[The UnderDawg]

So I saw an article about how this guy wasn't attending workouts, and has been pretty pissed since losing his job. Is this correct? Do you think Cincy will part with him? Is there any other info about him out there? What do you think of him, ect.

I only ask this because we're going to be needing more CB's when some are cut in training camp.

[HoosierCat]

It's not likely O'Neal is going anywhere this year. He's been "disgruntled" since 2005, when he had a bunch of picks and didn't get a new deal out of them. He skipped the voluntaries last year, same old same old this year. Mandatories? He's there. This is his last year anyhow, he's a UFA in 2009. You're welcome to him.

BTW thanks for getting rid of Leigh Bodden. Guy was an absolute Chad-killer.

[redsbengalsbucks]

The UnderDawg, on Jul 1 2008, 10:09 PM, said:

So I saw an article about how this guy wasn't attending workouts, and has been pretty pissed since losing his job. Is this correct? Do you think Cincy will part with him? Is there any other info about him out there? What do you think of him, ect.

I only ask this because we're going to be needing more CB's when some are cut in training camp.

A CB would have to be pretty bad to get cut from the Browns this season.

[Gizzle]

redsbengalsbucks, on Jul 2 2008, 06:48 AM, said:

The UnderDawg, on Jul 1 2008, 10:09 PM, said:

So I saw an article about how this guy wasn't attending workouts, and has been pretty pissed since losing his job. Is this correct? Do you think Cincy will part with him? Is there any other info about him out there? What do you think of him, ect.

I only ask this because we're going to be needing more CB's when some are cut in training camp.

A CB would have to be pretty bad to get cut from the Browns this season.

I think he's saying that the Browns are thin at CB and will need to sign one once teams start cutting players during training camp.

Deltha, he's not bad. I think he still has was it takes to start somewhere but the guy is a head case. Just one of those players who thinks he's better than he really is. He could be a REALY REALY good nickel on this team.

[The UnderDawg]

^Yes, thats what Im saying. Hes currently on your roster, and I want him on our roster, lol.

@ Hoosier, everyone is a Chad killer, its not that hard. But if you think that move hurt our D you seriously need to get your head checked. Do you honestly think our D could have got any worse from last year? You can only go up from the bottom.

[CentralOhioBengal]

The UnderDawg, on Jul 2 2008, 11:12 AM, said:

@ Hoosier, everyone is a Chad killer, its not that hard.

When Chad starts clowning and talking, start clowning and talking back. And keep up a silly, friendly, chatter with him the whole game. He'll destroy you. On the other hand, when Chad tries to engage you in friendly banter, glare at him, spit at him. And knock the crap out of him every chance you get. Chad will disappear. I've watched Pittsburgh do it to him for years.

[BengalByTheBay]

The UnderDawg, on Jul 2 2008, 10:12 AM, said:

Do you honestly think our D could have got any worse from last year? You can only go up from the bottom.

You can always get worse.....you clearly forget to whom you are talking.

[Kazkal]

The UnderDawg, on Jul 2 2008, 11:12 AM, said:

You can only go up from the bottom.

Wrong you can stay at the bottom :P look at our defense for the past 3 years.

[Orange and black fanatic]

Things can always get worse.

e.g. the Dow Jones Industrial Average, my investment account balance and my wife

:o

[Orange and black fanatic]

The wife part was a joke. I know it was cheap, if funny. She is not an example of how things can get worse. THough I will admit if she were to find out about my joke things would be bad, very bad.

Thankfully my wife doesn't know about it and she never will, right bwillycuse? :cheers:

[BengalByTheBay]

Orange and black fanatic, on Jul 3 2008, 08:34 AM, said:

The wife part was a joke. I know it was cheap, if funny. She is not an example of how things can get worse. THough I will admit if she were to find out about my joke things would be bad, very bad.

Thankfully my wife doesn't know about it and she never will, right bwillycuse? :cheers:

Billy's on the phone right now.....he'll get back to you.

[JPW]

The UnderDawg, on Jul 2 2008, 11:12 AM, said:

@ Hoosier, everyone is a Chad killer, its not that hard.

Really now ?

On the other hand ...

I guess your boy "pro bowl" Braylon Edwards is flat out unstoppable ?

If it is "not that hard" to stop Chad how does he Keep Racking it Up Year after Year ?

Including an Unprecedented Four Straight AFC Yards Titles.

The only other player to have won even three straight AFC titles was Jerry Rice.

Chad has been to five straight pro bowls ...

Think before you post brownie.

The UnderDawg, on Jul 2 2008, 11:12 AM, said:

But if you think that move hurt our D you seriously need to get your head checked.

If you think that it didn't hurt your team at corner back you seriously need to get your head checked.

You can try to deny it all you want now that he is no longer with the team.

But the truth is ...

Bodden was the best corner back that the Browns have had in quite some time.

He was a big reason that they were able to upset the Bengals in their game at Cleveland last year and that win set the tone for the Browns entire season.

Well not for the entire season ...

It really only lasted up until they came to Cincinnati for their second meeting and the Bengals slapped them back to reality.

But you get my drift ...

With Bodden gone now even you would have to admit that the Browns Corner-Backs have got to be rated as Dead Last in the Division.

Yea ...

Losing Bodden is most certainly going to hurt.

The UnderDawg, on Jul 2 2008, 11:12 AM, said:

^Yes, thats what Im saying. Hes currently on your roster, and I want him on our roster

You know what ....

I have been thinking of that very thing myself, O'Neal would be a good pick up for you and would probably be the Browns number one corner.

Now let's see ...

The Browns do still have their 2009 First Round Draft Pick right ? B)

[Orange and black fanatic]

The Browns are hurting in a bad way at corner by their own doing and I agree Deltha would be their No. 1 DB if they were to get him but we all know that isn't going to happen.

He is fighting for the No. 3 spot on the Bengals and in a contract year he knows he can get a good payday if he can get a few INTs in nickle packages. Not a lot of stress on his body so teams will be willing to pony up if he shows he is capable. Right now teams probably aren't going to give up what the Bengals would demand in a trade. And never would they trade with the Browns.

Browns fans better hope their team stays ultra healthy because if injuries happen to any of their starters, it is goodnight. Even if they do, their offense is going need to score more than last year to succeed, unlikely agaist the AFC North schedule. I personally think they were a flash in the pan last year and fall to the 5-11 range this year.

[JPW]

They do have Eric (Date-Rape) Wright who has potential but that is about it.

[Instigator]

BengalByTheBay, on Jul 2 2008, 04:10 PM, said:

The UnderDawg, on Jul 2 2008, 10:12 AM, said:

Do you honestly think our D could have got any worse from last year? You can only go up from the bottom.

You can always get worse.....you clearly forget to whom you are talking.

That's kinda what I was thinking. What is he smoking asking us THAT question?

[ArmyBengal]

Deltha isn't going to get the big coin contract next year regardless. Teams don't give up the big coin for older DB's on their downside, who think they are better than they are. Can he still play ?? Yes... Is he a solid 3rd DB ?? Yes... Will he get the big dollar contract he wants next season from ANY team ?? NO...

WHODEY !!!

[Orange and black fanatic]

ArmyBengal, on Jul 3 2008, 10:13 PM, said:

Deltha isn't going to get the big coin contract next year regardless. Teams don't give up the big coin for older DB's on their downside, who think they are better than they are. Can he still play ?? Yes... Is he a solid 3rd DB ?? Yes... Will he get the big dollar contract he wants next season from ANY team ?? NO...

WHODEY !!!

All in all, you are right. I was commenting more on O'Neal's perception of his worth and circumstances than on any real world outcome.

In the end, he plays well for the Bengals this year. Then he is likely outta here.

[ArmyBengal]

Orange and black fanatic, on Jul 4 2008, 07:46 AM, said:

ArmyBengal, on Jul 3 2008, 10:13 PM, said:

Deltha isn't going to get the big coin contract next year regardless. Teams don't give up the big coin for older DB's on their downside, who think they are better than they are. Can he still play ?? Yes... Is he a solid 3rd DB ?? Yes... Will he get the big dollar contract he wants next season from ANY team ?? NO...

WHODEY !!!

All in all, you are right. I was commenting more on O'Neal's perception of his worth and circumstances than on any real world outcome.

In the end, he plays well for the Bengals this year. Then he is likely outta here.

Gotcha and I agree with you on him being done after this year unless he realizes he's not going to get paid the big dollar contract and wants to stay. That being said, we need to get younger there and should address this in the draft next year as well.

WHODEY !!!

[HAPPYJAQ]

I still thinks that O'Neal is a starting-caliber CB, if he is focused. He will most suredly be focused this year, as a player looking at the prospects of this upcoming season being his last at a big pay-day. I thought he played well last year, in his demotion. Depending on how David Jones and/or Kilmer develop, he could still be here after this year as teams are keeping 3 high paid CB's (I think the Cowboys have 5) these days.

Maybe the Bengals can trade O'Neal straight up for Adam "Don't call me Pacman, no mo" Jones.

[The UnderDawg]

JPW, on Jul 3 2008, 06:23 PM, said:

They do have Eric (Date-Rape) Wright who has potential but that is about it.

Lol, you realize half of your starting roster is currently in a county prison right now, don't you?