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Posts posted by gregcook68

  1. On 8/20/2021 at 11:33 PM, ShulaSteakhouse said:

    If Sample and Ossai are the biggest pre-season injuries (neither season-ending or even close) then I'll take it.  You can usually count on a starting player getting hurt for alll or most of the year every preseason/camp.  

    Goodnight Ossai.  Here we go!

  2. 7 hours ago, ShulaSteakhouse said:

    I would hope McCarthy enters the conversation at some point, but, am kind of doubting it, not sure why he'd want to submit himself to the ownership here when he could find a better situation elsewhere.  

    Actually Mike and McCarthy are pretty tight!  Here they are several years ago!


  3. 24 minutes ago, volcom69 said:

    So Marvin is now gone, but Mike Brown still runs this team, so is there really hope for this team?

    NO!  Not unless he is willing to stay in his office and let the new HC bring his own people in and run the show.

    I don't see it happening.

    It's already worked in Cincinnati with Marge Scott with the Reds and she got a WS championship out of it

  4. 4 hours ago, AMPHAR said:

    Paul never qualified for the playoffs 12 times.   It was 7 appearances and 12 games.   It's only 12 because of Forrest Greg and Sam.   Paul never won a playoff game as coach of the Bengals. 

    Paul only had 1 back to back playoff appearance. 

    Paul also brought back Sam after 2 seasons of missing playoffs prior to winning the AFC Champ. 

    The only difference between Paul and Mike is Paul's loyalty got him playoff victories.  Where as Mike's has limited him to regular season success. 

    But Paul also sent Bill Walsh on a path to San Fran.  Which cost him dearly. 


    If Sam would have squandered 1988 like he did 86,87,89, and 91 he should be viewed as solely responsible because he had the talent.

    Marvin has had the talent. Players and coaches. 

    Mike Brown is hardly to blame except keeping Marvin which probably more of a Katie influence. 



    Paul and Mike Brown have final say so as ANY owner does.  He approves staff and player selection.  Nothing changes as long as he is at the helm.  I got a whole lot of other much more important priorities to attend to then football, BUT if things stay status quo, I'll stop by at the end of next year after all the frustration and anger is vented with a smiley face to lift everyone up and a promise not to say, "I told you so"!! :grin:

  5. 6 minutes ago, ArmyBengal said:

    So we still haven't won a Super Bowl regardless of the owner right  ??
    Outside of playoff wins, there really hasn't been much difference.

    Paul Brown is certainly a football icon, but he didn't win sh*t here either.
    Maybe Katie can change that once she's fully in charge.

    No wait, I'm confused.  I thought you were one of the ones Army, that was all about playoff wins regardless of whether they win the last one or not???

    My bad.  I had you confused with someone else.

    I have already given up on the idea that this team will lift a Lombardi as long as Brown has the final word.

    Maybe Katie is the answer! Marge Schott won a championship in this town!

    For the last 6 years, (2011-2015) it has been nice to watch them knowing each and every week they have a good chance to win.  The wheels kind of fell off this year, but they were due.

    If you're watching based upon Lombardi dreams, you better find another hobby!

    From the lips of Aaron Rodgers .... "RELAX"!


  6. 15 minutes ago, ArmyBengal said:

    It's certainly hard for us fans to really determine what the hell is going on.

    I personally don't think Mike Brown has that much to do with it anymore.
    Outside of the decision to keep him around, it appears that most other things are handled by someone else.
    Drafting, contracts, etc.  He's surely not responsible for how sh*tty the coaches have been lately.
    How do we know HE'S the one calling that shot either ??  Seriously, do we know that ??

    He's just the owner so he's takes that on. 
    Don't get me wrong, i'm not giving him a pass.  Merely saying I don't think any of us truly know.

    Opinions are like assholes, but who's opinion on this board concerning the inner workings of this team is beyond a shadow of the doubt ??
    I'm thinking that answer is somewhere right around ZERO.  Why argue ??

    I've already stated my opinion and all one has to do is look at the history or the franchise:  

    1968-1990 Owner - Paul Brown - W-177, L-168, T-1.  12 playoff appearances resulting in 5 wins, 7 losses, including 2 SB appearances.

    1991-2016 Owner - Mike Brown - W-171, L-227, T-2.   7 playoff appearances resulting in 0 wins, 7 losses.

    I'm done.

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  7. 2 hours ago, AMPHAR said:

    Tobin turned down GM opportunities.   Change has happened a long time ago.      By the way Sam never won shit after the Bengals and should have been fired in 1991.   One of the worse coaching jobs ever after 1988.  

    Opinions are like assholes .... we all have at least one!!

    BTW he's got the most playoff wins in franchise history!

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  8. 20 minutes ago, ArmyBengal said:

    That's not a new narrative by any stretch.  That narrative has probably played a large part in him keeping his job for years.
    It's time to write a new narrative.  Might the new one take time to develop ??  Sure, but make the effort.
    Don't sit back and continue to do the same thing expecting different results.

    What part of no playoffs victories in his 14 year tenure do people not understand ??
    What other team gives and what other coach has gotten that kind of leeway ??

    "Don't know what you've got 'til it's gone" ??  Yes we will.  It's called zero playoff victories.
    How could THIS organization lose sight of that particular fact ??

    Thing is, I don't know any fan that isn't appreciative of what Marvin has done in turning around this franchise.
    It's just time to do, or at least try to do, something different.

    Which goes right back to the first OP!!  The article mentioned Wyche leaving, he left because Brown fired him!!!

    So many football minds here and it can't be seen that the elephant in the room is Mike Brown!!  

    1.  He's NOT going to fire Marvin. Marvin will decide when Marvin leaves.

    2.  He's NOT going to give control over to his HC.  He's already proven that he's not interested in the fireball coaches which is, reading between the lines, part of the reason why Wyche got fired.

    3.  NOTHING changes until he passes the baton. We can sit here and try to divert the blame away, but things will remain the same.

    4.  Lastly, his father was a different breed.  When he passed the baton to Mike, things went south as far as the Lombardi goes.  Yes Marvin is a great man, and a good DC and probably would make an excellent GM, but he lacks what it takes to take his team to the next level.  Period!!

    The Reds finally figured that out with Dusty Baker.

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  9. 6 hours ago, AMPHAR said:

    Marvin Lewis owns his failures.    He is a capable NFL coach that choked in the playoffs with a ton of talent.   

    Mike Brown's current failure in this era is sticking with him.

    Marty Schotenheimer doesn't get a pass of blaming ownership and neither should Marvin. 


    and don't look now but Gruden is doing a hell of a job in Washington DC. 


    Marvin isn't blaming anybody that I know of.  Marvin only started here in 2003.  Mike Brown fired the coach that could have taken this franchise to the Lombardi and hasn't been able to put together a credible staff since the day he took ownership in 1991!

    Skirt around all the issues you want, but you need to make up your minds.  Do you want a nice guy who cares about his team and players and their lives off the football field and 'modernized' his team in so so many ways but couldn't win even a playoff game if his life depended on it, or do you want an owner, like Robert Kraft, who could care less about anything but winning with 4 Lombardis, willing to fire players on the spot that can't produce?

    Oh yes, one other thing, it's been said in here for the last 6 years that this franchise will never win a thing with Howdy Doody at the helm, so there's that too!!!





  10. 3 minutes ago, Stripes said:

    I think that if Marvin had asked for a significant change, he'd have gotten his way.  He is a very conservative coach, and that might be why he gets on well with a very conservative owning family.  Heck, we just saw an example of the defensive coordinator wanting to light fires under people's asses only to be undercut by a head coach too timid to put starters on the bench.

    3 Sidebars:  1. I saw a post where Mike Brown went bonkers because 15 hot dogs were given away to hungry vendors!!

                        2. Glad to hear Green will make it back for no other reason to get the 36 yards he needs to hit 1000 for his first 6 years tying Ross and with a chance to do 7.

                        3. Marvin Lewis is a good man and a good DC, just not a good HC.

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  11. Too busy in my life to let football get out of it's proper order spending too much time beyond watching the games, but the problem with this franchise is real simple, actually.

    There is only one constant with this franchise since 1991, the year he took over, Mike Brown.

    Coincidentally, they have not won a playoff game since then, let alone made a SB appearance.

    Coaches and players have come and gone and the only coach that may have made a difference was fired by Brown the year he was handed the baton. (Sam Wyche)

    Nothing will change until he passes the baton on to someone else, and even then, it's no guarantee depending on who ends up with the baton!

    Pick apart and analyze all you want until the cows come home, but it is, what it is!

    No 'fix' until/when he steps down!

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  12. For me, reading between the lines, I think, consciously or subconsciously, fumbling away the playoff game made him rethink his focus.  I think he was convicted by it, putting more emphasis on what jitterbug dance he was going to do, and less emphasis on protecting the football.

    I like it, and for me it's refreshing to see!!  Hoping he stays healthy and has a beastly year!!


  13. 1 hour ago, HoosierCat said:

    This is just flat-out sad. Eifert, Kroft, Alford again, now LaFell. And as mentioned Sanu and Jones are gone. I would not want to be a pass-catcher on the Bengals this year, there's a curse or something.

    I'm with Willy on the Ogbuehi toe injury. Last thing you want for a big guy like that is any kind of flat tire. Throw in that the guy is still raw and rusty after a year's layoff and I think we should all be saying a prayer for Whit's good health.

    Of all the injuries, Eifert, Dennard and Alford are all the most worrisome to me because these guys are becoming repeat customers on the injury report. It's been said a million times: doesn't matter how talented a guy is if he can't stay on the field.

    Any confirmation on whether it's turf toe?  Look at how many games Green missed with that injury a couple years ago.

  14. 7 hours ago, ShulaSteakhouse said:


    McCarron isn't going anywhere btw, as long as they control him and is affordable, they'll keep him.










    First off, nobody, with potential, wants to be a backup.

    Secondly, the Bengals will not pay him what he could make on the market as a starter.

  15. Watched the whole game via Game Pass.

    1. The first team was in for the first series which ended up with a Nugent missed FG and a 3 and out for the defense with an almost sack by Atkins, a sack by Atkins, and an almost sack by Dunlap, forcing an incomplete third down pass.

    2. McCarron picked up from where he left off last year. Bengals should get a good deal for him after the season.

    3. Vigil looked as advertised. I was more impressed with him than Dawson. Vigil should see a lot of snaps, especially the first 3 games.

    4.  Cody Core looked good.

    5.  Hunt looked no better than last year.

    6.  Again, Dawson looked average at best.

    7.  Licata looked better than Wenning, who looked weak.

    I didn't notice any injuries with the exception of Hill with a possible hand injury.

  16. 11 minutes ago, redsbengalsbucks said:

    Will the firestick allow me to watch regular season games?

    No. Only DTV for season games. I tested my Roku and Firestick last night during the preseason games and the NFL app said it was updating. Will not be a happy camper if it's still updating tonight. I imagine many emails flooded NFL from last night for not already having the app ready for preseason games BEFORE last night!