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This Cleveland team is so bad. They get a bit of momentum and just piss it away. McCown is just a target in the pocket.

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COB    274

I did not watch the game, but I question the QB change.  The first kid hadn't even thrown a pick, I think.  McCown went in and immediately pitched one to the other team, a long and honored Browns tradition.  

The Browns 2-0-16 season continues!  Gonna wreck some top draft picks career next year for sure!  

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COB    274

I'll excerpt three paragraphs below from the article on pft that Hoosier cited in the post previous to this one.  The paragraphs are a quote from Jason LaCanfora of CBS Sports.  

Three delicious, fall down laughing, sweet, wonderful paragraphs:

 

According to Jason La Canfora of CBSSports.com, Horton’s status and Jackson’s decision to bench rookie quarterback Cody Kessler last week have led to “heightened tension” within the Browns organization.

There’s also mention that owner Jimmy Haslam and his wife Dee have become increasingly hands-on with the operation, including a number of non-football departments reporting directly to them.

“You basically have a husband and wife in charge of various areas they don’t really understand — football, coaching, scouting, analytics, ticketing, marketing,” a team source told La Canfora. “And that’s the way they want it.”

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COB    274

I wonder what it's like being a fan of a team who's owner starts to operate the team like it's a mom and pop operation.  Must be tough. 

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HoosierCat    356

Well, it worked real good for the Bengals in the 1990s... /sarcasm

Oh, and just to follow up on the item above, now we get this:

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Last week, Browns coach Hue Jackson benched quarterback Cody Kessler during a loss to the Ravens. This week, Jackson seems to be second-guessing that decision.

“Cody has done some good things, too,” Jackson said, via Cleveland.com. “Maybe we’ve been a little too harsh on him that way. He’s made some jumps in some areas.

Translation: mom 'n' pop weren't happy with Hue for benching Kessler. I'm increasingly of the opinion that Hue will be gone in January.

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COB    274

From Haslem's wiki page:

 

In April 2013, the FBI executed a search warrant and affidavit detailing a five-year fraud scheme by the Pilot Flying J chain. The company paid restitution to customers and agreed to pay a $92 million penalty pursuant to a Criminal Enforcement Agreement.[8]

 

Now someone please explain to me:

1.  What is a "Criminal Enforcement Agreement"?  I was a prosecutor for 7 years, in that time I prosecuted hundreds of cases, including over 100 jury trials.  I have never heard of a "Criminal Enforcement Agreement." 

2.  How can you pay 92 million dollars for a crime for which you have never even been indicted?  I understand fines, court costs, restitution, reimbursements.  All those are assessed as part of a penalty for a crime once you are convicted.  This dude was never even indicted.  He was not the subject of a civil action from a citizen, or a forfeiture action from the government.  Just what legal mechanism prompted him to pay 92 million dollars to the government?

3.  I read the transcript of the tape the FBI had of Haslam talking about the fraud scheme.  He was laughing about it, he called it some obscene name, something like the "fuck 'em over program,"  In a country where you can catch a bullet for not having a front license plate, where is the indictment for a multi-million dollar scheme that defrauded small businesses of millions of dollars?  

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HoosierCat    356

Well, teh google isn't super-helpful in this case, but apparently a "criminal enforcement agreement" is a relatively recent development modeled on the kind of enforcement agreements you might see between a regulatory agency (like the EPA) and a company that violated that agency's regulations. There's a little bit of info in this wsj story.

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The agreement doesn't end the probe that has haunted Pilot since agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Internal Revenue Service descended on its headquarters in April 2013, carrying off computers and documents.

As part of the pact, the company agrees "to cooperate fully and actively" with federal law enforcement "in any and all matters relating to its investigation of fraudulent conduct involving the sale of diesel fuel," according to the agreement. This includes disclosing "truthfully and completely" any activities of its present and former officers and employees that might be related to the fraud, the agreement states.

Pilot won't be prosecuted as long as it complies with the terms of the agreement.

Lisa Kern Griffin, a Duke University law professor who has written about such agreements, said "it's pretty standard not to exempt prosecution" for individuals in the company and "it's entirely possible that individuals will get charged" after such an agreement.

If the corporation cooperates fully with prosecutors, it could "diminish the government's interest in pursuing individual prosecutions," but such cooperation often gives prosecutors new information that helps them build further cases. "It can cut the other way," she said.

Despite those last two paragraphs, it sounds to me mostly like, if you're a big corporation and/or super-wealthy guy, you can pay to make criminal charges go away. Just don't piss them off again. Welcome to America.

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COB    274
1 hour ago, HoosierCat said:

. I'm increasingly of the opinion that Hue will be gone in January.

If so, time to hire him as our new head coach.  Marvin can stick around in whatever capacity he wants.  I'd take him as defacto DC right now.  Hue as head coach would pretty much be our OC anyway.  

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HoosierCat    356

Gotta admire a team with cap space that isn't afraid to use it.

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HoosierCat    356

Interesting...now reports are that Cleveland is shopping Osweiler and is willing to eat at least half of his $16 million cap hit if a team will give them a 2018 third...thinking is they need it for a package to give to NE for Garappolo.

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COB    274

Damn, Cleveland's baseball front office is really going all in.  Let's hope they can find a good left handed middle reliever to round out that staff.

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COB    274

I'll tell you who should get Ossweiler and let Truck Stop Dumb Fuck pay half his salary - John Elway.

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ArmyBengal    227

I was thinking the same thing about Denver.  How interesting would that scenario be ??

The Browns ??  Well, they are certainly making moves, but what else are you going to do when you have 100 million to spend ??

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They grabbed him on his value.  I see the Bengals looking up in the standings at the Browns come the end of the season.

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ArmyBengal    227

The Browns still have to make it all work which has been no easy task for that shitheap.  Much of this awesomeness requires them to hit on all moves. Color me skeptical.

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HoosierCat    356

Memo from the Stuff Hollywood Screenewriters Would Reject Because It was Too Unbelievable to be True Dept: the Cleveland Browns stadium is literally a gigantic dumpster fire waiting to happen:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/07/20/browns-stadium-may-be-a-fire-hazard/

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COB    274
8 hours ago, HoosierCat said:

Memo from the Stuff Hollywood Screenewriters Would Reject Because It was Too Unbelievable to be True Dept: the Cleveland Browns stadium is literally a gigantic dumpster fire waiting to happen:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/07/20/browns-stadium-may-be-a-fire-hazard/

True story - last time I used my sister's season tix to go to that stadium was 2000.  Saw the Ravens destroy them.  Cleveland never got past the 50 yard line the whole game.  Their liquored-up fans didn't even give a shit, just like they wouldn't care if that place went up in flames.  They welcome any excuse to riot and engage in violent and drunken civil disobedience.  Remember the beer bottle thunderstorm those refs had to endure?  How about blow up disco records on dime beer night at a tribe game in Cleveland Stadium?  They're crazy.  That stadium turning into an inferno would be like Christmas to them.

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And to think back in the '60's I was down with the Browns. Could it be this led to my later indiscretions in life?

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HoosierCat    356
On 7/22/2017 at 0:22 PM, BengalszoneBilly said:

And to think back in the '60's I was down with the Browns. Could it be this led to my later indiscretions in life?

Absolutely. I think it's safe to blame the Browns for everything.

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