HoosierCat Posted February 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Attention FA-Mart shoppers! We have a Blue Light Special in the Redemption Department! Former first round selection Matt Elam now available at rock-bottom price! Comes complete with poor on-field performance, multiple injury issues, and now sizzling hot criminal activity! Quote Ravens safety Matt Elam was arrested Saturday evening after police say he was speeding recklessly through Miami Beach in a Range Rover with an armed passenger and a Gucci book bag with marijuana, cash and jewelry. officers were patrolling Miami Beach about 7:15 p.m. Saturday when they saw Elam speeding in the dark blue Range Rover, swerving in and out of lanes and screeching his tires, police wrote in charging documents. The officers tried to pull him over, they wrote, and Elam continued to speed before stopping after several blocks. Two passengers, identified by police as Fritz Narcisse, 22, and Abdud Narcisse, 23, were seen extinguishing a marijuana cigarette in the back seat, police wrote. Another passenger, Calvin Stewart, Jr., 28, was ordered out of the front passenger seat and a loaded 9 mm pistol fell from his waistband, police wrote. Police searched the car and found on the floor of the driver seat the Gucci book bag with 126.21 grams of loose marijuana or about 4.4 ounces, also six Oxycodone pills, $947 in cash, a Rolex, and gold-colored chain necklace and bracelet with white stones, officers wrote. The Range Rover was towed away. If you're a Redeemer, don't miss this one-of-a-kind opportunity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 hour ago, HoosierCat said: Attention FA-Mart shoppers! We have a Blue Light Special in the Redemption Department! Former first round selection Matt Elam now available at rock-bottom price! Comes complete with poor on-field performance, multiple injury issues, and now sizzling hot criminal activity! If you're a Redeemer, don't miss this one-of-a-kind opportunity! Just kids out having a little fun. Those cops overreacted. Also, the Jets just cut 11 year starter Nick Mangold. Former Buckeye, sufficiently diminished by a full NFL career but still looking for one last payday. Has Bengal stopgap signing written all over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 Mothereffer, the Browns just cut Baby Hawk. So now we can sign him, Nick Mangled, Moobs, and anyone else looking for that last quick payday. Yeeha! Free Agency baby!! PS - If they lose Zeitler and Whit, they better get Andre or someone better in here. Dalton will shit his pants if he lines up on day one with Fisher and Boling at guards, and Ogbuehi and Winston at the tackles. Seriously, no way. If I were his agent I'd have him faking a hamstring injury so fast it'd make Mike's head spin. And it wouldn't even be to protect my investment/contract money. It would just be to protect Dalton's life and health. He'll get killed if Mike and Katie don't do something, and I don't mean spend another first round pick on a tackle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, COB said: Mothereffer, the Browns just cut Baby Hawk. So now we can sign him, Nick Mangled, Moobs, and anyone else looking for that last quick payday. Yeeha! Free Agency baby!! PS - If they lose Zeitler and Whit, they better get Andre or someone better in here. Dalton will shit his pants if he lines up on day one with Fisher and Boling at guards, and Ogbuehi and Winston at the tackles. Seriously, no way. If I were his agent I'd have him faking a hamstring injury so fast it'd make Mike's head spin. And it wouldn't even be to protect my investment/contract money. It would just be to protect Dalton's life and health. He'll get killed if Mike and Katie don't do something, and I don't mean spend another first round pick on a tackle. Marvin said he is not worried at all about the O-line! Yup that's the coach of this team....., Pathetic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 hours ago, COB said: Mothereffer, the Browns just cut Baby Hawk. YES! Bring back my favorite play, "Go Long to Frodo"!!! 2 hours ago, COB said: PS - If they lose Zeitler and Whit, they better get Andre or someone better in here. Dalton will shit his pants if he lines up on day one with Fisher and Boling at guards, and Ogbuehi and Winston at the tackles. Seriously, no way. If I were his agent I'd have him faking a hamstring injury so fast it'd make Mike's head spin. Remember Palmer's elbow injury and how he milked that to sit out a season after getting shellacked for the first 3 or 4 games? To this day I remain convinced he just didn't want t go back out there behind that awful line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 5 hours ago, volcom69 said: Marvin said he is not worried at all about the O-line! Yup that's the coach of this team....., Pathetic! this is so idiotic, it hardly merits a response. fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 $8 million/year is perfectly do-able. Not that they will, of course. Funny how other teams can afford it but not us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 They have to suck it up and risk future cap dollars for the o-line. Why the hell would you draft a first round guard then balk at paying top guard money for a player you predicted would be a top guard? Both Yanda and Decastro carry cap hits in the 9-11 mil range. IF they lose Zeitler it better be something crazy like 14-17 mil a season. Then you risk future cap dollars for sure on Whit. If there's one guy you push money into the future it would be Whit. Then you probably can get Moobs back reasonably. Then you play your best 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 They should, but there's no sign they will. Hobs was peddling the usual BS in the linked column above, that the team only has about $15 million to spend on Whit, KZ, Dre and Rex combined. At this point I would guess that Dre is the most likely to return, simply because they will pay for CBs. Rex I give a slight chance only because the RB draft class is so rich that the FA RB market should be modest (and thus affordable) but again, if he gets a shot at starting elsewhere I think he's gone. The problem with Whit and Dre is that the draft is a barren wasteland at OL this year. That's likely to send the FA oline market into the stratosphere. Under the team's usual operating assumptions, Zeitler is as good as gone, and they could be outbid for Whit's services. I think the odds are still in favor of him re-signing but I wouldn't put it any higher than 60/40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 43 million in cap space for what? No franchise tag to at least keep one of there big free agents, are you kidding me! How you let a top 5 guard walk away from this team is beyond me. No it hasn't happened yet, but it sure looks like it's going to be a miserable free agency! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Who the hell knows where Hobs gets his numbers or how he puts them together? Just as a thought they need to change out Hobson or compliment him with a younger writer IF they really ever want to change the perception of the franchise. Whit, Dre, and KZ weren't cheap last year. They hit last year's cap for a combined 23.5. lol, 15 mil....wtf? Without cap tricks you could probably extend all 3 for about 30/32 mil in cap. Completely doable. I think they should go ahead a do cap tricks for Whit extension. So they could easyily get all 3 for about 26/27 cap room combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I bet Hobson didn't clear out his standard response or his head because 15 mil is about the cap room used to sign LaFell, Iloka, and Pac Man last year, lol. Ugh, how could anyone buy 15 mil? They had a series of 1 year deals that cost them 23.5 mil with the current big 3 FAs. Signed Pac, Iloka, and Lafell for another 15 mil in cap that year. Then extended Williams and Gio for about 5 mil in cap last year. Plus Dansby. This is from Cincinnati.com last year, lol: The Bengals didn’t quite double down, but they got close. At the dawn of free agency, the Bengals initially worked off a $15 million number to which they initially felt they could commit. It didn’t take long before Brown and the organization decided they would go beyond that. the bengals were projected about 38 mil under last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 It never fails to amaze and amuse me how hard the Bengals work to tamp down interest and excitement. Free agency? Woah, Nelly, don't get too excited. All those third-string bench-warmers and taxi squad players don't come cheap, and we'll need an extra-large rookie pool this year to sign all 11 of those draft picks! And if history is any guide, half of them will get hurt so we'll need an injury reserve to dumpster dive for replacements! Oh, and don't forget we need to give a big extension to that TE who misses half the season every year, and we have to save up some money for Boyd's big second deal in 2019! By the time you figure all that, we've got about $29 and a couple Golden Corral coupons (hey, you ever see a visiting player eat? The Corral is the only way to go!). So don't get your hopes up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 33 minutes ago, HoosierCat said: we'll need an extra-large rookie pool this year The rookie pool at a salary cap strategy meeting at PBS: "Look at me. Look at me. I'm the captain now." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 The Flesh Zeppelin LOVES Golden Corral. Where does he sign? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 20 hours ago, HoosierCat said: It never fails to amaze and amuse me how hard the Bengals work to tamp down interest and excitement. Free agency? Woah, Nelly, don't get too excited. All those third-string bench-warmers and taxi squad players don't come cheap, and we'll need an extra-large rookie pool this year to sign all 11 of those draft picks! And if history is any guide, half of them will get hurt so we'll need an injury reserve to dumpster dive for replacements! Oh, and don't forget we need to give a big extension to that TE who misses half the season every year, and we have to save up some money for Boyd's big second deal in 2019! By the time you figure all that, we've got about $29 and a couple Golden Corral coupons (hey, you ever see a visiting player eat? The Corral is the only way to go!). So don't get your hopes up! yeah just another thing on a long list of what they don't get. It's just a simple thing that could do them huge wonders. Plan your offseason internally. Fans desires should not ever come into play. However, publically don't talk about what you can't do (which is what they do ALL the time). Then even IF they aren't going to sign one "Big" free agent they should still stoke the coals the week leading up to it so the fan could have something just to talk about. Instead they tamp it down likes it a pagan religion. Nope, don't get excited about this 40 mil dollar cap room it's goes to all these places blah, blah, blah. Look at the quote from last year that states the same 15 mil. That was clearly not remotely accurate or had some Bengal math behind it. Why even let that become public? Until they got a strong and deep waiting list to sell out PBS each and every season they need to be working every angle on flipping to a positive perception through out their TV market. Due to the streak of winning season more and more people have bought into the way they do things. Now they have to get good at being positive instead of letting Hobson (the same voice for years) run out his negative filled babble. It also doesn't help that the head coach is guaranteed to take an obvious weak spot and deny it just to be an asshole to the media and never pass on a chance to tell them what they think they know they really don't but in reality they do. To say the line isn't a concern is just bullshit. Yeah a struggling unit last year might lose it's 2 best players. Yep, no concern there. Dumb the way they handle things. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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COB Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 The Rookie Pool has spent the off-season working out at Ignition OHIO, he's juiced out of his mind, of course he's on hgh, and word is his workouts make Luke Kuechly hang his head in shame. The Rookie Pool is stronger than ever, fit beyond belief, and ready to kick major ass at PBS when the time comes. He's also been hanging out at the casino making trouble, and he carries a gun. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Franchise tag deadline has passed. Here's who got hit: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000788559/article/franchise-tag-roundup-who-has-been-designated Needless to say, no Bengal was tagged. For the record, I think not tagging Whit was a mistake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 I would say the mistake was with Zeitler. I can't understand the concept of using a 1st round pick on a guy that lives up to the draft position and then you let him walk. Why ?? Because you don't believe OG's should make WR/CB type of coin. Screw "taking care of your own" just let him walk and wait for a comp pick in the 3rd round (hopefully) the following season. Why bother EVER using a first round pick on a player that plays a position you don't value enough to pay when the time comes ?? I. HATE. THIS. TEAM. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Yeah, that too, Army. Part of the problem I think is that the FO is stuck in a past where cap increases were way smaller. Now it goes up $10 million a year. Salary inflation was inevitable. But they still have an obsolete concept of value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GapControl Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 On 3/1/2017 at 2:07 AM, volcom69 said: 43 million in cap space for what? No franchise tag to at least keep one of there big free agents, are you kidding me! How you let a top 5 guard walk away from this team is beyond me. No it hasn't happened yet, but it sure looks like it's going to be a miserable free agency! Boling is here because Steinbach was too expensive. Now Boling is too expensive to cut, so he plays LG no matter what. A. Smith and Ogbuehi were too expensive to keep together so now Fisher is the RT. Doesn't matter if he sucks at it or not. C ? Anyone can do it! They don't need big money! Bodine is here. LT ? Well Whit is old and expensive so Ogbuehi has to play. But he sucks. No matter! Whit was unaffordable! Hows that dumpster fire logic make you feel? ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 This day was coming. The next generation of line was always going to be in question. Dumpster fire for sure because the answers can't be seen and nobody will believe the answers until they see steady performance. Much like coming off 2008 the line is in a critical state and they transformed that quickly into years of top line play. 1. Boling had nothing to do with Stein. It's important to remember that today because they face similar problems. Whit was the future LG. Levi was the future LT. That all changed in 2008 when Levi's knee finally gave way. Then Moobs is drafted and the head ache that was. Whit an unassuming solution to LT became a GREAT LT. Moobs destined to bust saved his career while he was with Bengals and became top half RT. (Although I argue he has never ever played to the level of his talent, he could have been the best ever LT or RT), Oooogie inspires confidence in nothing unless you need to give up a sack. Fisher? I still believe he will be RG. Bodine improved but he's only going to below average Center. Boling (IMO) is solid as can be and will return to that level once healed. Lot of problems for sure. But like most things in an offensive lineman's life people only talk about you when things are fucked up. As soon as it's fixed nobody notices or gives credit. Hopefully that's the case again very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Well, that should put all our concerns about the oline to rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 32 minutes ago, HoosierCat said: Great googly moogly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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