#3 WR

[kenyon1977]

Not sure how many times this has been covered but what the hell I'm new.

Do the Bengals really have a viable option at #3?

How has Brazil progressed? When they drafted him a year ago he had Olympic speed, does he not have the hands or route running?

Why was this not addressed in the off season?

I'm not convinced on Tab Perry. He's had two years. 2005 he played 16 games and had 4 catches. Is this he one chance or do we in Begaldom have to watch this guy be mediocre of half a season before they address it?

[WhoDey93285]

Not sure how many times this has been covered but what the hell I'm new.

Do the Bengals really have a viable option at #3?

How has Brazil progressed? When they drafted him a year ago he had Olympic speed, does he not have the hands or route running?

Why was this not addressed in the off season?

I'm not convinced on Tab Perry. He's had two years. 2005 he played 16 games and had 4 catches. Is this he one chance or do we in Begaldom have to watch this guy be mediocre of half a season before they address it?

When Tab was a rookie he rarely played. Then in 2005, he was more of a option on that third-and-long shovel pass we run more than anything, he wasn't even really used as a reciever. He sat behind Washington, Housh, Johnson, and Henry. Then he was hurt last season. I think he'll be just fine as our 3rd reciever this year.

[Kazkal]

When Tab was a rookie he rarely played. Then in 2005,

Um sir he was a rookie in 2005.

He sat behind Washington, Housh, Johnson, and Henry.

Squirrel wasn't even active on game day when we had both tab & Henry since tab brought something to special teams where henry was our 3# wr.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

We Bengal fans have been spoiled, having gotten used to having basically 3 guys who could start on nearly any team - even Henry would be the #1 on about 10 teams or so. I'm far less concerned about our #3 WR than, say, basically any spot on our defense other than DE.

To answer your question, I'd say that in Henry's absence the #3 spot is wide open. There seem to be about 5 guys who have a chance at the job. Tab, Chatman, Brazell, McNeal, heck maybe even Holt I'd think would have a chance going into camp.

Fact is, only KW had any significant experience as the #3 (and he sucks and is gone). So I'd think there's no way to tell.

I would imagine they'd rather Tab win it, though - he's a pretty big guy, and they need another big target in the red zone - so much so, that there were brief rumors of trying to turn him into a TE (dumb idea, but still...) Also, since he'll probably still be returning kicks, he'll be dressing for game day anyway, and having him be the #3 receiver might free up a spot at another position, if they're deciding between one more WR and one more LB, for example.

That said, they need for someone to step up.

[commish118]

They need someone to step up, but to all of your points there are plenty of options. I am not concerned, especially with the addition of Kenny Irons. We all saw the effect Perry had on the game when he was healthy, now we will have it again. He catches the ball out of the backfield and can be moved out into the slot before the ball is snapped. This will cause major mismatches and prevent teams from concetrating only on Chad and TJ.

Henry is a great weapon, and on other teams he would really be missed. On the Bengals there are so many options it minimizes the loss. Besides, I think in his absence one of these other young WR will get a chance to shine, and they will.

[DesperateDerelict]

Anybody want Squirrel back? From KFFL:

Erik Scalavino, of Patriots.com, reports New England Patriots WR Kelley Washington may not be on the roster when the team finishes training camp.

[markymark69]

I look for it to be Tab Perry or Chatman. I can go along with the notion of both of those guys being unproven. But Perry is big and although does not have Chris Henry's speed, he is much like him in size and I think can get the job done. Chatman, if I'm not mistaken played the role in Green Bay, so he has experience in that spot. But I also see Irons and Watson being used alot out of the backfield.

I am confident the Bengals will be fine in that area.

We also can't rule out a waiver pick-up or some receiver getting cut before the regular season begins, that would ideally fill that role.

[Crazy4Bengals]

Tab Perry is going to be fantastic. You haven't seen him yet. In his rookie season, he was active as a special teams player and return guy. Henry was doing the receiving. That being said, Tab Perry is just as good as Henry, and we'll see it this year.

[711chad]

how in the world culd u say tab is as good as henry...go watch that final game with henry against the steelers...culd tab even do that in practice...tab has a lot to prove and could be a fine option as a 3rd receiver...he's one dimensional in only being a veritical reciever but thats not a big deal since he wont be playing the slot housh will do that so if he can occpy some defenders and provide when call upon that will be more than enough for our high powered offense

[GapControl]

Am I the only one who drools at the obvious sheer athletic talent of Reggie McNeal? Doesn`t he seem the answer to fill the punt return and last wideout position on the team? I think he makes Devin Hester or Dante Hall look like cheerios.

Can somebody on the team coach that guy up or what?

[Kazkal]

I bet anyone Midget won't get more then 300 yards next season, I'd be surprised if he stayed on the team after week 9 with all praise holt has been getting and also looks be tabs replacement on special teams if tab steps up for 3#

[Crazy4Bengals]

how in the world culd u say tab is as good as henry...go watch that final game with henry against the steelers...culd tab even do that in practice...tab has a lot to prove and could be a fine option as a 3rd receiver...he's one dimensional in only being a veritical reciever but thats not a big deal since he wont be playing the slot housh will do that so if he can occpy some defenders and provide when call upon that will be more than enough for our high powered offense

How can I say that? Quite easily. Is Tab as fast in the vertical game as Henry? No. However, Tab Perry has far better hands than Chris Henry. He's not afraid to make a catch even if he is going to be hit, unlike Chris "Alligator Arms" Henry, who is ONLY capable of making catches when noone is going to hit him.

Tab runs better routes, has better hands, and is capable of doing more than running one pattern. Chris Henry, on the other hand, can barely handle "go long and avoid the cops".

[redsbengalsbucks]

how in the world culd u say tab is as good as henry...go watch that final game with henry against the steelers...culd tab even do that in practice...tab has a lot to prove and could be a fine option as a 3rd receiver...he's one dimensional in only being a veritical reciever but thats not a big deal since he wont be playing the slot housh will do that so if he can occpy some defenders and provide when call upon that will be more than enough for our high powered offense

How can I say that? Quite easily. Is Tab as fast in the vertical game as Henry? No. However, Tab Perry has far better hands than Chris Henry. He's not afraid to make a catch even if he is going to be hit, unlike Chris "Alligator Arms" Henry, who is ONLY capable of making catches when noone is going to hit him.

Tab runs better routes, has better hands, and is capable of doing more than running one pattern. Chris Henry, on the other hand, can barely handle "go long and avoid the cops".

I maybe wrong, but I thought that Tab actually had better times than Henry coming in? I seem to remember an article about him being faster than Henry.

[Crazy4Bengals]

how in the world culd u say tab is as good as henry...go watch that final game with henry against the steelers...culd tab even do that in practice...tab has a lot to prove and could be a fine option as a 3rd receiver...he's one dimensional in only being a veritical reciever but thats not a big deal since he wont be playing the slot housh will do that so if he can occpy some defenders and provide when call upon that will be more than enough for our high powered offense

How can I say that? Quite easily. Is Tab as fast in the vertical game as Henry? No. However, Tab Perry has far better hands than Chris Henry. He's not afraid to make a catch even if he is going to be hit, unlike Chris "Alligator Arms" Henry, who is ONLY capable of making catches when noone is going to hit him.

Tab runs better routes, has better hands, and is capable of doing more than running one pattern. Chris Henry, on the other hand, can barely handle "go long and avoid the cops".

I maybe wrong, but I thought that Tab actually had better times than Henry coming in? I seem to remember an article about him being faster than Henry.

Tab doesn't have the initial acceleration that Henry has. BUT, he is a heck of a lot stronger and harder to tackle and can run routes other than Go Long!

[711chad]

so if tab is so good why is there a competition at the 3rd reciever...heck why do we even need henry if tab is so good?

[Crazy4Bengals]

so if tab is so good why is there a competition at the 3rd reciever...heck why do we even need henry if tab is so good?

Uh, depth is good?! Competition is good?

Come on, that's like saying if Chad and TJ are so good, why do we need henry, tab, etc?!

Or... If Rudi is so good, why do we need Kenny Watson, Kenny Irons, etc.

[Kirkendall]

Just to egg on surprising Tab vs. Henry debate...

Tab Perry

40-time: 4.46

20-time: 2.61

10-time: 1.63

Chris Henry

40-time: 4.52

20-time: 2.68

10-time: 1.65

Just goes to show you, with Henry's 15 touchdowns (1 fewer than Chad w/ 5 less games in two seasons) in 27 career games, that combine numbers and rookie season impressions means little.

[redsbengalsbucks]

Just to egg on surprising Tab vs. Henry debate...

Tab Perry

40-time: 4.46

20-time: 2.61

10-time: 1.63

Chris Henry

40-time: 4.52

20-time: 2.68

10-time: 1.65

Just goes to show you, with Henry's 15 touchdowns (1 fewer than Chad w/ 5 less games in two seasons) in 27 career games, that combine numbers and rookie season impressions means little.

Thanks Kirk, I thought maybe I was losing it. I knew I had seen those #'s before.

[Kirkendall]

Actually, I looked it up because I thought, "no way is Tab faster". Low and behold, I was totally wrong.

[Crazy4Bengals]

Just to egg on surprising Tab vs. Henry debate...

Tab Perry

40-time: 4.46

20-time: 2.61

10-time: 1.63

Chris Henry

40-time: 4.52

20-time: 2.68

10-time: 1.65

Just goes to show you, with Henry's 15 touchdowns (1 fewer than Chad w/ 5 less games in two seasons) in 27 career games, that combine numbers and rookie season impressions means little.

One of the main reasons Henry had 15 touchdowns is because teams were doubling Chad AND TJ, which allowed Henry to get open. Many of Chris Henry's TD catches would have been caught just as easily for a TD by a scrub like Glen Holt.

[Kirkendall]

Just to egg on surprising Tab vs. Henry debate...

Tab Perry

40-time: 4.46

20-time: 2.61

10-time: 1.63

Chris Henry

40-time: 4.52

20-time: 2.68

10-time: 1.65

Just goes to show you, with Henry's 15 touchdowns (1 fewer than Chad w/ 5 less games in two seasons) in 27 career games, that combine numbers and rookie season impressions means little.

One of the main reasons Henry had 15 touchdowns is because teams were doubling Chad AND TJ, which allowed Henry to get open. Many of Chris Henry's TD catches would have been caught just as easily for a TD by a scrub like Glen Holt.

Excellent point! But, an argument can be made that Henry causes as much concern for the over the top pass that it also singles up Chad and opens underneath for T.J.

But the truth is, no matter how you spin it, Henry has six more touchdowns than Tab has career receptions and a scrub like Holt could never compare to a guy with the talents of Henry.

I think people would be better off, in the anti-Henry crowd, to rip his effort and dropped TD catches. That's bad, mmmm-kay?

[Crazy4Bengals]

But the truth is, no matter how you spin it, Henry has six more touchdowns than Tab has career receptions and a scrub like Holt could never compare to a guy with the talents of Henry.

I think people would be better off, in the anti-Henry crowd, to rip his effort and dropped TD catches. That's bad, mmmm-kay?

I totally agree. As for Tab's career receptions/touchdowns compared to Henry's, that has a lot to do with Tab starting his career here as a kick return guy, and not being the #3 wide receiver because he was more valuable on special teams. Marvin loves keeping his return guys doing just returns and special teams coverages. Not only that, but Tab Perry also missed a lot of playing time with his injury.

I believe that once he gets his moment, while Henry is sidelined for half a season for perpetual idiocy, Tab will show us he is the real deal and will be if not better than Chris Henry, just as good. Tab has size, strength, speed, and smarts over Henry. He's also the kind of player who will go up for a tough catch instead of getting alligator arms.

[Kirkendall]

I believe that once he gets his moment, while Henry is sidelined for half a season for perpetual idiocy, Tab will show us he is the real deal and will be if not better than Chris Henry, just as good. Tab has size, strength, speed, and smarts over Henry. He's also the kind of player who will go up for a tough catch instead of getting alligator arms.

I hope so. Because this first half of the season isn't going to be forgiving, at all. Someone will need to step up...

[kenyon1977]

You can run a 4 flat 40 but if you're a p***y and afraid to get hit then you are useless. Look at deion Sanders. Hehehe he was fast but would get out of the way instead of tackling.

Sissy.

I want a #3 like what T.O. did to breakout, over the middle, in the endzone, game winning catch getting blasted by a guy from each side and NOT DROP THE BALL.

Can we get someone like that??? Not TO though man he's a virus.

[GapControl]

You can run a 4 flat 40 but if you're a p***y and afraid to get hit then you are useless. Look at deion Sanders. Hehehe he was fast but would get out of the way instead of tackling.

Sissy.

I want a #3 like what T.O. did to breakout, over the middle, in the endzone, game winning catch getting blasted by a guy from each side and NOT DROP THE BALL.

Can we get someone like that??? Not TO though man he's a virus.

I guess you must not mean the Deion Sanders who is widely agreed to be the best cover corner in the history of the NFL. You must be talking about some Deion Sanders bouncing around in the arena league. Deion didn`t tackle because no one threw the ball at him.