule when it was called as such. But it doesn't really matter what you or I think at this point anyway.

And BTW you can wait.

[jjakq27]

Did Markbreit offer any reason for his backing of Hochuli? Anything at all?

All I heard was that Lance said that Lapham called Markbreit on Monday and he said the ruling on the field was correct. But I didn't really hear anymore specifics after that.

[oldschooler]

That was a horrible call ! The Ref said something

about it couldn`t be challenged, because they

had ruled it an incompletion and we recovered it.

Whatever that means . . .

Not only was it a catch, but the ground didn`t cause the fumble . . .

[jjakq27]

That was a horrible call ! The Ref said something

about it couldn`t be challenged, because they

had ruled it an incompletion and we recovered it.

Whatever that means . . .

Not only was it a catch, but the ground didn`t cause the fumble . . .

I agree. But as I keep trying to say, Hochuli said that the play could not be reviewed because it was ruled an incompletion on the field and the whistle was blown. But that happens on alot of plays and they can get reviewed and overruled.

It's too bad we weren't able to pick it off. It would have changed things completely.

[oldschooler]

I agree. But as I keep trying to say, Hochuli said that the play could not be reviewed because it was ruled an incompletion on the field and the whistle was blown. But that happens on alot of plays and they can get reviewed and overruled.

It's too bad we weren't able to pick it off. It would have changed things completely.

I`m agreeing with you.

[jjakq27]

I agree. But as I keep trying to say, Hochuli said that the play could not be reviewed because it was ruled an incompletion on the field and the whistle was blown. But that happens on alot of plays and they can get reviewed and overruled.

It's too bad we weren't able to pick it off. It would have changed things completely.

I`m agreeing with you.

I know.