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Jeremi "Tank" Johnson and our Defensive Line....


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Ive watched Jeremi Johnson run and catch the ball and I marvel at his quick feet for a big man..

I cant help but believe if Paul Brown were alive he'd be using Jerimi in short yardage situations like the Steelers use the Bus since theyre the same size..

I know he's a great blocker but if he needs a lead blocker we have Nick Luchey for those duties...

I'd like to see him get a chance to use that power..

If the Steelers have the Bus why cant we counter with the "Tank" ???

As for our defensive line.. With all the speed Marvin has accumulated at the linebacking spots it seems he might be ready to look for that big NT of occupy blockers and let our small but quick backers do what he drafted them for.. Thornton and Robinson are DE's by trade put into the tackle spots..

Our front 3 of Thornton and Robinson at DE with a rotation of Clemons and Geathers makes sense to me IF we have that NT in place.. Shaun Smith could be the backup NT in this scheme.

A lineup of Thornton and Robinson at DE with a big NT in the middle

Pollack Johnson Thurman and Simmons as backers to tackle and blitz...

Is a 34 coming soon to Cincy??

Thought on this???

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Rudi is a power-back. I see no need to bench both Rudi and Perry, in order to try to put in Nick Luchey and give Jeremi Johnson the ball. In the last 3 years he has only gotten 21 carries... so running the ball is not his strength. He's not that type of back. He is only averaging 2.4 YPC, and Rudi is just fine in those situations.

As for the D-Line... I'm not a big fan of the 3-4, and would be dead set against playing Robinson and Thornton as our DE's. Robinson is a good DT... and the draft is loaded this year with better DT's than Thornton, so I really doubt we'll have any DT problems to complain about next year.

If you don't like Justin Smith and Geathers... I can understand that, but I think Smith is still excellent at stopping the run. Geathers has been somewhat disappointing, but there are also several big name DE's coming out in free agency this year, so we could grab one of those if need be. Think about a D-Line next year that goes something like...

John Abraham (NYJ), Bryan Robinson, Jesse Mahelona (SR @Ten), Justin Smith

That added with our current team would be a superbowl waiting to happen.

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For the 5 millionth time there is no base 3-4 defense coming to Cincy any time soon.

Also, Geathers is more effective with his inside rush than people think - focus on him on tape - it's just that no one else is feeding off of the pressure he creates. The guy can fly for his size, and is improving again finally.

Thornton had a nice game Sunday as did Landon Johnson. It seems those two were playing with a curious sense of urgency.

That said GB seemed to adjust in the 2nd half to Cincy's defense and the Bengals' didn't seem to adjust to anything again.

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I don't think you have to go to a 3-4 to use a big, fat, nasty DT. We definitely need someone with some size. Also, we need Odell and Simmons not to run straight into the pile on end arounds, as that is absolutely killing us.

I gotta say, I don't quite understand our D-line - they're not getting much QB pressure, and they're not stopping the run for the most part. Jumpy isn't getting enough QB pressure, in my mind, to justify being out there on running downs at all.

In the last game, I was actually pleased with Powell.

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Rudi is a power-back. I see no need to bench both Rudi and Perry, in order to try to put in Nick Luchey and give Jeremi Johnson the ball. In the last 3 years he has only gotten 21 carries... so running the ball is not his strength. He's not that type of back. He is only averaging 2.4 YPC, and Rudi is just fine in those situations.

I see a flaw in your logic. He has gotten only 21 carries because that is the number of times his number has been called. :huh:

I am a little intrigued by the idea of a short yardage specialist. Didn't Chicago use the fridge insted of Walter Payton? :blink:

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Rudi is a power-back. I see no need to bench both Rudi and Perry, in order to try to put in Nick Luchey and give Jeremi Johnson the ball. In the last 3 years he has only gotten 21 carries... so running the ball is not his strength. He's not that type of back. He is only averaging 2.4 YPC, and Rudi is just fine in those situations.

I see a flaw in your logic. He has gotten only 21 carries because that is the number of times his number has been called. :huh:

I am a little intrigued by the idea of a short yardage specialist. Didn't Chicago use the fridge insted of Walter Payton? :blink:

My point is that if he was the type of back that was efficient the way we are talking about... he would have more than 21 carries. If Marvin thought he was a better short-yardage back that Rudi... I imagine he would have more than 4 carries this year.

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Rudi is a power-back. I see no need to bench both Rudi and Perry, in order to try to put in Nick Luchey and give Jeremi Johnson the ball. In the last 3 years he has only gotten 21 carries... so running the ball is not his strength. He's not that type of back. He is only averaging 2.4 YPC, and Rudi is just fine in those situations.

I see a flaw in your logic. He has gotten only 21 carries because that is the number of times his number has been called. :huh:

I am a little intrigued by the idea of a short yardage specialist. Didn't Chicago use the fridge insted of Walter Payton? :blink:

My point is that if he was the type of back that was efficient the way we are talking about... he would have more than 21 carries. If Marvin thought he was a better short-yardage back that Rudi... I imagine he would have more than 4 carries this year.

I disagree....JJ is a power back...He's quick.. hell he has to get thru the line to block before rudi gets there so dont tell me he cant run....He's 40lbs heavier to boot...

Paul Brown loved that type of runner and they were effective....

Marvin's mindset is that Jerimi should block for Rudi...I think Jerimi should at least get the opportunity to see what he's got....He may not be a "Bus but then again who reallyl knows....

Marvin is a good coach that doesnt mean he's allways right.. Hell he keeps playing the same schemes with the Dlinemen knowing that they arent holding up... What the hell is the matter with at lest giving Shaun Smith a chance.. Can he be any worse!!!

BTW Shula... If your not on the coaching staff dont emphasize that this team will never go to a 34.. You dont know that.....

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Rudi is a power-back. I see no need to bench both Rudi and Perry, in order to try to put in Nick Luchey and give Jeremi Johnson the ball. In the last 3 years he has only gotten 21 carries... so running the ball is not his strength. He's not that type of back. He is only averaging 2.4 YPC, and Rudi is just fine in those situations.

As for the D-Line... I'm not a big fan of the 3-4, and would be dead set against playing Robinson and Thornton as our DE's. Robinson is a good DT... and the draft is loaded this year with better DT's than Thornton, so I really doubt we'll have any DT problems to complain about next year.

If you don't like Justin Smith and Geathers... I can understand that, but I think Smith is still excellent at stopping the run. Geathers has been somewhat disappointing, but there are also several big name DE's coming out in free agency this year, so we could grab one of those if need be. Think about a D-Line next year that goes something like...

John Abraham (NYJ), Bryan Robinson, Jesse Mahelona (SR @Ten), Justin Smith

That added with our current team would be a superbowl waiting to happen.

Abraham puts up the stats, but seems to be a malcontent...maybe Marvin could reel him in....

being a Vol fan, Mahelona would be a definite upgrade.... ;)

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Hey Walshfan, perhaps you should open your ears then...

MARVIN LEWIS HAS SAID NO 3-4

LESLIE FRASIER SAID NO 3-4

CHUCKIE B SAID NOT MUCH 3-4

Get the idea yet?

You ever change your mind on something that doesnt seem to be working???

Maybe you dont thickhead.

Doesn't seem to be working? Wake up and smell the defense. Our overall yardage defense is middle of the pack, true. HOWEVER, we do have the #4 scoring defense in the league. We do lead the league in creating turnovers. We DO have the most wins in our division, and are tied for the second most wins in the league.

Seems our defense as a whole is working just fine.

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Offense dont touch it, its fine!!!

Defense, a lot better than it has been in the past.

I think that our pass Defense is great, a lot better than in the past couple years.

Creating Turnovers is not a problem.

Our main problem is that we are having trouble with the run. I dont think that the 3-4 is for us. Duane has 2.0 sacks( in 4 games) since coming back. I think that if both Justin can get pressure like Duane has been getting lately then we'll be okay. I think 4-3 is for us.

Get that guard who hit that fan, he'd be perfect for our run D!

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