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  1. 1 hour ago, ShulaSteakhouse said:

    It's definitely a deeper/tougher rebuild than Marvin had, and is why I didn't think Taylor was a good fit here

    Probably especially when you saddle the new coaching with all the old coaching staff’s players.   Then stand pat the first year. 
     

    Marvin inherited an underachieving roster with a couple pro bowlers or soon to be pro bowlers.

    Then in 2003 and 2004 they signed a bunch of former 1st/2nd round draft picks from other teams.

    The front office simply has not done a good job for the new staff when compared to Marvin’s first 2 years. 

     

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  2. The need OL and speed at WR.   
     

    They aren’t going far until both are fixed. 
     

    Very hard to run an offense week in and week out for 16 games absolutely needing your QB to throw in 2.5 seconds and needing 10/12 play drives. 

    The last two games Burrow started it was 6/7 in coverage jammed in 20 yard space.

     


  3. Everyone pays attention to QB scouting more.    In 2019 Zac showed up to Oklahoma pro day and everyone thought "Kyler Murray",  later that draft it was rumored the Bengals were trying to trade up to select Cody Ford.

    Last year there was late speculation that Herbert was in play for the Bengals.   They were confirmed at the Oregon vs. Arizona game. I can't find anything saying they were at the Rose Bowl last year.  Oregon was one of the few schools to hold a pro day and the Bengals were there.    Oregon has a bunch of OL working out that day (not sure if Sewell did).    However it's easy to talk to position coaches etc.

    I'm sure they already got a decent report on Sewell already.    I would say the same for Leatherwood considering they spent a lot of time scouting Williams.

     


  4. on the 0-line.   It's basically Jonah Williams and a bunch of late round drafted or UDFAs.   The exception being Jordan.

    When All-Pro and Pro Bowl teams are awarded no one will be claiming any of our O-line has been robbed.  

    With the exception of Williams there is a good chance multiple draft OL prospects from this class will grade out better than what they have entering the draft.   

    The worry part is if you read prior Bengals.com reports they have stood by this same group that hasn't delivered.   Spain removing Jordan (vs. Giants) is very worrisome.   So do they have an accurate read on these guys or not? Probably not.  Are they going to go against their initial scouting thoughts?    The talk of Spain is also worrisome because he's clearly an upgrade but still closer to a journeyman vs. All-Pro.

    They need at least one more guy and probably two along with Williams that people can legitimately argue can be future All-Pros.   It's possible to find these guys later in the draft but it's unlikely.   It's becoming harder to find those guys in the first round.

    So if Sewell has the grade that matches his hype, it's hard to pass up, IMO.   However,  it's a deep class and they need everywhere. 


  5. Way too early to get worked up about what Hobson says.  He's got 3 month of draft talk staring him in the face.     He was saying "trade down" last year and entertaining Dalton return as starter.   Year before he was entertaining DTs and LBs and the name Jonah Williams was absent from his early "Hobson Choice" whenever he talked about OTs.  Pimping Jawann Taylor.

    In both those cases after the draft it was clear Burrow and Williams were the top targets and it was determined early in the process.   In the case of Williams they pimped LB so hard that most people still think and the Steelers clearly thought they had to trade up to steal Bush from us. 

    Hobson isn't giving you anything accurate, he's got to do something to entertain draft talk for 3 months.

    Lap is the only guy that shown accuracy in projecting the first round pick and that usually comes a week or two before.    Although last year it was a bad kept secret the Taylor loved Burrow and that was leaked via the Nebraska ties between the two families.

     

     


  6. 26 minutes ago, HoosierCat said:

    Yeah, Randy can sit. And you may as well put anyone you’re interested in on defense in more and see what you have. On offense tho I’m not sure how that approach works out just because it’s toothless without Burrow. Not sure what you’re going to learn there, everyone is more or less doomed to look bad.

    Mixon being out complicates it as well. 

    You'd like to see next year's candidates for line jobs block for Mixon to see the timing etc.

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  7. 5 minutes ago, HoosierCat said:

    I honestly don’t know what you do now. The team is broken. Their whole identity was wrapped up in one guy, Burrow, and now that he’s gone...I mean, they may as well have everyone “test positive” for COVID and just shut it down for the season.

    i do have to give them credit for a few sparks in the Giants game. The special teamers fought hard all game and were the biggest reason things were close. The defense made a couple plays (and gave up a couple, sadly). But the offense is just inert.

    Simple there's probably 10 guys that are getting snaps that they should know are on the bubble for next year's roster or getting those snaps next year.     Go ahead and take those snaps away and give them to the guy next in line.  It's a low risk deal because if the entrenched starter goes blabbing to Elise Jesse (which is happening),  cut them and they'll end up fodder on the next roster they are on anyway.

    Easy examples are Hart.   He's a low tier starting RT in this league.  He'll probably be your starter opening day TC.   They don't need to see anymore.  Start Fred or Hakeem and see if it's possible to replace Hart.

    Jordan/Redmond same thing. 

    Do we need to see Fat Randy kick anymore?  Nope he is what he is.

     

     


  8. The Bengals go out and sign Spain.   A multi year starter that had to sign 1 year FA deal and then was benched after an 3 yr extension.    

    He comes in here with very little practice and plays RG, RT, and LG.   Easily playing at a level equal or better than the previous starter.

    It's an improvement over the 1st year when Jerry and Smith come in off the street and improve the spots.

    That story repeats itself up and down this roster.      You can fire a coaching staff all you want, BUT if the next coaching staff has to deal with this reality it's just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic


  9. If you can get Willie Anderson AND Ray Lewis you pass on Ogden. 
     

    But of course staying put and grabbing Ogden isn’t a wrong  move either

    You could unite Williams and Leatherwood AND Burrow with Chase.

     

    Last draft it was predictable that Herbert would be awesome.  He is and in theory could have had extra picks. 

    They need a bunch of players.   



     

     


  10. Leatherwood is generally considered a “safe” player to take.     He rarely gets beat the knock on him is that he doesn’t have the crushing blocks on film you expect given his natural talent level. 
     

    Leatherwood is in the same mode as Jonah Williams, obviously the Alabama link but like Williams he has been the No. 1 tackle of his class since high school which includes some already 1st NFL picks.  
     

    So there’s something to say about a kid that’s delivered on high expectations. 
     

    But there is also Alabama to worry about because a lot of their players need an “off” year it seems to recover from the grind that is Alabama. 
     

     


  11. 9 hours ago, ShulaSteakhouse said:

    I think every 1st round pick since 2015 have missed most or all of their rookie seasons here? (or at least 6 games or more) 

    Then there was Dre Kirk and the Andre Smith injuries prior to that.

    I really don't know what to make of it any more.  

     

    Just a good example of how meaningless stats can be manipulated to fit a narrative.

    Billy Price?  Yeah he may have missed games with an injury but that was clearly a situation that he was over matched and the guy behind him was clearly better.   So yeah, your hurt, go heal yourself.   Might have been different if he was actually good.

    Ross similar thing.  Marvin didn't want the pick he wanted OJ Howard.  So yeah, Ross sit over there until your healthy and just sit there.  Probably would have been different as rookie IF Marvin was on board.

    Ced - they drafted him knowing he'd be PUP

    Dre - They had every former first round CB playing very well.  He got hurt but wasn't going to be counted on as a rookie or even really a 2nd year player.

    Jackson, Williams, Burrow,  were kicks in the nuts for sure. 


  12. This Dr. Chao on Fox Sports thinks the talk of Burrow sitting out 2021 and wait for 2022 is a gross over reaction.

    He said many times with an ACL tear there additional damage and people are over reacting to the news of the MCL,  not all that uncommon.  Not all that more complicated.   Basically repairing ACL and letting MCL heal.

    Remains confident that he'll be back for 2021, BUT of course he'll be stronger through out 2021.    Wouldn't rule out starting week 1.

    Not Wentz.   Not Bridgewater.

     

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