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  1. 3 points
    Just dropping by to say that the Steelers are alone in last place.
  2. 2 points
    I see where the Steelers and their fans are whining about the "hit" by Burfict on Brown. Is this what the NFL has come down to? Steelers complaining about a shoulder to shoulder hit on a runner? STFU. They dish for decades and just can't take it back.
  3. 2 points
    So you're saying we're due.
  4. 2 points
    This is going to be tough for sure. Steelers will want to turn their season around and to have any chance to do that they need to win at PBS this Sunday. This is a statement game for the Bengals, pure and simple.
  5. 2 points
    Either way, the Bengals week 2 win v. Baltimore is looking more impressive each week.
  6. 2 points
    It has all the makings of a shootout, so naturally the game will end at 13-6.
  7. 1 point
    Nice piece at The Ringer today - a part of it on Dalton and the Bengals: https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/10/11/17963090/early-season-fantasy-football-trends Andy Dalton Is GoodThe strongest catalyst behind the Bengals’ surprising 4-1 start has been the renaissance from quarterback Andy Dalton, who’s playing better than we’ve seen in years. Dalton leads the NFL with three fourth-quarter comebacks and three game-winning drives, he is on pace to set a new career high in yards (4,264) and touchdowns (38), and his 7.7 yards per attempt, 65.8 completion rate, and 94.9 passer rating are all at three-year highs.That jump can be traced in part to Dalton’s improvement passing under pressure. Despite Cincy’s investments on the offensive line over the offseason, the team’s pressure rate allowed has actually increased slightly (32.7 percent this year vs. 31.3 percent last year), per Pro Football Focus. But Dalton’s been sharper in those situations, completing 48.1 percent of his passes under pressure (up from 45.2) with an 83.3 passer rating, seventh among quarterbacks per PFF. Crucially, Dalton’s taking far fewer drive-killing sacks as well. The Bengals’ signal-caller was sacked 39 times last year on 535 dropbacks, a 7.3 percent sack rate (22nd), and this year, he’s taken just nine sacks on 196 dropbacks, a 4.6 percent rate (ninth). Some of that is smart scheming by offensive coordinator Bill Lazor, who’s designed route-combinations that give Dalton simpler reads and help him get the ball out on time. But some of it is just old-fashioned quarterbacking: The soon-to-be 31-year-old vet has done an excellent job of stepping up into the pocket and delivering strikes down the field in the face of oncoming pass rushers.The emergence of wide receiver Tyler Boyd as a security blanket underneath has paid dividends, too, particularly in third- and fourth-down situations. Dalton’s leaned heavily on the third-year receiver when he needs to move the chains: From Week 2 on, Boyd ranks first in the NFL in targets on third and fourth down (16), tied with DeAndre Hopkins and Adam Thielen in first-down conversions (nine) on those downs. The combination of Boyd and A.J. Green gives Dalton a dangerous one-two punch to throw to downfield.Through five weeks, the Bengals have fielded a top-10 offense by just about every metric. Cincy’s fourth in points per game (30.6), tied for ninth in yards per play (6.0), eighth in first downs per game (23), and sixth in offensive DVOA—and they’ve done all that despite missing starting running back Joe Mixon for two games. Losing tight end Tyler Eifert for the year to a broken ankle is a blow for this team’s upside down the stretch—and some might look at Dalton’s seven picks thus far and start to worry. But context is key: One of those interceptions was a desperation Hail Mary, two were arguably on the receiver taking bad routes, and another two were on tipped balls. Dalton must prove he can rein in the turnovers, but his relatively high interception rate isn’t wildly concerning.The combination of smart scheming by Lazor, better performance under pressure from Dalton, and a more effective mix of playmakers at receiver make me a believer in Dalton and the Bengals’ skill position players. The early-season success was no fluke.
  8. 1 point
    Marvin leave the Bengals? He's the equivalent of that stinky fart that won't leave the room no matter how many doors or windows you open.
  9. 1 point
    Agreed. It's a big reason I never watch this game anymore. I need to just start blocking off from the Monday before they play and don't look at anything Bengals related until the next game after the Steelers game is done. If not, you have to deal with all the stupidity that is the Bengals vs. Steelers. I hate both of these teams when they are playing each other.
  10. 1 point
    Ssdd not surprised. Still disgusted. Another Marvin loss in a big game.
  11. 1 point
    calm down guys, it sucks we lose today but we almost did it. we are 4-2 and still in 1st place. lets move on to Chiefs and win that one.
  12. 1 point
    I am gonna go ahead and re-focus on Dalton and Van Pelt. As luck would have it, Hobson dropped a timely article this AM that picks up on what I started the thread with. Spoiler alert: it is not my imagination, Dalton has been way better under pressure this year than in the past, and it is because they have actually PRACTICED for it. Who knew? (Apparently not the previous Bengals qb coaches...): Writes Hobson: https://www.bengals.com/news/dalton-melts-the-pressure When the Bengals show it down with the Steelers Sunday at Paul Brown Stadium (1 p.m.-Cincinnati’s Channel 12), quarterback Andy Dalton has his team 4-1 while taking a page from Big Ben’s playbook.For years (14 to be exact), Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has barged his way to Canton by torturing the AFC North with big play after big play roaming out of the pocket away from pressure or literally throwing under pressure with bodies hanging on him like some horror movie. (Remember when he made like Dracula and came out of the crypt in the Wild Card Game after the Bengals’ pressure had seeming driven a stake through his heart?)But Dalton comes into Sunday, according to profootballfocus.com, as one of the best passers in the league under pressure. Never a big part of his game until quarterbacks coach Alex Van Pelt arrived this season, Dalton is tied with Tom Brady and Philip Rivers with the second most touchdown passes under pressure (five) and the seventh best passer rating in the NFL at 83.3.That comes after a season he finished 19th in passer rating (75.9) and threw just six TD passes under the gun for his career high. Dalton points to the bag of disaster drills Van Pelt brought with him from his decade-long career coaching NFL quarterbacks.“I’m glad he’s here. Good stuff,” Dalton said after Thursday’s practice.Before Van Pelt, this minister of mayhem, got into coaching he was an NFL back-up quarterback for another decade and lived the pressure. Then he went to Green Bay and helped Aaron Rodgers join Roethlisberger for a Night at the Improv in Canton one day.“Every quarterback should be able to drop back and throw a 5 route or come-back route in a clean pocket,” Van Pelt said. “Any quarterback should be able to do that. It’s when the body is under duress. That’s my approach. It’s when you have to throw off your back foot or throw when your left foot is behind your right foot and you’re all messed up down below. That’s what we try to emphasize during those individual periods.”So Van Pelt makes his quarterbacks practice the worst-looking throws this side of a middle-school game. The really great completion to Van Pelt looks more like a Beechmont Avenue fender-bench rather than an Andrew Wyeth painting 50 yards through the seascape. “A lot of awkward throws,” Dalton said. “Not being set. Not being in the same spot. Not having your feet in the right spot all the time. What we’ve been doing in practice we’ve been able to apply in a game.”Exhibit A came last Sunday against the Dolphins. Dalton’s 18-yard touchdown pass with his legs chained in the embrace of Miami defensive end Charles Harris turned the tide of the game when it came moments after the Bengals defense held on third-and-a-foot. The how-did-he-do-that frustration of the Miami defenders when they saw running back Joe Mixon haul it in was palpable and a precursor.“That was a classic,” Van Pelt said. “Free rusher. Stepped up. Ball security tucking it under his left arm pit to keep it away from the defender. Leaned into the free rusher and broke through. That’s the epitome of what we’re doing.”But Dalton’s favorite throw of the day may have come earlier in the game. They went play-action and there was more action than play from the Dolphins as they swarmed him.He moved up in the pocket and ended up no only throwing on the run, but throwing while running forward and not being able to get a thing on the ball. It was a wobbler, but a perfectly thrown wobbler to wide receiver A.J. Green working the right sideline for his longest catch of the day on a 23-yarder.“Threw it to a spot,” Dalton said. “That was one of my better throws.“It’s similar what we do in the drills. We don’t have anybody hanging on us (like the TD) and you throw it. But it helps. There were definitely no legs in that throw.”The throw to Mixon emphasized Van Pelt’s emphasis. But maybe even more indicative of his play against a swarm was his alertness in the pocket in Atlanta when he didn’t give up a strip-sack in the winning drive. “Big teaching points are you have to disconnect you upper and lower body,” Van Pelt said. “Your lower body may be in a different state, but your upper body still has to be able to throw accurately … If you practice the hard stuff, it’s easier in the game. “He’s a good athlete. He can run. I hope it’s helped him. I hoped it’s made him more comfortable.”Two years ago Van Pelt commandeered Rodgers through a season he led the league passing under pressure with a ridiculous 12 touchdowns against one interception. Dalton has two picks this year under pressure, but the concept is the same. “In practice we’d break down plays so we could use the scramble drill and the receivers would get used to reacting to him out of the pocket,” Van Pelt said. “You get about six to eight plays a game that are unscripted like that and they’re always the potential for big plays.”Exhibit B: In Carolina, chased out of the pocket against a five-man pressure, Dalton ended up having to throw across his body when he glimpsed wide receiver Tyler Boyd continuing his route across the back of the end zone for a 27-yard touchdown. Running to the left? Dalton made it look easy. “You can get big plays against pressure. A lot of times there’s not as many guys in coverage,” Dalton said. “I think it shows our offensive line is picking stuff up and our guys are playing fast.” Meanwhile, the minister of mayhem keeps drilling. “To me, that’s something you have to work on because they’re such big plays,” Van Pelt said. “You can score on them or change field position.”
  13. 1 point
    If you believe the article, the o-line is giving up MORE pressures this year, not less. But, Dalton is handling it better. Likely due to several factors: o-coordinator, qb coach, better weapons, etc. He's also been more willing to throw into tight windows. He's keeping his eyes up when he's pressured and looking for throws when he would give up on plays in previous years. I've never been a Dalton hater, but he's showing growth this year and the o-line isn't the reason why.
  14. 1 point
    I was at that game in Baltimore, glorious. I have that game on vhs somwhere. Baltimore news broadcast afterward. I used just watch that the news broadcast over and over because they were utter shock. Since that time the scales of balance have tipped towards the Bengals. I’m not sure how pff grades anymore. I caught one of their analyst try to explain how Mixon was graded poorly after producing a kick ass game. Sounded like a sliding scale against expectation. Bunch of crap.
  15. 1 point
    I think Tre Hopkins should move back to guard when Price comes back and take over Redmonds spot. Love the way Hopkins is playing
  16. 1 point
    Been saying that for years.
  17. 1 point
    I think both games are readily winnable. Chiefs tougher but steelers are not great.
  18. 1 point
    And I lost by less than a point. The fantasy gods are cruel.
  19. 1 point
    I’d like to say that doesn’t scare me, but it’d be total bullshit.
  20. 1 point
    Against the Ravens in December of 2004 they were down 26-3 and came back with 24 in the 4th quarter to win 27-26 on the road. It was a coming out game for Housh and really, for Carson. Hart, per PFF, was actually a top five rated offensive player for the Bengals on Sunday, so, if you like how PFF does the grading, he graded well.
  21. 1 point
    Actually going into the Miami game he was the best QB when facing the blitz. Get the ball out fast and early, they need there best game plan for this match up
  22. 1 point
    The Browns are a handful of plays away from being undefeated. They're no joke.
  23. 1 point
    I feel better about this game if we have John Ross back. Missing Ross and Eifert was not a small thing yesterday.
  24. 1 point
    I just don't want to see the Bengals beat themselves in this one. The Steelers are scum but "always" find a way to win, by any means necessary etc. It's that kind of toughness we've been needing to show for a long time. Play like we did in the first half last night and it's gonna be a bloodbath! Got to turn the corner, lose the fear that our players and staff have for them and beat them in our house. No doubt the officials will be looking out for hits on Ben especially so gotta play smart. That said I'd love to see Hubbard drive that bastard a few feet under the turf ;) Enjoy your week guys :)
  25. 1 point
    Yeah they are better and younger than last year. Not without their weakness or warts. Dalton has a much better command of this offense. Line is a weak spot but Pollack is running circles around Alexander’s last season performance. D-line is overrated against the run. They get pushed around too much,IMO for as good as they supposed to be. However 3 defensive scores, Boyd and Mixon are big differences from last year.
  26. 1 point
    Big test though next weekend with the Steelers, if they beat them then I'll know for sure this team is different :-)
  27. 1 point
    Burfict made a tackle, which is a penalty by rule.
  28. 1 point
    Better find some kind of adjustment at halftime or something
  29. 1 point
    AMPHAR started us off hot, but the streak has ended. I'll take this week and see what happens. I am terrified of Tevin Coleman against this defense. I have a strange feeling of confidence though despite today's defensive embarrassment. The Falcons are exactly the sort of team who would fail to capitalize. If the pass rush doesn't wait until the second half and AJ isn't out for a while, then it's very winnable. Four years ago Atlanta didn't have to deal with him (Sanu was the #1 and had a big game). I hope. Or else the season could take a sharp downturn. The upcoming schedule is ripe for a losing streak, and they're going to have to prove they're as good as they think they are to stay afloat.
  30. 1 point
    You guys clearly haven't been paying attention to drafts in the Marvin era. They're going CB. Book it now.
  31. 1 point
    The Steelers have become a sort of circus.
  32. 1 point
    My quick thoughts (I missed most of second half because my Mom fell and was taken to ER and I went to help figure that out - she's mostly fine luckily) - so I was hit and miss on events of second half:1. Generally, that is exactly the kind of game the Bengals by tradition lose - they tend to come up short in shoot-outs, and adversity like losing Eifert in the way that they lost him is something that they have to been able to overcome. That they did yesterday, felt special to me as a fan. These are the kinds of wins that can springboard a team to bigger things.2. Bill Lazor is REALLY good at his job, especially given the state of things in the NFL where the teams that are good have really creative minds calling plays and putting the foot down. Thank god they went to him last year and kept him in place. 3. That the offense held serve the last few weeks without Mixon and dealing with in-game injuries is a testament to Lazor and to Dalton who is running that team as well as at any point in his career.4. I haven't seen a qb-wr connection in this town aimed at being able to move the sticks in critical spots since Carson-TJ. The Dalton to Boyd thing is really important, as Green will always draw the heavier coverage.5. As for the defense, hopefully Burfict is over the foot issue at the end of camp and ready to go, because they dearly miss a leader to get them in the right spots and make some tackles. I suspect just having him on the field with his intensity will help the others do a better job at tackling, because the missed tackles in that scheme are killers. 6. The roughing calls really are whole ass. As are the random other calls that make no sense. Officiating is truly as bad as I can remember it ever being. I had them 2-2 after that stretch in my pre-season thoughts, and still had them getting to 11-5. That they came out of that 3-1 is huge, given how unfair I thought the initial four games were from the schedulers. Devastating to lose Eifert, but hopefully enough firepower and development from Uzomah to help cover it - and Boyd's development with Andy now huge because Eifert was his other security blanket. Getting Mixon back now should help a ton as well.
  33. 1 point
    To be honest I'm amazed they managed to tackle Jones on that last play
  34. 1 point
    I guess I have to start the Dolphins thread too.
  35. 1 point
    Superb result but O-line inefficiencies highlighted again, and even Long John Silver with his wooden leg could get a 100 yard game against our D Happy with the W and hoping things improve as the season goes on. Sad for Eifert - he's cursed.
  36. 1 point
    Great win! No idea how, but damn, fair play to Dalton et al for finding a way to win that!
  37. 1 point
    Wow - what a catch - pretty big win And no Burfict or Pac Man to screw it up.
  38. 1 point
    Sorry to hear that mate ;)
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  40. 1 point
    Finally enjoy a game to watch for first time this year, thanks to amazon prime as I dont have cable anymore.
  41. 1 point
    Must be especially hard on you, Scottishbengal, to see that our Ryan Glasgow is out for the season.
  42. 1 point
    There's also Huber, who I find interesting from that perspective as well. Born in Cincinnati, went to high school in Cincinnati, went to college in Cincinnati, and made it to the NFL in Cincinnati. Pretty cool...
  43. 1 point
    3 local high school kids on the defense now. Don’t recall that ever happening.
  44. 1 point
    You just know the "League" are sat waiting for the opportunity to stick it to the Bengals and Burfict one more time
  45. 1 point
    Burfict will be instantly better than Nickerson (who has played better than I predicted).
  46. 1 point
    I expect Burfict to concuss himself in the first quarter of his return, so I am not optimistic.
  47. 1 point
    Oh don’t get it twisted. The “Cheering for the Browns” ended immediately after the game ended last night and will not be repeated. Maybe it’s my disklike for the Jets, or maybe seeing Mayfield get his shot, but it was fun to watch when I really had no intentions of watching. Just to be clear, FUCK THE BROWNS !!!
  48. 1 point
    Cheering for the Browns? I don't understand this. Our two annual freebies are gone. We didn't need the AFC North to be any more difficult than it already was.
  49. 1 point
    I disagree with 24-20, I believe it will be 34-23
  50. 1 point
    Having had a short night to reflect (couldn't sleep, stayed up to drink in an as much ESPN and NFL network as I could since I couldn't sleep and was anticipating a happy day at work amongst all the Ravens fans...), the following:1. I absolutely will not kill them for the play selections to end the first half. I have railed for years that Marvin is too conservative there, I will not get mad at him for allowing them to try and put foot on throat. Execute better next time, but keep trying to score. That's how you get ready to win playoff games and other big games, frankly.2. The Lazor offense is a joy to watch. So creative, not just at scheming guys open, but in protecting Andy and maximizing the effectiveness of the line.3. Cool to see what Green looks like with help and someone to move him around in various sets. He is uncoverable in man in that scenario, and if they do double cover him, it makes the other weapons that much more effective.4. Uzomah looks like Eifert's replacement in real time. 5. Mixon looks like the real deal to me for sure, putting the ball and team on his back in 4th quarter for that last drive to go up eight and then to set up the clinching field goal felt right. 6. Tyler Boyd is a legit weapon. Once they start sprinkling Ross in more effectively, I see no reason for them to take their foot off the gas at any point.7. Gotta give Austin credit, that defense does look like it is trying for turnovers at all times. That's a nice change. And, while we are at it, loved the aggressiveness from Austin on the blitz call that resulted in the Williams forced fumble and recovery late in the 4th. Guenther would have had them in a shell. 8. Big kicks from Bullock again, he has earned my trust. Wish he had a bigger leg, but nice to be able to count on him when they need him.9. NO sacks allowed by the offensive line. That's quite something, considering what everyone expected and feared heading into the game...Thrilled with this start to the season. Just huge. It was fun to watch the national narrative shift in real time last night...