HoosierCat Posted October 13 Report Posted October 13 Bengals open as 5.5 point home dogs. must-win game imo. Quote
volcom69 Posted October 13 Report Posted October 13 Ok so with them playing these rookie LB I have a feeling it’s going to be a big learning curve, but if they start early and finish this could be huge for both of them moving forward. I do question the coach that is coaching them, well Golden that is. Not sure what to make of him yet, but man at times there are some good things, and other times he make me so mad. Hopefully they get good things out of these young LBs I’ll be excited to see what they bring moving forward DJ Turner looks like a keeper sign him now befofe he becomes way to expensive, and find other CBs to go with him. Time to move on from CTB, maybe even Jordan Battle. I’m so sick of guys throwing there bodies at guys holding they just fall, or instead of tackling they try and rip the ball out and they get 10 more yards, why does nobody wrap to tackle anymore! Oh Dax Hill is playing good also. So there are some pieces, so build around them! 1 Quote
HoosierCat Posted October 13 Author Report Posted October 13 So much for the Taylor coaching tree. Quote
TJJackson Posted October 13 Report Posted October 13 Rapistburgers 37, Bengals 8 Murphy with the safety Quote
volcom69 Posted October 13 Report Posted October 13 4 hours ago, HoosierCat said: So much for the Taylor coaching tree. Well maybe he can tell his dad to stop by the Bengals org to take a look at this o-line, maybe he can see how to fix it. I mean it’s worth a shot they should have another eye on these guys Quote
AMPHAR Posted October 14 Report Posted October 14 So tried of the Bengals playing like crap against the Steelers at home. For me its a must win or get fired kinda game. I know that won't happen, but come on this season sucks right now. Do something. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted October 14 Report Posted October 14 This is totally a game I could see the Bengals winning. Not that they should or will, but it just wouldn't shock me either. I love how Tomlin is all butt hurt about the Browns trading Flacco to the Bengals. Not that I disagree with him, but it always amused me. He said you don't help a team in the division when they are down. Again, I don't necessarily disagree with him. Here's the other thought though. Flacco might win enough games to take the Bengals out of getting a blue chip player in the draft. Honestly, I think that's a more damaging thought process to the Bengals than thinking they are going to make a run and shit. I don't give the Browns enough credit to be thinking like that when making a trade of that nature though. Bengals 27 Steelers 24 Why not? 1 Quote
HoosierCat Posted October 14 Author Report Posted October 14 Looking at Dehner's column today, some injury and performance notes. Hendrickson is viewed as "day to day" with a hip injury. Not ruled out yet. Zac "optimistic" that Stewart will play. Gesicki (pec) probably headed to IR. Opens a roster spot for Patrick, at least. Hudson (concussion) likely out Thursday, too, so TE is suddenly thin. CTB at risk of falling behind Newton. Quote
HoosierCat Posted October 14 Author Report Posted October 14 56 minutes ago, ArmyBengal said: Here's the other thought though. Flacco might win enough games to take the Bengals out of getting a blue chip player in the draft. Honestly, I think that's a more damaging thought process to the Bengals than thinking they are going to make a run and shit. I don't give the Browns enough credit to be thinking like that when making a trade of that nature though. Bengals 27 Steelers 24 Why not? Yup. Currently, the Bengals hold the 7th overall pick. They are at the top of the pack of 2-4 teams thanks to their pathetic SoS (.459). There are five 1-5 teams above them, but all have stronger SoS numbers. If they lose, they are pretty much guaranteed to move up to 6 since either Cleveland or Miami will be 2-4 after the weekend, and they could in theory move into the top 5. In short, it's high time to start winning some games to eff up that pick. Bengals 31-Steelers 24 Quote
ArmyBengal Posted October 14 Report Posted October 14 Much like the last time Burrow went down. The only thing that really excites me is waiting to see what draft pick we end up with. It's not every year a team with an above average QB is seen picking in the top 10. With that being said, I too expect them to screw that up. Beating the Steelers really wouldn't hurt my feelings though. Just temper that shit. Side note... Can someone call TJ Housh and tell him to come get his boy Burton? I mean seriously, consecutive healthy scratches. Note to self, don't listen to TJ Housh anymore about draft prospects. Still can't pull his head out of his ass enough to know you can't be late to practice. Fucking two cent head turd. Quote
volcom69 Posted October 14 Report Posted October 14 4 hours ago, HoosierCat said: Looking at Dehner's column today, some injury and performance notes. Hendrickson is viewed as "day to day" with a hip injury. Not ruled out yet. Zac "optimistic" that Stewart will play. Gesicki (pec) probably headed to IR. Opens a roster spot for Patrick, at least. Hudson (concussion) likely out Thursday, too, so TE is suddenly thin. CTB at risk of falling behind Newton. Speaking of Patrick I really would like to see him over Rivers, and let Risner continue to start. See if they can establish any kind of running game with the more established players playing. Quote
HoosierCat Posted October 14 Author Report Posted October 14 25 minutes ago, volcom69 said: Speaking of Patrick I really would like to see him over Rivers, and let Risner continue to start. See if they can establish any kind of running game with the more established players playing. I dunno, Chase Brown averaged 4.7 yards a carry against the Packers, his best mark of the year. Problem was he only got 9 carries. Over the last three weeks he's averaged just over 4 yards a carry, versus 2 yards per carry over the first three weeks. Not saying they shouldn't put in Patrick if he's healthy, but not sure the run game isn't already improving. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted October 14 Report Posted October 14 Is there any hope that losing out might get Zac fired or is that just wishful thinking? Quote
HoosierCat Posted October 14 Author Report Posted October 14 9 minutes ago, ArmyBengal said: Is there any hope that losing out might get Zac fired or is that just wishful thinking? Not sure what it would take but I think Zac is still on the hot seat. CW going into the season was that it was playoffs or bust for Taylor this year. I don't actually know if that was true, but given the amount of money they threw around to keep the Big Three (Jamarr, Tee, Trey), I strongly suspect they were expecting something more than 6 or so wins and "better luck next year." Burrow getting hurt gave them the perfect out to give Zac a do-over year in 2026. And had they stuck with Browning I would be thinking that's the plan. But they did not. They actually gave up (an admittedly small amount of) draft capital to the *Cleveland Browns* of all teams to get Joe Flacco. And from reports about the trade, it seems like Tobin was the driving force. Is Duke trying to save Zac's job? Again, I don't know, but it kind of feels that way, doesn't it? So yeah, I would say losing out would cost Zac his job. But I think missing the playoffs might still do it, too. The wild card (as discussed a week or two ago around these parts) is Joe Burrow. He will get a vote and he could probably get the organization to give Taylor his final year (2026) to right the ship. Just my $0.02. Quote
Prophecy Posted October 14 Report Posted October 14 3 hours ago, ArmyBengal said: Is there any hope that losing out might get Zac fired or is that just wishful thinking? I'd hate to see them lose out, but as a fan, it needs to happen to get Zac and his crew out, and get impact players in the draft. Not just a high 1st, but a high 2nd, 3rd, etc. Then again, Bengals scouting department is crap and has missed on 1st Rd picks. For every Myles Murphy or Shemar Stewart, I only see missed opportunities at good Olinemen ready to play. The 1 time they do pick one, its a guy with 8 career college starts (still not ready a year and a half later) Quote
HoosierCat Posted October 14 Author Report Posted October 14 Hendrickson doubtful Stewart will play, per Golden Quote
ArmyBengal Posted October 15 Report Posted October 15 As always when it comes to the thought of replacing a coach, who do they get to replace them? Much like the scouting department and their inabilities, the front office will probably go with some unknown “up and comer”. I just dislike Zac to such a degree that I don’t care. Time to let the next guy up try to catch lightning. Quote
HoosierCat Posted October 15 Author Report Posted October 15 10 hours ago, ArmyBengal said: As always when it comes to the thought of replacing a coach, who do they get to replace them? Much like the scouting department and their inabilities, the front office will probably go with some unknown “up and comer”. I just dislike Zac to such a degree that I don’t care. Time to let the next guy up try to catch lightning. Yeah, they don't have much in the way of internal candidates...which sort of points out another issue: a new HC is going to want to bring in his own staff, so they wouldn't be just firing Zac, they'd essentially be tossing Pitcher out the door after his second year and Golden after just one season. Is the FO really ready to blow it all up? Quote
ArmyBengal Posted October 15 Report Posted October 15 32 minutes ago, HoosierCat said: Yeah, they don't have much in the way of internal candidates...which sort of points out another issue: a new HC is going to want to bring in his own staff, so they wouldn't be just firing Zac, they'd essentially be tossing Pitcher out the door after his second year and Golden after just one season. Is the FO really ready to blow it all up? Probably not, but it only really begs one question. What have they seen that makes someone just HAVE to keep them around? I like Pitcher and liked the hiring of Golden, but can't say them leaving would wreck my world as a fan either. Another good question is, at what point in time are the players going to see people be held accountable for the inability to succeed? There are worse things in life than lighting a fire under the ass of those who may be just getting by and getting paid. Zac had his opportunity to catch lightning and he missed. He was that close and I loved that time, but it's no longer working. Quote
COB Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 I’m looking forward to watching Barrett Carter play. Not sure how long I’ll be able to take it, eventually watching the Steelers beat us gets to be a little too much and I turn it off. If Carter can turn into a player, he’ll somewhat salvage Clemson’s reputation. We drafted Jackson Carmen and Myles Murphy from Clemson, and it’s difficult to forgive Dabo and Duke Tobin for that basic fraud. We got Tee Higgins from there so that salvages it somewhat. Carter being elevated to starter over a long term stalwart like Logan Wilson is, as Hoosier pointed out, quite a step for the Bengals. Welcome to the 1980s, Bengal Front Office Philosophy! 1 Quote
AMPHAR Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 Coaching change talk is worthless jibberish unless its addressing two factors: 1. Burrow. 2. Bengals view 2015 as bad circumstance ruining 2015. It can be argued that "bad circumstances" ruined back to back AFC Champ opportunity. So you know the Bengals are going to fear the downside of blowing it all up against the upside which 2022. They made some all-time bad decisions trying to get Marvin/Dalton back to 2015. But to the point; anybody speculating on "coaching change" at this point to be credible in my mind as to address these 2 points. If you change the coach? Do you dump Burrow? Do you let Burrow in on the coaching search? If you are top 5 drafting in a loaded QB class, should you dump Burrow and the coach? Quote
HoosierCat Posted October 16 Author Report Posted October 16 2 hours ago, AMPHAR said: If you change the coach? Do you dump Burrow? Do you let Burrow in on the coaching search? If you are top 5 drafting in a loaded QB class, should you dump Burrow and the coach? Tossing that question around in the last few posts here: Quote
ArmyBengal Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 Moving on from Burrow is not something I really want to consider, but that may be flawed thinking. It's "similar" in a loose interpretation to the endowment effect where you overvalue what you have in comparison to an identical thing you don't. I say similar in that it's not identical (Burrow vs. rookie) but I think people simply can't envision moving on or that it may actually be beneficial. If there is a new coach brought in, I would say everything including moving on from Burrow "should" be on the table. I don't believe for one minute the front office would move in that direction though. It's really a tough question in my opinion. You either have a franchise QB or you don't. Would they risk giving up on one, even if injury concerns exist, in the hopes of finding another? That just doesn't feel like a Bengals thing to do. Quote
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