[Spor_tees]

gregstephens, on Oct 20 2008, 11:26 AM, said:

Spor_tees, on Oct 20 2008, 11:23 AM, said:

gregstephens, on Oct 20 2008, 11:18 AM, said:

By the way--head count here. How many of us thought Geathers' hit on Trent Green in that Kansas game a couple seasons back was a dirty hit? Same type of hit. Cost Green the season and, should have, his career. What? Green slid into that? Same flow-of-the-game hit as yesterday.

A helmet to helmet hit when you are already launched into the air and a guy decides to slide is totally different then blocking another guy while leading with the crown of your helmet. I have seen many guys make a block like the one the Ward did, and most of them blocked the guy below the shoulder pads without leading with their helmet and got the same pancake block result. There was absolutely no reason for Ward to lead with the crown of his helmet into Rivers helmet. I am guessing it will be a $15,000 fine or more.

Friendly wager here. I'll bet on no fine. You bet on 15,000-plus. Loser has to post on here bowing to the superior intellect and football knowledge of the other. If we both lose and there is a fine under 15 grand, we both get to post how the Steelers are always protected by the Commish and the Bengals always get screwed, which doesn't really have anything to do with the fine, but will be fun nonetheless.

Fine with me...*pun intended. :lol:

I kind of agree with Hotboy that this team must not have any chemistry, otherwise someone would have stepped up and taken a good lick on one of Pittsburgh's players. It's just like in baseball when the other team beans your best player...your pitcher will either bean their best player or hit the pitcher. They should have picked the spot and in the game right for it and got some payback...this team has no heart, leadership, or chemistry...bottom line, 0-7.

[Instigator]

Spor_tees, on Oct 20 2008, 11:33 AM, said:

gregstephens, on Oct 20 2008, 11:26 AM, said:

Spor_tees, on Oct 20 2008, 11:23 AM, said:

gregstephens, on Oct 20 2008, 11:18 AM, said:

By the way--head count here. How many of us thought Geathers' hit on Trent Green in that Kansas game a couple seasons back was a dirty hit? Same type of hit. Cost Green the season and, should have, his career. What? Green slid into that? Same flow-of-the-game hit as yesterday.

A helmet to helmet hit when you are already launched into the air and a guy decides to slide is totally different then blocking another guy while leading with the crown of your helmet. I have seen many guys make a block like the one the Ward did, and most of them blocked the guy below the shoulder pads without leading with their helmet and got the same pancake block result. There was absolutely no reason for Ward to lead with the crown of his helmet into Rivers helmet. I am guessing it will be a $15,000 fine or more.

Friendly wager here. I'll bet on no fine. You bet on 15,000-plus. Loser has to post on here bowing to the superior intellect and football knowledge of the other. If we both lose and there is a fine under 15 grand, we both get to post how the Steelers are always protected by the Commish and the Bengals always get screwed, which doesn't really have anything to do with the fine, but will be fun nonetheless.

Fine with me...*pun intended. :lol:

I kind of agree with Hotboy that this team must not have any chemistry, otherwise someone would have stepped up and taken a good lick on one of Pittsburgh's players. It's just like in baseball when the other team beans your best player...your pitcher will either bean their best player or hit the pitcher. They should have picked the spot and in the game right for it and got some payback...this team has no heart, leadership, or chemistry...bottom line, 0-7.

Oh absolutely. Clean hit, dirty hit, doesn't matter for that discussion. Ndukwe talking about the hit AFTER the fact doesn't mean jack. Marvin should have put in our third string LB on the next play with one instruction--'Put him out. We'll pay your fine.' If Ward had gotten slugged on that series, the fans would have seen the fire and physicality we've been demanding all season. Instead--nope. All talk and no walk.

[Pidge]

Frankly I'd like all our D to be trying to hit the opposotion as hard as they can, legally, every f**king play. Not as payback but as a matter of course. Hit 'em hard and if they're made of glass, that's their look out.

Make the whiney bitch Ward actually think twice about bringing his tough-guy midget act across the middle. Every receiver and RB and TE on every other team too.

[icehole3]

I think Hair is more likely to get fined than Wines Hard will.

[Instigator]

icehole3, on Oct 20 2008, 01:52 PM, said:

I think Hair is more likely to get fined than Wines Hard will.

Now THAT'S clearly helmet-to-helmet. And the best part is...Hair came out on the short end on that one.

[JungleD]

I can't see them fining him. That was just a great blind side hit, Im used to seeing those on special teams though, not on defence...

[Kazkal]

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/kazkal/wardriversblock.jpg

Does his helmet have to be so low to make a block?

[Pidge]

Probably not but single still frame shots do nothing of any relevance. The game is played at a very high speed and it easy to see fault in probably more than 50% of hits/tackles/whatever if you're looking for it.

This crap has to stop or before you know it, it'll be 20 yrs later and this game will make soccer look like flaming sword ninja boxing.

People get hurt playing football due to the very nature of the game.

[cincy9275]

hines ward lead with his helmet, that is a big no no. the play had already passed by hines and rivers, there was no need for that block. unless you are trying to hurt someone period! if any member of this team had any balls what so ever. they would have busted hines ass for that. if i was on the bengals that would have been hines last football game ever! now don't get me wrong i am not out for hurting anyone. but if you are that kind of player that just waits to catch someone off guard and tries to hurt them, then you get what you deserve! trust me i would have kimoed hines and ended his career then stood over him and laughed as i spit in his face! you hurt one of my teammates or friends your ass is grass plain and simple a eye for a eye! sorry to be that way that is just how i see it.

[BengalPimp]

Kazkal, on Oct 19 2008, 04:31 PM, said:

Pidge, on Oct 19 2008, 05:58 PM, said:

Got proper f**ked then. At least he'll be spared the last ten beatings of the season. Rest up and look forward to your second season as a Bengal Keith.

Rather sparing him 10 more loss's I'd rather see him getting experience and staying in football shape <which I doubt he'll pull odell cause dude just is ripped vs odell who always looked out of shape.

No doubt, the experience he would have gained this year, would have made him even better. You could see his improvement from game to game.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

OK, next Pitt game there needs to be a bounty on Ward or everybody on the Bengals has a ***damn vagina.

Put. Him. Out.

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DC_Bengals_Fan, on Oct 20 2008, 08:04 PM, said:

OK, next Pitt game there needs to be a bounty on Ward or everybody on the Bengals has a ***damn vagina.

Put. Him. Out.

See...that's the problem with this team. It shouldn't be 'next Pitt game'. The very next play somebody should have taken his butt out. If this team had any fire and cared, they would have. Next Pitt game is when? Four weeks? Six? Too late then.

[Instigator]

cincy9275, on Oct 20 2008, 05:43 PM, said:

hines ward lead with his helmet, that is a big no no. the play had already passed by hines and rivers, there was no need for that block. unless you are trying to hurt someone period! if any member of this team had any balls what so ever. they would have busted hines ass for that. if i was on the bengals that would have been hines last football game ever! now don't get me wrong i am not out for hurting anyone. but if you are that kind of player that just waits to catch someone off guard and tries to hurt them, then you get what you deserve! trust me i would have kimoed hines and ended his career then stood over him and laughed as i spit in his face! you hurt one of my teammates or friends your ass is grass plain and simple a eye for a eye! sorry to be that way that is just how i see it.

Ok, if you are going to throw a flying shoulder at someone, how do you not also throw your head into it from that angle? Don't get me wrong. If they fine him and suspend him for a game, a season, a lifetime, won't hurt my feelings. I don't think he actually meant to pop him in the face and do that damage, though. He probably meant to get a good flying hit and send a message, but I don't think he could have foreseen breaking a jaw in two places with that hit.

[Ron Mexico]

gregstephens, on Oct 20 2008, 08:59 PM, said:

cincy9275, on Oct 20 2008, 05:43 PM, said:

hines ward lead with his helmet, that is a big no no. the play had already passed by hines and rivers, there was no need for that block. unless you are trying to hurt someone period! if any member of this team had any balls what so ever. they would have busted hines ass for that. if i was on the bengals that would have been hines last football game ever! now don't get me wrong i am not out for hurting anyone. but if you are that kind of player that just waits to catch someone off guard and tries to hurt them, then you get what you deserve! trust me i would have kimoed hines and ended his career then stood over him and laughed as i spit in his face! you hurt one of my teammates or friends your ass is grass plain and simple a eye for a eye! sorry to be that way that is just how i see it.

Ok, if you are going to throw a flying shoulder at someone, how do you not also throw your head into it from that angle? Don't get me wrong. If they fine him and suspend him for a game, a season, a lifetime, won't hurt my feelings. I don't think he actually meant to pop him in the face and do that damage, though. He probably meant to get a good flying hit and send a message, but I don't think he could have foreseen breaking a jaw in two places with that hit.

Well, what's his name that put Boldin out didn't mean to take Boldin out either. Someone hit him from behind and knocked Boldin's head into his. He got a 50000 dollar fine and a one-game suspension. Whether or not Ward meant to hit Rivers with his helmet, he did it. Rivers didn't break his jaw hitting the ground. Ward hit Rivers' jaw with his helmet and therefore I think he not only gets fined, but also suspended. And he's gonna cry about it, and so will Tomlin. It'll be interesting to see what Palomalu has to say now that he got a concussion from helmet to helmet. Will he sing the same tune he did last week?

[Instigator]

Ickey44, on Oct 20 2008, 09:06 PM, said:

gregstephens, on Oct 20 2008, 08:59 PM, said:

cincy9275, on Oct 20 2008, 05:43 PM, said:

hines ward lead with his helmet, that is a big no no. the play had already passed by hines and rivers, there was no need for that block. unless you are trying to hurt someone period! if any member of this team had any balls what so ever. they would have busted hines ass for that. if i was on the bengals that would have been hines last football game ever! now don't get me wrong i am not out for hurting anyone. but if you are that kind of player that just waits to catch someone off guard and tries to hurt them, then you get what you deserve! trust me i would have kimoed hines and ended his career then stood over him and laughed as i spit in his face! you hurt one of my teammates or friends your ass is grass plain and simple a eye for a eye! sorry to be that way that is just how i see it.

Ok, if you are going to throw a flying shoulder at someone, how do you not also throw your head into it from that angle? Don't get me wrong. If they fine him and suspend him for a game, a season, a lifetime, won't hurt my feelings. I don't think he actually meant to pop him in the face and do that damage, though. He probably meant to get a good flying hit and send a message, but I don't think he could have foreseen breaking a jaw in two places with that hit.

Well, what's his name that put Boldin out didn't mean to take Boldin out either. Someone hit him from behind and knocked Boldin's head into his. He got a 50000 dollar fine and a one-game suspension. Whether or not Ward meant to hit Rivers with his helmet, he did it. Rivers didn't break his jaw hitting the ground. Ward hit Rivers' jaw with his helmet and therefore I think he not only gets fined, but also suspended. And he's gonna cry about it, and so will Tomlin. It'll be interesting to see what Palomalu has to say now that he got a concussion from helmet to helmet. Will he sing the same tune he did last week?

Troy can't gripe...he's the one the clearly led with his helmet. He just lost the battle.

[Kazkal]

Would be funny if Troy got a fine for injuring himself.

[Ron Mexico]

gregstephens, on Oct 20 2008, 09:13 PM, said:

Ickey44, on Oct 20 2008, 09:06 PM, said:

gregstephens, on Oct 20 2008, 08:59 PM, said:

cincy9275, on Oct 20 2008, 05:43 PM, said:

hines ward lead with his helmet, that is a big no no. the play had already passed by hines and rivers, there was no need for that block. unless you are trying to hurt someone period! if any member of this team had any balls what so ever. they would have busted hines ass for that. if i was on the bengals that would have been hines last football game ever! now don't get me wrong i am not out for hurting anyone. but if you are that kind of player that just waits to catch someone off guard and tries to hurt them, then you get what you deserve! trust me i would have kimoed hines and ended his career then stood over him and laughed as i spit in his face! you hurt one of my teammates or friends your ass is grass plain and simple a eye for a eye! sorry to be that way that is just how i see it.

Ok, if you are going to throw a flying shoulder at someone, how do you not also throw your head into it from that angle? Don't get me wrong. If they fine him and suspend him for a game, a season, a lifetime, won't hurt my feelings. I don't think he actually meant to pop him in the face and do that damage, though. He probably meant to get a good flying hit and send a message, but I don't think he could have foreseen breaking a jaw in two places with that hit.

Well, what's his name that put Boldin out didn't mean to take Boldin out either. Someone hit him from behind and knocked Boldin's head into his. He got a 50000 dollar fine and a one-game suspension. Whether or not Ward meant to hit Rivers with his helmet, he did it. Rivers didn't break his jaw hitting the ground. Ward hit Rivers' jaw with his helmet and therefore I think he not only gets fined, but also suspended. And he's gonna cry about it, and so will Tomlin. It'll be interesting to see what Palomalu has to say now that he got a concussion from helmet to helmet. Will he sing the same tune he did last week?

Troy can't gripe...he's the one the clearly led with his helmet. He just lost the battle.

Well last week he said they shouldn't be fining players and were trying to make this a panzy league, and then he went and got a concussion. So I just wonder if he'll change his tune or not.

[Jet23]

I could give a rat's if the hit was clean or not. Somebody should have taken his punk ass out! That play right there epitomizes the difference between the two franchises. A wr decks one of our few NFL caliber players on defense and all they can do is spout off about what they are going to do next time. Whatever. All the guys that were talking tough after the game walked right past Ward and didn't say d!ck! It makes me sick to my stomach to watch the Squeelers roll into Cincinnati and laugh right in their faces yet again. What a bunch of soft women. I'm in sports hell.

[Bnglsboi8532]

cincy9275, on Oct 20 2008, 05:43 PM, said:

hines ward lead with his helmet, that is a big no no. the play had already passed by hines and rivers, there was no need for that block. unless you are trying to hurt someone period! if any member of this team had any balls what so ever. they would have busted hines ass for that. if i was on the bengals that would have been hines last football game ever! now don't get me wrong i am not out for hurting anyone. but if you are that kind of player that just waits to catch someone off guard and tries to hurt them, then you get what you deserve! trust me i would have kimoed hines and ended his career then stood over him and laughed as i spit in his face! you hurt one of my teammates or friends your ass is grass plain and simple a eye for a eye! sorry to be that way that is just how i see it.

U just became my best friend! :bengal:

[ArmyBengal]

Do I think the hit was dirty ?? Hard to say with the speed of the game, but you can clearly see him lowering his head to lay the blow. Why do you need to lower your head ?? Serves no other purpose than to hurt another player. He could have just as easily taken Rivers out of the play with a shoulder hit. Just how I see it...

I agree with Greg on this as well. This team has a soft label to start and when the other teams WR takes out your starting MLB with NO reaction from your team mates speaks volumes to just how soft they really are. It's sad to see people react after the fact with words. Give me a f*cking break already. Stop talking about it and go f*cking hit someone !!!

I like how the Ravens are talking about having a bounty out on Ward for the hit he laid on Scott last season. It's illegal as hell, but they don't care and continue to talk about kicking his ass. That's how you do it. The Bengals ?? They talk about how much they respect the guy. Unf*ckingbelievable !!!