Tight End??

[jonf45uk]

hi,

we seem to be a bit thin at tight end again.

anyone know if marvin's got a master plan?,or are we going 3/4 wide on every down!!

(or have they told chris perry to bulk up and be a little more flexible?)

any ideas?

jon

[Kazkal]

Chris Perry? who's that? ohya I remember the RB who never can make it on the field.

Anywho we don't need no stinking Tight End,Even with Chris henry out for 8 games we still have CJ,TJ +RUdi and abunch of other WR's who are rdy to step up so we will continue to live without a passcatching TE....Ghent or day will probaley make the team but get very lil play minus reggie getting hurt.

[The PatternMaster]

Ronnie Ghent, Tim Day, or some tight end of the scrap heap.

My money is on Day, he was a good pass catching TE at Oregon and if he can improve his blocking will be a good fit for this system.

[DesperateDerelict]

I believe they are looking at utilizing the 'H' back more this season, with Jeremi Johnson & Tab Perry & Ronnie Ghent sharing time

[redsbengalsbucks]

Ronnie Ghent, Tim Day, or some tight end of the scrap heap.

My money is on Day, he was a good pass catching TE at Oregon and if he can improve his blocking will be a good fit for this system.

A poor blocking pass-catching TE is not a good fit for this team.

I think they are looking at JJ and Tab becoming short passing options that most teams use TE's for.

[The PatternMaster]

So they are only going into the season with 1 TE, someone has to be the second TE right? Regardless if he gets alot of playing time, I think Day will be the #2 TE on the 2007 Bengals.

[JoePong]

Right now, Dan Coats is probably #2. Lapham says he has been impressive. Tim Day is in the mix too. His blocking is pretty good-he can be a Reggie Kelly type, but average as a receiver.

But either way, it will be Kely starting and Coats and Day as the backups.

[Clackwoods]

Right now, Dan Coats is probably #2. Lapham says he has been impressive. Tim Day is in the mix too. His blocking is pretty good-he can be a Reggie Kelly type, but average as a receiver.

But either way, it will be Kely starting and Coats and Day as the backups.

The NBA Draft is coming up...We should go and find someone who is very athletic that doesn't get drafted and try him out at TE. That is a long shot, but hey it has worked for other teams....IE: SanDiego Crazy thought, just throwing it out there

[derekshank]

I fully expect the Bengals to sign a FA TE that will play behind Kelly. I don't have a lot of faith in anyone else on the roster. If Marvin does... fine by me, but I'd be surprised.

[Bobcat Bengal]

Here's an archive scouting report on Tim Day:

Tim Day TE Oregon

Strengths

Tim Day is a good pass catching TE. He shows good hands, runs solid routes, knows how to free himself up and sit down in zones to keep himself open. He will go get the ball and understands how to slow down and keep the defender on his back when running a route. Tim shows good speed and solid run after the catch ability.

Needs to Improve

Tim is just not interested in blocking at all. He has not improved in this area from year to year because it seems like he's just not interested in improving in this area. If he had 4.35 speed, you could overlook this little indiscretion in his game. The fact that he has only average speed for his position makes it hard to draft Tim with any confidence that he can become a complete TE.

Bottom Line

I guess Tim has tried to become a better blocker. I know that he has had some nagging injuries. But when you see him do things like forget the snap count in the middle of a game and not try to fire out to make his block, you just have to think that maybe his heart is not into being a football player. As you all know, I do my evaluations from film. I don’t know if Tim has any other problems that have caused him to go backwards in his development, but he did have some very good talent when I first saw him. That talent has not developed and I think Tim might have missed the big picture on his career. I would take a chance on him in free agency, but I just don’t think I would be interested in drafting him. Tim needs an attitude adjustment. Even if he's had injuries, as far as I’m concerned, that does not excuse the lack of heart and effort to get better. If he has had some personal problems and has not been able to adapt and overcome them, then all I can say is at the next level, these personal problems will continue. I don’t know why Tim has not gotten better, but he is running out of excuses. Maybe I’m being a little hard on Tim, but I just expected a better player than he has become and I’m a little shocked at the lack of development in his overall game. I expected Tim to be a first day draft pick in this draft and now I’m not sure if he should even be drafted! I’m sure he will, but I just hope that after he is drafted he gets the emotional kick in the pants that he seems to need so that he can become the complete TE that I think he can become.

[The PatternMaster]

Here's an archive scouting report on Tim Day:

Tim Day TE Oregon

Strengths

Tim Day is a good pass catching TE. He shows good hands, runs solid routes, knows how to free himself up and sit down in zones to keep himself open. He will go get the ball and understands how to slow down and keep the defender on his back when running a route. Tim shows good speed and solid run after the catch ability.

Needs to Improve

Tim is just not interested in blocking at all. He has not improved in this area from year to year because it seems like he's just not interested in improving in this area. If he had 4.35 speed, you could overlook this little indiscretion in his game. The fact that he has only average speed for his position makes it hard to draft Tim with any confidence that he can become a complete TE.

Bottom Line

I guess Tim has tried to become a better blocker. I know that he has had some nagging injuries. But when you see him do things like forget the snap count in the middle of a game and not try to fire out to make his block, you just have to think that maybe his heart is not into being a football player. As you all know, I do my evaluations from film. I don’t know if Tim has any other problems that have caused him to go backwards in his development, but he did have some very good talent when I first saw him. That talent has not developed and I think Tim might have missed the big picture on his career. I would take a chance on him in free agency, but I just don’t think I would be interested in drafting him. Tim needs an attitude adjustment. Even if he's had injuries, as far as I’m concerned, that does not excuse the lack of heart and effort to get better. If he has had some personal problems and has not been able to adapt and overcome them, then all I can say is at the next level, these personal problems will continue. I don’t know why Tim has not gotten better, but he is running out of excuses. Maybe I’m being a little hard on Tim, but I just expected a better player than he has become and I’m a little shocked at the lack of development in his overall game. I expected Tim to be a first day draft pick in this draft and now I’m not sure if he should even be drafted! I’m sure he will, but I just hope that after he is drafted he gets the emotional kick in the pants that he seems to need so that he can become the complete TE that I think he can become.

So his talent was never in question, just his attitude. I think not getting drafted and bouncing around the league has helped him to get his mind right, hopefully he's focused on improving every aspect of his game because he has the talent to be a good player in the NFL, imo.