TJJackson Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Can't wait to see this guy on defense....was an absolute one man wrecking crew when healthy at Georgia Techhttp://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=5942 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengal4life Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Even though this move doesn't put any more experience into the Backer position I think he could accent the position well once he learns it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WretchedOne Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Can't wait to see this guy on defense....was an absolute one man wrecking crew when healthy at Georgia Techhttp://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=5942I of course, am extremely excited about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Can't wait to see this guy on defense.......if he can make the roster. With Brooks, Nicholson, Landon, Caleb, Jeanty and a draft pick, six of what will probably be about eight LB spots are already spoken for -- and there's still the Pollack and Thurman question marks, as well as Andre Frazier, floating around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WretchedOne Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Can't wait to see this guy on defense.......if he can make the roster. With Brooks, Nicholson, Landon, Caleb, Jeanty and a draft pick, six of what will probably be about eight LB spots are already spoken for -- and there's still the Pollack and Thurman question marks, as well as Andre Frazier, floating around.They are not "on the roster." Both are RFAs I believe.It's really: HendersonBrooksJeantyFraizerNicholsonOthers:OdellNot Currently Under contractLandonCalebInjuredDavid Pollack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Not Currently Under contractLandonCalebThey are effectively under contract. As an RFA, you can either sign your tender and play under that, work out a long-term deal, or spend your Sundays this fall raking leaves and watching the NFL on TV. Both will be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPappaw Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Can't wait to see this guy on defense....was an absolute one man wrecking crew when healthy at Georgia Techhttp://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=5942I agree!!! I really like the energy and playmaking that he brings each play. I thought he would have been a better pick than Frostee -- still have to wait and see.I think that Jason Berryman, who now playing in Europe is also playing LB. Looks to me like the Bengals are still searching for someone a LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuffMan Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 wonder if this means Pollack moves back to DE despite being injured, having another DE converted to OLB with Jeanty and Henderson already doing that seems excessivewonder if this means Pollack moves back to DE despite being injured, having another DE converted to OLB with Jeanty, Berryman, and Henderson already doing that seems excessive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I doubt Berryman enters the equation. If he does well in NFLE and camp he's likely PS material.DE for Pollack makes some sense as a way to ease him back in, but the roster is already tight there, too, with Geathers, Justin and Rucker all apparently locks, plus the two DE/DT swingers, B-rob and Fanene. They have a hole at DT now with S. Smith gone and I suppose they could just move Fanene to DT full time (ugh) and open a spot for a DE...bit they also look to be likely to take a d-lineman at some point in the 1-4 round range, which would crunch things even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Now that is a move that makes sense for the Bengals to try. Good thought by the coaching staff, and plenty of time for Henderson to get used to the position during off-season camps etc. Well worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinneymulleT Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 What was henderson's 40-shuttle times, I know he was hurt or something? Can this guy play backer? Wow. That would be fkg cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengal4life Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Don't quote me but I think his 40 was around a 4.7 something. And I have no clue about his shuttle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Let him go on the practice squad for another year while he learns the LB position and see what he can do in 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Let him go on the practice squad for another year while he learns the LB position and see what he can do in 2008. I think it's more likely that Henderson makes the roster by assuming the special team role opened up by the departed Marcus Wilkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WretchedOne Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Eric didn't work out at last years combine, but he said he had been clocked at 4.68 while training for the combine.Not bad for a 6-2/265 dude, might be a little quicker shedding some weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Don't quote me but I think his 40 was around a 4.7 something. And I have no clue about his shuttle.Yeah, it was a 4.75. He's lost some weight, so he might be a bit faster now, but Jeanty ran a 4.62... and he's not known for his speed. Henderson will have to get a good pit quicker to be a 2-down SSLB like the article indicates.Not to burst any bubbles - and I've been wrong before (namely the aforementioned Jeanty), but I doubt he ever amounts to the stud starter that so many people were clamouring about when he was signed. 32 teams didn't view him as worthy of a draft pick, and he couldn't crack the active roster for the Bengals in a year riddled with injuries.Maybe he is made to be a SSLB and will find success, but I'm leaning toward doubting it. He was a skilled college DE, but the NFL is a different animal. I guess I just have a hard time believing that a guy who can't get signed off of a practice squad warrants the level of excitement this forum brings. Call it the Fanene effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I guess I just have a hard time believing that a guy who can't get signed off of a practice squad warrants the level of excitement this forum brings.Remember, getting signed off a PS means a team has to put you on its active roster, which makes them fairly rare events to begin with. As for the "level of excitement" around here, hey, no one had said boo about Eric in months -- until Hobson whipped up one of his patented "the next savior is already on the team" pieces. Expect similar opuses (opi?) about Nicholson, Rucker, Brazell and all our draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The PatternMaster Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 All we need is an experienced lb to lead our young guys, I hope that if Edgerton Hartwell is healthy we would bring him in for a look-see.I agree that Henderson's best shot of seeing any action comes from being a special teams monster, I hope these young guys can get over their ego and embrace whatever role the coaches give them. I like Henderson and I hope he has success, I wish him the best luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I guess I just have a hard time believing that a guy who can't get signed off of a practice squad warrants the level of excitement this forum brings. Call it the Fanene effect. I can speak only for myself, but I think it's fair to assume that Henderson can fill Marcus Wilkins shoes by making the roster as a special teams player. The bottom of the roster always churns, right? And if Henderson can make the team as a special teamer it might buy him enough time to learn a LB or designated pass rush role. As for the Fanene effect, much of the blame has to go to writers who make quick comparisons to Adalius Thomas while ignoring how long it took before Thomas actually emerged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I said boo (and more) about Henderson quite a bit a year ago, and on occasion since then, particularly when Fanene was coming off IR and I had hoped he'd remain on IR and Henderson would be brought upI know the Wretched One had brought him up a few times as well.He and Wilkerson have never been off my radar since they signed as UDCFAs in consecutive years.The reason the other teams passed is because he was injured and couldn't really play last year, and had a considerable injury history to boot. That and 6'2 is generally considered short for a NFL DEI honestly do see him making the roster this year and getting a lot of playing timeAs far as 'excitement level' I think there's not a lot else to talk about right now. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I guess I just have a hard time believing that a guy who can't get signed off of a practice squad warrants the level of excitement this forum brings.Remember, getting signed off a PS means a team has to put you on its active roster, which makes them fairly rare events to begin with. As for the "level of excitement" around here, hey, no one had said boo about Eric in months -- until Hobson whipped up one of his patented "the next savior is already on the team" pieces. Expect similar opuses (opi?) about Nicholson, Rucker, Brazell and all our draft picks.No doubt. This is as much Hobson's fault as anyone's. But hey... he's got the same number of things to talk about as we do right now... so he's digging.I guess my main issue is that neither he, nor Nicholson, nor Rucker, nor Brazell are going to be "savior's" of anything. As Hair mentioned... the bottom of the roster always churns. We need to view this as a "bottom of the roster" situation. If he gets some playing time... great. He certainly had a good enough college career to warrant giving the guy a chance to prove himself. But I'll be very surprised if he takes a significant role other than "Special Teamer." He has will be learning a new position while guys like Jeanty and Brooks will be competing for the starter role. It seems unrealistic to imagine him playing as a SSLB for any other reason than injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 neither he, nor Nicholson, nor Rucker, nor Brazell are going to be "savior's" of anything.Frostee the Slowman Rucker will be lucky to make the practice squad this yearback to EH.....The 4.75 40 time quoted earlier was taken at a weight of 270 pounds, when he intended to play DE. I would expect his 40 time to be in the mid to low 4.6's at the lower weight, and that is a respectable time for his size. Please also note his production at GT was better (despite time off for injuries) than Mario Williams - you know, his teammate who went number 1 in the draft.Please also note he also did 30 reps of 225lbs......this is VERY good for a DT and EXCELLENT for a linebacker.http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=10859Eric himself makes the point in the article that his position at GT was somewhat of a hybrid between DE and LB, so he feels the switch will not be as difficult as one might normally imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoDeyForever Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Can't wait to see this guy play..He was a beast at Georgia Tech..I got high hopes for him and lets hope that what Shaun Smith said turns out to be true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Frostee the Slowman Rucker will be lucky to make the practice squad this year Wanna bet? Or should I assume that you're just saying outrageously stupid things because you've got a reputation to maintain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Nah....undersized defensive ends who clock a 5.08 40 at the combine generally aren't fast enough to play in the NFLMost NFL teams are capable of recognizing this and saying "you know, maybe we shouldn't devote a draft pick, particularly a first day pick, to this player. Maybe, just maybe, a phenomenally slow player might be available as a UDCFA." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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