TJJackson Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 where does it say what the conditional pick is....I see it can be a 1, but I am more interested on how low it can go (as I am assuming for now that we will get the low end)Who caresThanks for asking, moron - I care.oh, and by the way, how is your bed-buddy Ochodroppo doing this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princeton Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I just don't have hate for the guy, so I wish him the best (unless and until the Bengals and Raiders are contending for the same playoff spot).word. I've always liked Hue, too-- especially now! I can't wait until Hue tells Carson that he's going to pick up 85 on waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 And from Mort mortreport Chris Mortensen: Conditional pick in 2013 is 1st rounder if Raiders win 1 playoff game or it's a 2nd rounder. Still get the 1st rounder next April.That's a pretty high bar but it's still a great trade since it's at least a 2nd. I wonder if winning a playoff game refers to both 2011 and 2012? Not that he has to do it twice but does he have two yrs to attain this lofty goal?I think Carson is in the perfect sitution for him in Oakland. Much better than Seattle. If he flops there, he's done. No more excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I wonder what Carson has to do in order to get that 2013 1st rd pick and if he falls short, what do we get? Either way it's a good deal for usMy guess would be playoffs or a playoff win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I think Carson is in the perfect sitution for him in Oakland. Much better than Seattle. If he flops there, he's done. No more excusesAbsolutely. The AFC West is ripe for carving up. Denver and KC are train wrecks and the Chargers are the league's champion choke artists. Compared to what he's used to facing in Pittsburgh and Baltimore, that's a cakewalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 It's a playoff win. We now know that much. We've now hit 100 pages. Where's my prize? Show me the money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 It's a playoff win. We now know that muchCongrats on the page 100 post Sea Ray!As for the playoff win. F*ck 'em. I'd rather see Palmer fail and get an early 2nd rounder.Am I being childish? Yep. I don't care. F*ck Carson Palmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 It's a playoff win. We now know that much. We've now hit 100 pages. Where's my prize? Show me the money! Woo-Hoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 It would be better for the Bengals if the wheels fall off for the Raiders than if they win a playoff game.A late 1st rounder and an early 2nd rounder are not all that different value wise... plus if the Raiders implode this season, the Bengals can get an early 1st round pick in 2012.It's official. I hate the Raiders. Hope they finish 4-12! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 It's a playoff win. We now know that much. We've now hit 100 pages. Where's my prize? Show me the money! Ain't that the way? I've written about 20 pages of this thread myself but when the time comes to hand out the candy peanuts I'm nowhere to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I've written about 20 pages of this thread myselfIs there an easy way to find out who the biggest contributers to this thread are? I'm betting it's a 3-way race between you, myself, and Hoosier. Hokie might be up there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 PFT just pointed out that the Raiders 3 of their 2012 draft picks on QBs. Palmer was a 1st rounder, Pryor was a 3rd rounder, and Campbell was a 4th rounder.Geesh. Think Palmer will be demanding a trade next off-season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Ruthless, cruel, delicious trade rape. Oh baby.Derek, if you click on the number of thread replies from the Bengals forum page, it'll display the number of posts for each contributor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 It's a playoff win. We now know that much. We've now hit 100 pages. Where's my prize? Show me the money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Sweet deal wish we could have gotten a player too,I think having hue on the raiders helped alot and season supposed be honoring Al a old school football figure.How pissed are you if you're a Raiders fan? Talk about mortgaging your future. You get a decidedly average QB in exchange for your only valuable draft pick next year?Al Davis lives on. As a Raiders fan I'd try and trust in Hue,He's been the only good thing about that team for a very long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 So is this deal official?If so, can you show me where to go to read it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I wonder what Raider fans are saying about this raping at the hands of Mike Brown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I wonder what Raider fans are saying about this raping at the hands of Mike Brown?Man that old dude has soft hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 More for the "Headlines You Never Thought You Would Read" file:Bengals owner Mike Brown: Genius or super genius?League GMs surprised by Bengals' bounty for Palmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I wonder what Raider fans are saying about this raping at the hands of Mike Brown? One of my employees, a Raider fan, has for several months been giving me a very hard time about Carson Palmer being a beat up quitter and a has been. He's in shock right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Ok, not to piss on the parade but this is not a master stroke of genius or some finely executed plan that was hatched long ago.This is a blind squirrel finding a nut. A very big, tasty, delicious nut but a nut nonetheless. A blind squirrel nonetheless.NO ONE could have predicted that Jason Campbell, or any other starting QB for a slightly better than average team, with no aspirations on taking Andrew Luck, would have gone down the weekend before the trade deadline. No way.NO ONE could have anticipated that a team with no Andrew Luck aspirations would be willing to pay the SoP price (way past what Palmer is worth, BTW) to acquire Palmer.So, before you all bow down to kiss the Ivy League educated back end of crusty 'ol Mike, please keep this in mind that this is simply dumb luck. Dumb luck, wrapped in incompetence and stubbornness, that finally found a big enough, tasty enough nut. Thank you Mike Brown for accepting the enormous, gigantic nut you've stumbled upon, and accepting the nut for your shiny, broke-down, quitter of a former starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPimp Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Al Davis wouldn't have given up that much.....Don't credit Mike Brown too much..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Al Davis wouldn't have given up that much.....Exactly. The Bengals caught them in flux after Davis's death before they could settle in with a new GM... when they're the most vulnerable to doing something insane.I give Mikey nearly ALL the credit right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Mike Zimmer:Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer told NFL Network's Albert Breer he was happy for Palmer -- but that the current Bengals were unaffected by the Palmer situation.“I like Carson," said Zimmer. "This is a good deal for him, he gets the chance to get out there with Hue, he’ll know the offense. But with our team, it hasn’t been holding over us in any way. Really, he hasn’t been here and the young quarterback, it’s his team now. I don’t think the players care much about about the picks, but that’s good for the organization, too."The organization is basically getting the picks for nothing.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I feel like we'll end up with a weak trade though. Of course we will......because the Bngals don't have a F*king GM who could pull off a decent trade.Points. Laughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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