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Can't find 53 NFL Players on this roster

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This morning, I decided to try my hand at building a Bengals Roster. This is something I do every year because I am a giant nerd.

My problem is when combing through the roster, I cannot find 53 NFL Players. 

We have talent on the roster for sure but there are areas of startling lack of depth.  A good example is the Offensive Line, I came into this thinking there is no way they keep Andre Smith on the roster now, there is no way he isn't on the roster given what else they have to work with....

Here is my Roster, you guys let me know where I am missing guys.

Offense:

QB:  They keep three with Dolegala on the PS.  Dalton (duh), Driskel, Finley (can't stash him on the
PS he will get grabbed) - no others left on the roster

RB: 3 with Anderson on the IR.  Mixon, Bernard, Trayveon Williams.  Placing Anderson on the IR is smart, that will allow him to take a medical redshirt year and more time to get that knee right.  This leaves Jordan Ellis and Quinton Flowers and neither are 53 man roster players

TE: Keeping 3 - Eifert, Sample, and Uzomah on the roster.  You can make an argument with either Franks or Carter making the roster but both seem like fringe guys, keep one on the PS cut the other.  They still get a foreign player exception for Boeringer so stash him away for another year, that leaves just Schreck and he has show nothing the last 3 seasons.

WR: Keeping 6 (7 with Green) - Boyd, Ross, Core, Erickson, and Malone all make the team.  Take the best one of Tate, Morgan, and Damion Willis and put the other two on PS.  Put Green on the IR and shelve him for the first 6 games, don't mess around with this give him time to heal.  When I did my first 53 man roster I had all three (Tate, Morgan, and Damion Willis) on the PS which is truly where they belong IMHO).

OT: Keeping 3 (yikes) - Glenn, Hart, and Smith ugh..... Jonah Williams goes on the Season Ending IR.  Here is what is left over at Tackle....Kent Perkins, Keaton Sutherland, and O'Shea Dugas....these guys are not NFL caliber players IMHO.

OG: Keeping 5 - Trey Hopkins, Miller, Jerry, Jordan, Westerman -  I guess you keep Redmond but honestly he seems like a cut to me after three years of uninspiring performance, keeping 6 Guards does not help the situation at Tackle.  This leaves just Justin Evans on the Roster to be cut.

C: Just Keeping 1 - Price.  The other guys listed at C is Brad Lundblade whoever that is....

Adding up 3 QBs, 3 RBs, 3 TEs, 6 WRs, 3 Tackles, 5 Guards, and a Center you get....24 One short of 25 and I guess you argue that Green will get the last slot but really we should IR him for the first six or risk further issues and complications.  This is an awful tight roister, usually in my first draft  I come up with 30 or so players, here I can barely come up with 25...not good, and that is with the Bengals carrying 3 QBs which is unheard of in the ML era.

Defense: here it gets little easier but we are very much relying on young guys to step up

CB: Keeping 6...Kirkpatrick, Dennard, Will Jackson, Webb, Russell, and Darius Phillips.  This leaves Jordan Brown who feels like a Practice Squad candidate given the way he has played in training camp.  This leaves Chesley, Davontae Harris, and Tony McRae on the Roster without a spot.   

S: Keeping 4, Bates, Shawn Williams, Fejedelem, and Wilson.  Henderson gets a PS slot with Lippett, Cox, and Tyree Kinnel on the outside looking in.

LB: Keeping 5, Vigil, Pratt, Preston Brown, Jordan Evans, and Deshaun Davis.  Jefferson looks like a lost cause, Nickerson does not have the athleticism to be on an NFL Roster...this leaves Noah Dawkins, Curt Akins, and Sterling Sheffield.

DE: Keeping 5, Dunlap, Hubbard, Lawson, Jordan Willis, and Wynn.  The only other guys are Ringo, and Immanuel Turner and neither of these guys seem like NFL guys.

DT: Keeping 5....Atkins, Billings, Brown, Glasgow, and Wren.  Tupou seems like a PS guy.

Linebackers are super young, Pratt looks like a find in camp but there is a lot of risk.  I like the make up of the DE and DT squad, hopefully Brown can bounce back and be the guys we think he can be.  The DB group also looks strong and reasonably deep....the LBers will make or break us. Adding this up, 6 CBs, 4 Safeties, 5 LBs, 5 DEs, and 5 DTs gives us 25.

Specialists 1 K, 1 Punter, and 1 LS....

24 on Offense, 25 on Defense, and 3 for Specialists gives us 52 players, scary that things are so tight here....

 

 

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What a great write up.  Our defense may have been the worst in the league last year.  But looking at our roster on offense as you laid it out, considering the two most important (arguably) players are already hurt, the offense could exceed the D this year in looking like absolute shit on the field.  

And I wholeheartedly agree on 6 game IR for AJ.  Our schedule early includes the Seahawks, Niners, Steelers, and the Ravens.  Going to be challenging with or without AJ, so let him get totally right for later in the season as we Drive For Five! (wins).

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Redmond is suspended and will not take up a roster spot pushing that decision off. 

Ross’s and Green’s injury problems cloud the group because you need active game day WR for special teams.  3 look like practice squad but at least At least 1 makes 53 and Game day due to special teams.     I think they keep 7.  2 of the 3 PS guys could make if they IR Green to return later.  You can’t put Ross or Green on teams and you are running a risk putting both of their direct back up’s out there. 

I think Jonah Williams gets the PUP pushing that decision off. 

 

Offensive line is the problem.   Does this group develop or not?    Skill guys seem upper end WITH good health.   

Defense.  Really don’t know.  They sucked last year.  They have a lot of individual names that seem like the unit should be way better.   Really don’t know. 

 

 

 

 

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Also two of those guys that are locks to make this roster were on the street before the Bengals called them (Jerry and Smith).  They need to do something, I agree with Amphar, they have the skill position guys to make a competitive team but a shocking lack of depth on the Oline (I know losing Williams hurts but the team had to know that Boling was considering retirement, if that came as a surprise they need to communicate better with their players) and inexperience at the LB corp could keep them from performing this year. 

Get on the horn, trade some guys or draft picks or something and get some quality Olinemen.  One injury at Center or Tackle screws the entire season, cannot start the year like that.

 

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Nice writeup. I can't say I've paid a lot of attention to what the team did over the offseason, and it doesn't appear that I missed much. I saw our first round pick went down (of course) and AJ went down (of course) and we re-signed Moobs (JFC stahp!). But now I have to admit to a morbid curiosity as to just how bad things are going to get this season.

Anyhow, I'm handling commish duties in the fantasy league this year so if anyone wants to join let me know in the fantasy board thread or pm me.

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22 hours ago, HoosierCat said:

Nice writeup. I can't say I've paid a lot of attention to what the team did over the offseason, and it doesn't appear that I missed much. I saw our first round pick went down (of course) and AJ went down (of course) and we re-signed Moobs (JFC stahp!). But now I have to admit to a morbid curiosity as to just how bad things are going to get this season.

Anyhow, I'm handling commish duties in the fantasy league this year so if anyone wants to join let me know in the fantasy board thread or pm me.

Nice to see you around Hoosier!

 

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Thanks guys. Just doing my par to keep the fantasy league alive. It looks like everyone from last year is back in, except of course Billy. So if anyone is up for it this year, let me know and I’ll figure out how to send an invite...

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Isn't both Skyline out as well ??  I think we need two teams unless we are rolling with 10 this year.

I could be wrong...

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Rodney Anderson activated.   Removes pup possibility.   

Keeping 4 backs or is one in trouble? 

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Thanks for stepping up to run the league Hoosier, and good to see you back.  I’ll be flexing some monumental fantasy football skills, look out whoever finished 8th last year, I’m coming after you!

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On 8/7/2019 at 12:31 PM, ArmyBengal said:

Isn't both Skyline out as well ??  I think we need two teams unless we are rolling with 10 this year.

I could be wrong...

He says he and missus are still in, just didn’t have the time to be the boss.

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Well, for better or worse, here it is.

QUARTERBACKS (3)

Andy Dalton (9), Ryan Finley (R), Jake Dolegala (R).

OFFENSIVE LINE (8)

L-RT Andre Smith (11), LT Cordy Glenn (8), RT Bobby Hart (5), RG John Miller (5), G-C Trey Hopkins (4), C Billy Price (2), G-C Michael Jordan (R), O’Shea Dugas (R).

WIDE RECEIVERS (7)

A.J. Green (9), Tyler Boyd (4), Alex Erickson (4), John Ross III (3), Josh Malone (3), Auden Tate (2), Damion Willis (R).

RUNNING BACKS (3)

Giovani Bernard (7), Joe Mixon (3), Trayveon Williams (R).

TIGHT ENDS (4)

Tyler Eifert (7), C.J. Uzomah (5), Cethan Carter (3), Drew Sample (R)

DEFENSIVE LINE (11)

LE Carlos Dunlap (10), T Geno Atkins (10), E-T Kerry Wynn (6), NT Andrew Billings (4), E Jordan Willis (3), E Carl Lawson (3), DT Ryan Glasgow (3), NT Josh Tupou (3), RE Sam Hubbard (2), E Andrew Brown (1), T Renell Wren (R).

LINEBACKERS (5)

MLB Preston Brown (6), SAM Nick Vigil (4), WILL Jordan Evans (3), MLB Hardy Nickerson (3), MLB Germaine Pratt (R).

SECONDARY (9)

CB Dre Kirkpatrick (8), S Shawn Williams (7), CB B.W. Webb (6), CB William Jackson III (4), S Clayton Fejedelem (4), CB Tony McRae (3), S Brandon Wilson (3), CB Darius Phillips (2), S Jessie Bates III (2).

SPECIALISTS (3)

P Kevin Huber (11), LS Clark Harris (11), K Randy Bullock (8).

Also...

Perone is a power back, Cooper a crappy WR but star PR.

Malone and Nickerson cut to make room.

 

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I doubt anyone will fuss about losing Nickerson.  I can't imagine the plan is to roll into Seattle with 4 linebackers though.

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Not sure there is a plan....you can.not.start a season with 4 lbs and 8 total olinemen.....

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Again how bad do you have to be when you can’t make this roster as a linebacker. That speaks volumes of Nickerson.

Really quite surprised they let Malone go and kept Tate, even though I’m big on Tate. Cooper is the speed replacement I assume.

I liked Perine coming out of college but he’s always hurt.

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Here’s the PS.

  • TE Moritz Böhringer (first-year player, Aalen [Germany])
  • CB Anthony Chesley (rookie, Coastal Carolina)
  • LB Noah Dawkins (rookie, The Citadel)
  • HB Jordan Ellis (rookie, Virginia)
  • TE Jordan Franks (second-year player, Central Florida)
  • S Trayvon Henderson (second-year player, Hawaii)
  • WR Stanley Morgan (rookie, Nebraska)
  • TE Mason Schreck (third-year player, Buffalo)
  • G Keaton Sutherland (rookie, Texas A&M)

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Degenerative twitter says they cut John Jerry but are putting him on the 53.  The kept Dugas originally, but only so they could IR him and immediately add Jerry.  Rest of the league playing checkers, Mike Brown playing 4 dimensional chess.  

“Dehner” auto-corrects to degenerative, which I accept.

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they simply cannot be serious about going into the season with 4 linebackers, 1 of whom is a rookie and the other three have extensive injury history

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4 hours ago, TJJackson said:

they simply cannot be serious about going into the season with 4 linebackers, 1 of whom is a rookie and the other three have extensive injury history

We’re switching to a base 4-0-7.

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